Menu/food prices rising in Thailand

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STEVE G wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 9:13 pm ^Yes, and to get fully back on topic, there are some surprisingly pleasant small restaurants and cafes out near us in Hin Lek Fai where you can still eat well for reasonable money.
I'm assuming Hin Lek Fai has changed drastically since I was last there - the LHG has been since but tends to cook at "home" whilst there and travel during the day. That said, she found some great "eateries" around HLF and outside of HH centre.

Would be interesting to see the difference in pricing say from Tourist Centres (Bangkok, HH e.g.) and those just or slightly outside. Of course we did the "Touristy" bit in HH when we were first there (20 odd years ago), but we also travelled out with a hire car and stopped at "Beachside" places driving both North and South along the coast.

Must admit, I seriously miss driving along the coast and stopping off at the odd place..... :thumb:
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STEVE G wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 9:13 pm ^Yes, and to get fully back on topic, there are some surprisingly pleasant small restaurants and cafes out near us in Hin Lek Fai where you can still eat well for reasonable money.
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IMHO that statement proves the rip-off philosophy. The businesses in Hin Lek Fai are using the same suppliers as those in the more touristy part of town - why do prices differ so vastly? I've been very impressed with the food and drink prices at Esan Baan Suan. Not only are they very competetively priced, they have a huge amount of staff working there. If I can buy my fruit smoothie there for 45฿, why are some places in town charging up to 160฿? It's a bit of fruit blended with a bit of ice - some, probably with less staff overheads are charging almost 300% more for the same product.
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Big Boy wrote: Wed May 07, 2025 12:17 am IMHO that statement proves the rip-off philosophy. The businesses in Hin Lek Fai are using the same suppliers as those in the more touristy part of town - why do prices differ so vastly? I've been very impressed with the food and drink prices at Esan Baan Suan. Not only are they very competetively priced, they have a huge amount of staff working there. If I can buy my fruit smoothie there for 45฿, why are some places in town charging up to 160฿? It's a bit of fruit blended with a bit of ice - some, probably with less staff overheads are charging almost 300% more for the same product.
The massive difference in rents paid may have something to do with it - those restaurants downtown in places that expect more tourist walk-in trade are going to charge more than one setup in someone's backyard in the boonies. I haven't been to tourist restaurants in Hua Hin for decades.

The real problem is that prices are constantly going up across the board (aside from diesel which is subsidized) much higher and faster than the bullshit figures the government spouts out (coffee for example, up 40%) and much faster than people's earnings (and yes, I know this happens in other countries, but we live here.) Food and groceries are probably the most noticeable because they impact everyone, the poor more so. It doesn't help that one company controls 90% of the entire country's food supply.
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I don't disagree with the differences in rent, but when you look at the massive Esan Baan Suan plot and what must be a huge staff overhead, whilst the cost per square metre might be considerably less, I'd imagine scale of size would put Esan Baan Suan's rent as high as most other town centre establishments who charge considerably more for a product not as good.

It is simply greed, and the fact tourists can find the town centre, where as Esan Baan Suan just as well be on the surface of the Moon.
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I think your last sentence is most relevant - tourists are either within walking distance or a short taxi ride from the town centre, from there they can walk around and chose the establishment that takes their fancy - anywhere outside needs specific planning rather than the ad-hoc approach.
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.The massive difference in rents paid may have something to do with it - those restaurants downtown in places that expect more tourist walk-in trade are going to charge more than one setup in someone's backyard in the boonies. I haven't been to tourist restaurants in Hua Hin for decades.
Yes, out in Hin Lek Fai, many of the restaurants are on privately owned property and family run so the overheads are minimal.
Over the last few years quite a few of these coffee shop type cafes have appeared and some of them offer local food as well at very reasonable prices and in quite attractive surroundings. Basically they’re a step up from local noodle shops but not a great deal more expensive.
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Looks like restaurant prices will only be going one way if they're about to be taxed, most operate on very tight margins as it is, I can see a lot of closures, especially in tourist areas ...

Thai taxman aims to tighten enforcement
The Revenue Department has vowed to tighten enforcement of tax collection from four types of businesses to ensure accurate payments.

According to director-general Pinsai Suraswadi, the businesses are restaurants, nightlife establishments, cash-based trading businesses, and pharmacies.

The department is required to survey these businesses every two years, but these surveys have not been performed.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/ge ... nforcement
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All of these tax initiatives ring of desperation to me. The sugar tax was successful, so now they're going to introduce a salt tax. What next, an air tax?

hailand to introduce “Salt Tax” with tiered rates, driving health food market boom

Excise Department pushes forward with “salt tax” using tiered model, boosting the health food market

Following the implementation of the "sugar tax," which took full effect on April 1, 2025, Thailand’s Excise Department is moving ahead with plans to introduce a “salt tax.”

Officials reveal that the new tax will adopt a tiered-rate structure similar to the sugar tax. Industry observers are closely watching how this policy will impact the beverage, snack, and food sectors, where companies are already accelerating development of “low sugar” and “low sodium” products to stay competitive. Experts point out that these tax measures are set to fundamentally reshape the market landscape.

The introduction of tax rates based on sugar and sodium content is causing a major ripple in the consumer goods market—particularly affecting drinks, snacks, and instant noodles. Major producers are increasingly investing in low-sugar and low-sodium formulations to reduce future tax burdens.

The sugar tax has already been fully enforced since April 1, 2025, while the salt tax is expected to be implemented soon. These policies are propelling the healthy food sector into a rapid growth trajectory, turning it into a “Blue Ocean” opportunity.

Tiered salt tax expected soon

Kulaya Tantitemit, Director-General of the Excise Department, told Thansettakij that the department is studying the implementation of a salt tax aimed at improving public health. The tax is expected to use a tiered rate structure, just like the sugar tax. Consultations are underway with key stakeholders, including the Ministry of Public Health, food and beverage manufacturers, the Thai Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the Federation of Thai Industries, and networks advocating for reduced salt consumption, to ensure that the policy aligns with current market conditions.

“According to WHO guidelines, the daily sodium intake should not exceed 2,000 mg per person. However, Thais consume more than twice that amount—around 3,600 mg per day. To prevent health issues, we plan to use tax policy as a tool to influence both production practices and consumer behavior,” Kulaya explained. “We will aim to minimize the impact on manufacturers’ costs.”

According to current data, the top three high-sodium foods in Thailand are: Instant noodles, snacks, and frozen foods. The Excise Department will identify target products and set sodium content criteria to determine the tax structure. Essential foods for daily living will also be considered for special guidelines.

“The salt tax will primarily focus on sodium content. We will determine appropriate measurement standards, define sodium thresholds, and establish corresponding tax rates. This tax will be tiered—just like the sugar tax.”

https://www.nationthailand.com/news/general/40050052
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I think it’s fair to say that lots of food in Thailand is relatively unhealthy so I support this attempt to reduce sodium intake.
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Do you really think the Gov't collecting tax will make a difference. A lot of these items are staples such as noodles. People will have to continue eating the cheap crap, whilst the Gov't gets richer.
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Maybe the manufacturers will change the ingredients?
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Was on my way along the railway Rd to have a late lunch at Esan Ban Suan when I spotted 'Friendly Bar & Bistro' just before it..So we stopped & went inside.
Both my lady & myself instantly got a bad feeling about the place when a]..They never turned the music volume down when we sat at our table,
b]..The staff never even turned to face us, just kept their backs to us as we sat down..
When we finally DID get recognised & got a menu to browse thru the prices were nearly 3 times what I was expecting!
Steak Langkao up at the top of 88's hill charges 120b for pork steak, chips & salad..This place wanted 286b for the same!
They had a board outside advertising 'Friendly breakfast' and a photo of a cup of coffee next to the pic of an 'English' platter.
They were NOT doing breakfasts, & did NOT have any coffee.. What a place.. :banghead:
(Way better service, food, & prices last week at 'Pat's Place' on the lower end of 94.. :thumb: )
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Big Boy wrote: Wed May 07, 2025 7:32 am I don't disagree with the differences in rent, but when you look at the massive Esan Baan Suan plot and what must be a huge staff overhead, whilst the cost per square metre might be considerably less, I'd imagine scale of size would put Esan Baan Suan's rent as high as most other town centre establishments who charge considerably more for a product not as good.

It is simply greed, and the fact tourists can find the town centre, where as Esan Baan Suan just as well be on the surface of the Moon.
I've just had lunch in Esan Baan Suan, which was excellent and I asked my partner about the set up there.
Apparently it's owned by locals from that area who have always owned that plot of land, so they have no rent and nearly all the staff are from Myanmar which also cuts costs.
Long may it continue, the food I had there today was the best I've eaten on this visit.
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