Some of these place are straight out death traps. Mention has been made on another thread about "Emporium". The top floor of that place where the cinemas are, is an accident waiting to happen.
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Fire kills 3 at CentralWorld in Bangkok
https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/genera ... recent_box
Three people died and seven others were injured, some after jumping from the eighth floor, when fire broke out at the CentralWorld shopping complex on Wednesday evening.
The CentralWorld management stated on its Facebook page that the fire started at about 5.40pm in a smoke ventilation duct on the eighth floor of the shopping centre, which stands adjacent to Centara Grand at CentralWorld hotel on Rama I Road, close to the Ratchaprasong intersection in Pathumwan district.
Witnesses saw two people jumping from the eighth floor. Thick black smoke was seen billowing out, and explosions were heard.
Both the hotel and the shopping centre were evacuated. Initial reports said many people were trapped in the building. The CentralWorld page said its fire fighters put out the blaze at 6.10pm, about half an hour after it started.
Bangkok governor Aswin Kwangmuang said the 16-storey building was ordered closed pending investigation into the cause of the fire and its fire suppression system.
Three killed people were staff of the shopping complex. The seven injured people were admitted at Police General Hospital and Ratchavithi Hospital for smoke inhalation.
The blaze caused heavy traffic snarl-ups in the vicinity, especially on Rama I and Ratchadamri roads, as it occurred in the evening rush hour.
Fire kills 3 at CentralWorld in Bangkok
Fire kills 3 at CentralWorld in Bangkok
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Re: Fire kills 3 at CentralWorld in Bangkok
What has always amazed me about these shopping malls in Asia is the amount of cooking that goes on with very basic equipment and gas bottles all over the place.Some of these place are straight out death traps.....
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Re: Fire kills 3 at CentralWorld in Bangkok
Compared to other countries (even Europe) cooking with city gas (no gas bottles) accidents in Thailand are very rare.
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Thailand does not supply cooking gas on a direct supply so such accidents are not only rare, they are non-existent!!!europtimiste wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:41 pmCompared to other countries (even Europe) cooking with city gas (no gas bottles) accidents in Thailand are very rare.
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And with gas bottles as in Thailand more rare than direct supply elsewhere.HHTel wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:59 pmThailand does not supply cooking gas on a direct supply so such accidents are not only rare, they are non-existent!!!europtimiste wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:41 pmCompared to other countries (even Europe) cooking with city gas (no gas bottles) accidents in Thailand are very rare.
Re: Fire kills 3 at CentralWorld in Bangkok
Not really a good comparison. Most main gas accidents in the west more often than not result in CO poisoning rather than fire/explosions. You really need to compare like with like for it to make any sense.
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Officials: Dry sediment caught fire at CentralWorld
https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/genera ... ntralworld
The fatal CentralWorld blaze on Wednesday started on the B2 basement floor of its old and possibly defective back-office building where dry sediment in a wastewater treatment facility might have caught fire, according to officials.
Experts made the assumption after inspecting the 16-storey back office of the CentralWorld shopping complex in Pathumwan district.
Teerayut Pumisak, deputy director for disaster prevention and mitigation of the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration, said the fire started on the B2 floor, an enclosed space for storage of fire-fighting pumps, a wastewater treatment facility and electric equipment.
"A material that caught fire was dry waste sediment. Fire from it could be as hot as 800 degrees Celsius," he said.
The fire sent heat and gas into three big ventilation pipes that ran upward to the eighth floor where they bent to move air out of the building. The curved pipes on the eighth floor blocked the passage of heat and smoke and were not heat-resistant. They finally collapsed and the fire and smoke spread on the eighth floor where there were lots of flammable materials such as chairs, desks and furniture, Mr Teerayut said.
Amorn Pimanmas, secretary-general of the Council of Engineers, said oil stains from cooking might also clog the vent pipes and block smoke from being emitted out of the building easily.
Pichaya Chantranuwat, secretary-general of the Engineering Institute of Thailand, said officials had yet to locate where exactly the fire started on the B2 floor. The plan of the building showed it was an old building constructed when the shopping complex was called World Trade Centre.
The ventilation pipes were not built to reach the rooftop of the building because the old building was designed that way and had some weak points, he said.
Mr Pichaya said the two men who died were heroes because they could have easily fled the eighth floor. Instead, they went inside to try to put out the fire which later blocked their exit, forcing them to jump off the floor.
The structure of the eighth floor was complicated and obstructed fire-fighting efforts, he said.
Pathumwan district chief Pinit Arayasilpatorn said the 80-sq m B2 floor and the 400-sq m eighth floor were closed while other parts of the building could be opened soon. The eighth floor was a recreation area for staff, he said.
Noppadol Chaipanya, public works director of the City Hall, said the two floors would be closed until their plans were improved.
Siriwat Chaichana, adviser to the Engineering Institute of Thailand, said the fire was extinguished quickly and the structure of the building was not affected.
The management of Central Pattana, the operator of the shopping complex, said the company would do its best to take care of the injured people and the families of the dead victims. The fire killed two people and injured 20 others.
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https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/genera ... ntralworld
The fatal CentralWorld blaze on Wednesday started on the B2 basement floor of its old and possibly defective back-office building where dry sediment in a wastewater treatment facility might have caught fire, according to officials.
Experts made the assumption after inspecting the 16-storey back office of the CentralWorld shopping complex in Pathumwan district.
Teerayut Pumisak, deputy director for disaster prevention and mitigation of the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration, said the fire started on the B2 floor, an enclosed space for storage of fire-fighting pumps, a wastewater treatment facility and electric equipment.
"A material that caught fire was dry waste sediment. Fire from it could be as hot as 800 degrees Celsius," he said.
The fire sent heat and gas into three big ventilation pipes that ran upward to the eighth floor where they bent to move air out of the building. The curved pipes on the eighth floor blocked the passage of heat and smoke and were not heat-resistant. They finally collapsed and the fire and smoke spread on the eighth floor where there were lots of flammable materials such as chairs, desks and furniture, Mr Teerayut said.
Amorn Pimanmas, secretary-general of the Council of Engineers, said oil stains from cooking might also clog the vent pipes and block smoke from being emitted out of the building easily.
Pichaya Chantranuwat, secretary-general of the Engineering Institute of Thailand, said officials had yet to locate where exactly the fire started on the B2 floor. The plan of the building showed it was an old building constructed when the shopping complex was called World Trade Centre.
The ventilation pipes were not built to reach the rooftop of the building because the old building was designed that way and had some weak points, he said.
Mr Pichaya said the two men who died were heroes because they could have easily fled the eighth floor. Instead, they went inside to try to put out the fire which later blocked their exit, forcing them to jump off the floor.
The structure of the eighth floor was complicated and obstructed fire-fighting efforts, he said.
Pathumwan district chief Pinit Arayasilpatorn said the 80-sq m B2 floor and the 400-sq m eighth floor were closed while other parts of the building could be opened soon. The eighth floor was a recreation area for staff, he said.
Noppadol Chaipanya, public works director of the City Hall, said the two floors would be closed until their plans were improved.
Siriwat Chaichana, adviser to the Engineering Institute of Thailand, said the fire was extinguished quickly and the structure of the building was not affected.
The management of Central Pattana, the operator of the shopping complex, said the company would do its best to take care of the injured people and the families of the dead victims. The fire killed two people and injured 20 others.
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This is exactly what I commented about in the OP.The structure of the eighth floor was complicated and obstructed fire-fighting efforts, he said.
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Re: Fire kills 3 at CentralWorld in Bangkok
I only took in consideration explosions due to gas and not CO poisoning.