The Wine Thread

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404cameljockey wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 7:44 am
PET wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 7:10 am I find the Mar Sol red acceptable how do you (experts) compare it with Peter Vella? I also do the fridge thing
I rarely drink wine so I'm no expert, but re Mar y Sol (sea and sun) I'd also be interested to know. I tried it long ago and think I remember it was inferior to Peter Vela, but drinkable. Price would then be the decider but no idea what anything retails at.
I have now given Peter Vela ( red) a good trial and I agree it is better than Mar Sol - thank you Colonel for your sound advice although my consumption has now increased!!
Pleasure! Did you do the fridge trick?

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thecolonel wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:00 pm
PET wrote:
404cameljockey wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 7:44 am

I rarely drink wine so I'm no expert, but re Mar y Sol (sea and sun) I'd also be interested to know. I tried it long ago and think I remember it was inferior to Peter Vela, but drinkable. Price would then be the decider but no idea what anything retails at.
I have now given Peter Vela ( red) a good trial and I agree it is better than Mar Sol - thank you Colonel for your sound advice although my consumption has now increased!!
Pleasure! Did you do the fridge trick?

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I like my wines and especially Cotes du Rhône... CJ has them on the shelve at 325 thb, I bought the lot and waiting for them to restock. My wife enjoys Charles Strong a cheap blend at 329? and Haut Lafon, 1,5 ltr. at 800 I believe...Lotus, Big C and Makro have them..
The Haut Lafon is not bad at all....
Wine prices here are a little crazy due to the luxury tax, but any APEC partner that brews wine sell at nice prices
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Martinoo wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:29 am I like my wines and especially Cotes du Rhône... CJ has them on the shelve at 325 thb, I bought the lot and waiting for them to restock. My wife enjoys Charles Strong a cheap blend at 329? and Haut Lafon, 1,5 ltr. at 800 I believe...Lotus, Big C and Makro have them..
The Haut Lafon is not bad at all....
Wine prices here are a little crazy due to the luxury tax, but any APEC partner that brews wine sell at nice prices
What (and where) is CJ?
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A 7-11 type shop, all over Hua Hin.

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Big Boy wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 7:03 pm A 7-11 type shop, all over Hua Hin.
Ah OK, thanks.
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I am primarily a red wine drinker and am always looking for a decent bottle of red wine for under 1000 baht. It has been a year since the big announcement about reducing the tax on imported wine, but based on my observations, I have not found any real reductions.

Recently, I have found myself going back and buying more bottles of a Black Shiraz – 2021 - from Berton Vineyards in Southeastern Australia. The big Lotus in Cha-Am sells it for 699 baht/per 750 ml bottle.

A side story. I went online and looked at the website of a Total Wine (TW) store in Arizona, U.S.A. that I used to shop at. The TW store sells a bottle of this Shiraz for U.S.$12.99: X 34 baht = 442 baht. I assume that the TW store does make a profit on each bottle that it sells. If you buy six bottles the price is U.S.$11.69/per bottle. I don’t know if this TW price reflects the 10% tariff that the U.S. added to Australian wine on 5 April 2025.

I understand that there are also shipping costs involved in this pricing……

On the Berton website a 2022 vintage of this Shiraz sells for AUD14.00 (300 baht).

BTW: The average consumer rating of this wine on the TW website is 3.9 out of 5.

From the TW website: Full-bodied and concentrated, this is a bold example of Australian Shiraz with aromas of blackberry, plum and vanilla. Mocha and sweet spices round out the experience and lead into a long, savory finish.
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Another completely nonsensical article in the Thai media ...

Thai Wine Tax Cut Backfires: Consumption Soars, State Loses Millions
New research reveals tax exemption on imported wine has fuelled a surge in drinking and social costs, while costing the government nearly 600 million baht annually.

A controversial tax exemption on imported wine in Thailand has led to a significant increase in consumption, particularly among high-income earners, while costing the government millions in lost revenue and imposing substantial social burdens.

A study conducted by Assis Prof Dr Mana Laksamee-arunothai and Assoc Prof Dr Chidtawan Chanakul from Kasetsart University's Faculty of Economics reveals that the policy, implemented in early 2024, reduced customs duties from 54%-60% and lowered excise tax.

This has resulted in an estimated annual revenue loss to the state of almost 600 million baht.

The research found a dramatic 300% increase in consumption of wines priced between 3,001 baht and 5,000 baht within a single year.

Overall, the value of wine imports jumped by over 10% compared to the previous year, with direct benefits primarily accruing to foreign wine producers. While cheaper wines (under 1,000 baht) saw negligible price drops, high-end wines became over 10% cheaper, boosting demand among affluent consumers.

However, the policy's social and economic costs are substantial. The study estimates the total cost stemming from increased wine consumption, including risks from accidents, domestic violence, and impacts on children and youth, at over 10.3 billion baht.

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/general/40050474

So they increase taxes on the poor to make up for losing money on discounted luxuries for the rich. :guns:

And its very unlikely that those spending 3k to 5k on a bottle of wine are going to beat their wives, ride their Honda Waves into a ditch, or abuse their hi-so children, after consuming aforementioned beverage. Where do they find these "academics"?!
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buksida wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 4:58 pm Where do they find these "academics"?![/i]
On a 12-step program I imagine. Utter nonsense.
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Just visited CJ, they have the CdR available but also a Vin de Pay D'Oc which looks interesting for 429 THB. But I was there at 10.30 :roll: :tsk:
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