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dtaai-maai wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 7:35 pm Yes, I saw it too, but my first thought was how convenient. Maybe an attempt to save his blushes? It really was a truly dire performance.
Indeed, I would have been amazed to see him still in the squad (if fit) after that performance. That said, Wales have stuck with the vast majority of the Backline with the only changes due to injury. Latest news is that Liam Williams is likely out - he's certainly one that will be missed.... If only in defence!! :cry:
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BTW - Will post the "HHF/Superbru Prediction League Table" after this Round of matches..... Being a proud (but currently unhappy) Welshman, I shall no doubt suffer the consequences of never betting against my dear country/side :( I now understand why no Spurs supporters actively take part in the "HHF/Superbru Premier League Prediction" competitions (lost aside!! :naughty: :duck:

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Oh well.... As much as I understand the lack of interest in this thread, it does give me space to let off steam!! :neener: :D

Italy vs Wales (22 vs 15) :cry:

Well, at least the U20’s won – bring on that coaching team (“Howller” had F’all to do with it BTW)!!
We can blame the conditions (same for both), we can blame some poor refereeing (same for both), but Italy were the better team by far and Wales were lucky to only lose by 7. Taking nothing away from Italy, Wales were shockingly poor (disgraceful really) – as is the norm, bereft of a gameplan and clueless in attack. It didn’t help when we expect players out of position to perform and keep selecting players who are not worthy of the position.
I have been a great supporter of Gatland in past years (NEVER a fan of Howley in coaching terms), but there is zero excuse for this. The selection is wrong, the tactics are wrong, the gameplan is wrong, the coaches are wrong – the “Blazers” of the WRU are clueless yet keep their collective jobs and salaries.

Went on a bit of a Rant after this (Soapbox doesn’t come close) … :oops:

I will only add this (one of many) devastating statistics from Italy vs Wales… “Wales had 13 first phase carries in the first half and made one metre.– Hurt doesn’t come close to how I’m feeling.

On the positive side though, the “Triple Crown” is still on for Wales!! :neener: :dance:

England vs France (26 vs 25)

Just to add to my woes and a dire Saturday, the Lillywhites win!! :roll: :(

A far better though error-strewn game of rugby than the earlier attempt in Rome, and as much as I hate to say it the Lillywhites did very well (aside from the first 15-20)! The forwards were outstanding – the “Curries” quite something, Fin Smith at 10 did very well (why didn’t he have all kicking duties), “Girly Smith” at 15 perhaps not his best (showy little shite) - I’m thinking Fin at 10 and Furbank at 15 going forward. Depressing as it is for a Welshman, the amount of quality players the Lillywhites have is ridiculous. I think we should give you our Welsh Rugby Union Members and Coaching Team to even things out a little…

Great to see Lawrence (Bath) having another good game in midfield as did the backline as a whole in the end… If the French handled well, it could have been a very different story though, they could well have been 2-3 tries clear early on.

That said, the English defence is much improved from last year’s dire attempt at their “Rush Defence”, but there’s no question Les Bleus were far from their best both in that facet of the game (Edwards will be pissed off) and in attack. The French minus Ntamack after his idiotic Red Card against Wales, a misfiring Ramos at 15 and for once a poor game for Dupont were key to their loss IMHO.

Scotland vs Ireland (18 vs 32)

Result-wise.. Meh. Both full of “Plastic Nationals” (sorry) - Just wanted to enjoy the game despite it being Leinster vs….. Anywho: -
I gave up on the Live match at HT, but revisited the highlights. So many comments regarding “Russel” going off being a huge factor, but Scotland were simply done by the power and work rate and fitness of Ireland – they also do the simple things well! Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of Russel (Bath), but his errors cost - sometimes outweighing his brilliance.

The Yellow Card for VDM was utter stupidity on his part and just gave further advantage to Ireland.
Pendergast I thought had a hell of a game – completely different from last week. Henshaw also for those slightly West of Wales....
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As for the "Superbru/HHF Prediction League"...... I'm doing about as well as Wales!! :cry: :wink:

After Round 2, there is much to do!!
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Well, Gatland has gone - not a huge surprise there. The problem is many in the WRU MUST GO also and a clear-out of the "Coaching Staff" is also required. "Howler" as the Attack Coach has been a disaster throughout and must also go, but there are 1 or 2 I'd like to remain.... Adam Jones being foremost, but an agreement would have to be made with "HarleQueens" who he is currently contracted to. Either way, Howley must go - many were done and dusted with him after the RWC in Japan!!

I would adore to see Shaun Edwards back in the Wales setup, but it will never happen - the WRU treated him like dirt and he (quite rightly) gave the middle finger.

I'd love to see the New Zealander and Oz Coach Joe Schmidt to be there as Head Coach, but he's already said he's going to leave Oz to spend more time with the family... But, who in their right mind would want to take on the Welsh job?

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, come on DM!! - we agree on all fronts with rugby :neener: :butt: and we could share the salary!! I would of course expect the larger margin for making a "Guest Appearance" on the field of play, but we can discuss that later..... Oh hang on, latest is that Matt Sherratt (Cardiff) has been appointed as Interim Coach - well, at least it's not Howler.

Bad, sad, sad times...... :cry: :cry:
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pharvey wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 9:07 pm
HELL[/b], come on DM!! - we agree on all fronts with rugby :neener: :butt: and we could share the salary!! I would of course expect the larger margin for making a "Guest Appearance" on the field of play, but we can discuss that later.....
Yes, and I could do all the interviews... :laugh:
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dtaai-maai wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:27 pm
pharvey wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 9:07 pm
HELL[/b], come on DM!! - we agree on all fronts with rugby :neener: :butt: and we could share the salary!! I would of course expect the larger margin for making a "Guest Appearance" on the field of play, but we can discuss that later.....
Yes, and I could do all the interviews... :laugh:
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"Howler" has GONE!! And call-ups for fly-halves Jarrod Evans and Gareth Anscombe, and centre Max Llewellyn. :clap: :dance: :clap:

Thankfully we now take a break in the 6 Nations until Round 3 which takes place over the 22nd and 23rd of February and which will also give Wales time to make room for that "Triple Crown Trophy" :wink:

"Assistant coach Rob Howley has left the Wales set-up as interim boss Matt Sherratt makes changes to his squad and staff.

Sherratt has been appointed for the remaining three games of the Six Nations after Warren Gatland left his head coach role following a record run of 14 consecutive Test defeats.

Howley was a long-time assistant of Gatland's and has followed the New Zealander in departing, although the Welsh Rugby Union says he will remain under contract despite stepping aside for the rest of the Six Nations.

Cardiff head coach Sherratt has also called up three players who he has worked with in the Welsh capital, fly-halves Jarrod Evans and Gareth Anscombe, and centre Max Llewellyn.

Harlequins 10 Evans and Gloucester pair Anscombe and Llewellyn were all notable absentees in Gatland's original Wales squad for this Six Nations.

But there is a need for reinforcements as full-back Liam Williams and centre Owen Watkin have been released from the squad following knee injuries.

Evans and Anscombe will add to Wales' limited options at fly-half, with Ospreys youngster Dan Edwards the only genuine 10 in the squad as Cardiff's Ben Thomas has been asked to play there despite playing for his club at 12."


Taken From: - https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/a ... qlgd1nv3yo

Nothing much on rugby-wise this weekend, though I'll give Ospreys vs Leinster a look.... Friday 14th, KO 7:35pm (UK) - BBC iPlayer/Premier Sports1/TG4.

That said, it is Valentine's Day, so I may be expected to give the LHG attention rather than rugby!
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And we head to Round 3 of the 6 Nations..... The BEST Rugby Tournament on earth, but sadly depressingly poor for Wales and us true supporters as it stands :roll: :cry:

BIG changes for Wales - "NEW" Coaching Staff, Players, Tactics (hopefully) brought in. Of course there is no magic wand or an immediate turnaround expected - all we can hope for is some fire, some spark, just something!! We are playing back-to-back 6N Champions and the now favourites for the tournament... Ahh, but feck it - I BELIEVE! :neener:

As for the Lillywhites and the Sweaties... Once again, I can only hope :wink: But the Lillywhites are looking good at the moment - Scotland not so much. Scotland need decent ball and Russell to be at his best for this game, but I fear the English pack will control matters and therefore provide the ball Finn Smith needs to control things.

I feel for Italy and their castoff multi-nationals - the French will be but pissed off after their loss at Lah-de-Dah HQ and I feel the lads in Rome will suffer the brunt.

Anywho, I'm all for Wales stuffing things up for anyone taking the Triple Crown/Grand Slam this year!! :neener: :butt: :D

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Christ, apologies - how in God's name could I have not posted after last weekend's display by Wales and the utterly fluke win by the Lillywhites?!!

Well, OK - Shite refereeing obviously throughout (I'll get that in before DM and others accuse me of any different).... :wink:

Seriously though, some great rugby and much to look forward to in the latter stages.

Wales vs Ireland 18 v 27

For once in a long while, a very enjoyable game for this (and many other) Welsh supporter(s). Absolutely cracking game and it was a joy to see the Welsh wanting to play. Of course Ireland deserved the win, but there was the disallowed Welsh Try (seen the like given in many other matches), or Ireland's "20 Minute Red Card" which could have (and should have in some peoples eyes) been a "Straight Red" - I for one wouldn't agree or want to see a "Straight Red" for that, but under the rules..... :wink:

The changes made by Interim Coach Matt Sherratt (I wish he would stay) worked incredibly well. Anscombe at 10 was not at his best, but his kicking game and offloading still made a huge difference. The Front Row stood up incredibly well and Faletau at Number 8 looked 10 years younger and was everywhere!! Ellis Mee on his first cap was outstanding IMHO - big future for him, similarly Blair Murray at FB... :cheers:

We may have lost, but there truly is some hope and some light at the end of that tunnel.... :thumb:

England vs Scotland 16 v 15

Good God, how lucky was that for the Lillywhites..?! Scotland dominated in my book, but the Smiths kept them in the game with the boot and there was that "very questionable try" by Tommy Freeman.

Everyone expects me as a Welshman and my fellow countrymen to want to see the "Lillywhites" lose.... It's actually far from the case (unless we play each other). But it has to be said, why are they not doing a damned sight better considering the "Player Pool" they have (and still stealing players)? Coaching-wise, the defence seemed to have improved greatly and the backline were looking good with shifting the girl to 15 and putting Fin at 10.... Either way,, looking forward to Wales teaching you a lesson... :duck: :wink:

Italy vs France 24 v 73

Well, I have to give a big hand to Italy!! They did truly give it their all, but it was over after 30 odd minutes :(

They never gave up the fight (unlike Wales have done previously), but ultimately were completely over-powered and outplayed.

Despite their loss to the Lillywhites, I honestly see France having too much power in the forwards for Ireland - it's going to be interesting!!
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Once again - apologies. I should have posted earlier... I will of course continue to bet on the country of my birth - WE WILL BE BACK!! :wink:

I have no comment regarding Dai_L who is betting against Wales.. :cuss: :banghead:

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pharvey wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:16 am Everyone expects me as a Welshman and my fellow countrymen to want to see the "Lillywhites" lose.... It's actually far from the case (unless we play each other).
just seven days after:
As for the Lillywhites and the Sweaties... Once again, I can only hope :wink:
Hoist by your own petard! :shock:

In the true spirit of rugby friendship, I was happy to see Wales emerge from their recent torpor. :laugh:
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And Round 4 of the 6 Nations is just a few days away!! Far more confidence in Wales, but at the end of the day we're on a 15 match losing streak and playing against one of the best Scots teams we've seen in some time (regardless of recent losses). Ireland will be bloody difficult to beat at home, but I think France will fancy their chances - both matches should be crackers I think! :thumb:

I can't see the Lillywhites having any problems against the Italians, especially at "Rah-rah HQ". Italy just aren't the side that they were in '24 and let's be fair, their win against Wales was more to do with Wales being absolute shite :( :oops: Truly no offence to Italy.. I also hope Italy can put in a BIG performance just as I hope Wales put in a massive performance at Murrayfield... :thumb:

Unfortunately, the LHG has insisted on a weekend away in Devon, so the liklyhood of me enjoying rugby is slim..... That said, we'll get down there early evening on the Friday (could catch Newcastle vs Bath) and the weather is not predicted to be great..... We could therefore be back at the lodge in time for the Welsh game (or maybe 2nd Half) :thumb: :wink:

Anywho, fixtures below - NOTE: - The U20's matches are all being played on the Friday evening (+/- 7:45pm) and will be available on BBC/iPlayer. ALL TIMES are UK.
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Wow Pharvey! Give Wales another 20 minutes and they would have won it. I only turned it on at 65 minutes and they were playing like men possessed. That goal line stand between 70-72 I don't think I've ever seen anything like that. The denied try when he hurdled the Scotland player I don't understand. To me he just brushed his head with his butt. In any event you can't deny Wales effort. Good things will come in the future if they continue to play like that. :cheers: :cheers:
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PeteC wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 1:42 amYep
I only turned it on at 65 minutes and they were playing like men possessed.
Yep, but unfortunately you missed the previous 65 minutes when they mostly played like a bunch of uncoordinated morons who had never met each other before. The farce around the 32nd minute was both tragic and hilarious.
That goal line stand between 70-72 I don't think I've ever seen anything like that.
Indeed, some very impressive defence occasionally.
The denied try when he hurdled the Scotland player I don't understand. To me he just brushed his head with his butt.
On the face of it it was an extremely impressive bit of movement by the Welsh full back, but he was adjudged to have jumped over the attempted tackle, which you can't do. I confess I thought it was a crying shame that try was disallowed. I'm sure pharvey will have a view on the legality of that when he gets back from Cornwall.

Bottom line? At half time it looked as though it might be an embarrassing slaughter, but Wales did well to turn it around and give the Jocks something to think about.
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