This may be the wrong place to raise this issue.
We shall see.
I am English my fiancee is Thia.
It is something she has raised.
Why are young English people paid by the Government not to work?
I must admit i am at a loss to explain the reasoning.
I am aware of the acts placed into our society since 1947ish.
BUT.
She cannot get her head around the fact that a young girl can sire offspring and the government takes on financial responsibilty.
Whilst i am sure a lot of bar girls would like this assistance.
By that i mean they would love the Government to help them. instead of selling themselves to Farangs to send money back to there villages to look after there children and there families.
I guess my question is.
What is the difference between our cultures?
Thia /English culture.
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Your GF seems incredulous of those two examples. Is she also incredulous that old people get financial help when they are too old to work (yes, I know it's not a lot)? How about that people with disabilities get benefits? Or that families on low incomes are often entitled to benefits?
There are a lot of things I think are wrong with the UK, but our social security system is not one of them. I think many people in Thailand would be very grateful for something similar.
There are a lot of things I think are wrong with the UK, but our social security system is not one of them. I think many people in Thailand would be very grateful for something similar.
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lomuamart wrote:Taxation and accountability.
There's virtually none in Thailand.
Jaime & Lomuamart, I agree, and on the other hand there is a lot of these:Jaime wrote:Britain is a liberal democracy, whereas Thailand is not and probably never will be.
Corruption in all levels.
Immoral politicians and public servants.
No planning or random decision making.
Discrimination.
Say mai penrai live longer!
civilised? can you explain further?ozuncle wrote:On the other hand,
Thai people care for their older and younger family members more than we civilised people!
This care is provided in thailand because there is no other option. don't you think if the same benefits as the UK were available in Thailand things might change?
If not, then why do so many Thais aspire to move to the UK?
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Not sure about UK but by civilised I mean
Paying young people unemployment benefits nearly as much as you get if you work full time.
If adolescents can't get on with their parents because the cant accept discipline we assist them financially so they can leave home and live with their mates.
Unemployment in this country is approx 4% at the moment yet we still have a large number of young unemployed who prefer to surf instead of working. No worries, we pay them the dole.
Rant over.
I agree that if the same benefits were available in Thailand things would be the same. But there not.
Personally I dont think Thais "aspire" to leave Thailand.
I think it is more a matter of opportunity to make money to build a better life for themselves (and their family) that makes them leave.
All the ones I know come to work (or study) not claim benefits.
I just like the way the Thais I know, care for their older and younger extended families.
By the way BB count down is nearly over.
Have a great time.
Not sure about UK but by civilised I mean
Paying young people unemployment benefits nearly as much as you get if you work full time.
If adolescents can't get on with their parents because the cant accept discipline we assist them financially so they can leave home and live with their mates.
Unemployment in this country is approx 4% at the moment yet we still have a large number of young unemployed who prefer to surf instead of working. No worries, we pay them the dole.
Rant over.
I agree that if the same benefits were available in Thailand things would be the same. But there not.
Personally I dont think Thais "aspire" to leave Thailand.
I think it is more a matter of opportunity to make money to build a better life for themselves (and their family) that makes them leave.
All the ones I know come to work (or study) not claim benefits.
I just like the way the Thais I know, care for their older and younger extended families.
By the way BB count down is nearly over.
Have a great time.
You only live once.
If they let the youngsters work, how would all of the Poles survive? There aren't enough jobs for the youngsters and the Poles.STEVE G wrote:I've always been a bit curious about this myself!Why are young English people paid by the Government not to work?
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Seems to me the UK still has some Imperialistic views on how the world should revolve....
Something about the fact all our kids these days are brainwashed into becoming a 'Chief' rather than an 'Indian' if i may use this analogy.
When was the last time anyone saw a new carpenters workshop or building department getting constructed at their local school.
It would sure cost a lot less than a classroom full of computers to sit and play on all day and may even be used to bring something constructive to the community.
We can't all be financial advisors, accountants and bank managers otherwise nobody would do any actual work.
Is it me...?
Two words.... NATIONAL SERVICE.... works for every other blinkin country!
Something about the fact all our kids these days are brainwashed into becoming a 'Chief' rather than an 'Indian' if i may use this analogy.
When was the last time anyone saw a new carpenters workshop or building department getting constructed at their local school.
It would sure cost a lot less than a classroom full of computers to sit and play on all day and may even be used to bring something constructive to the community.
We can't all be financial advisors, accountants and bank managers otherwise nobody would do any actual work.
Is it me...?
Two words.... NATIONAL SERVICE.... works for every other blinkin country!
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no it's not you gunner.
The very fabric of British society seems to be breaking down.
The fact that for some people it is easier to breed than work is appaling.
I started this thread because i could not explain to my Thia girlfriend how young fit men in England could just get money from the government for doing nothing.
My money as it happens.
As a lifelong socialist. I believe in the welfare state.
The fact that free healthcare is available to all.
Those on hard times get some help.
A pension after 40 years work.
All positive things.
BUT.
Why o why is it so abused.
Why do immigrants risk there life to get to England?
Is it our freedom of speech? Or our welfare system.
If you have an answer let me know.
The very fabric of British society seems to be breaking down.
The fact that for some people it is easier to breed than work is appaling.
I started this thread because i could not explain to my Thia girlfriend how young fit men in England could just get money from the government for doing nothing.
My money as it happens.
As a lifelong socialist. I believe in the welfare state.
The fact that free healthcare is available to all.
Those on hard times get some help.
A pension after 40 years work.
All positive things.
BUT.
Why o why is it so abused.
Why do immigrants risk there life to get to England?
Is it our freedom of speech? Or our welfare system.
If you have an answer let me know.
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scroungers
the uk welfare system is just a joke, not a funny one though!
it was set up for people who have genuinely fallen on hard times & need help to get back on their feet again, not lazy scroungers, teenage baby machines or immigrants looking for an easy life.
how much longer will the honest working people of the uk continue to support the people who are taking without making any contribution?
& how much longer can the system sustain the ever increasing handouts?
it was set up for people who have genuinely fallen on hard times & need help to get back on their feet again, not lazy scroungers, teenage baby machines or immigrants looking for an easy life.
how much longer will the honest working people of the uk continue to support the people who are taking without making any contribution?
& how much longer can the system sustain the ever increasing handouts?
Remember, no one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Re: scroungers
Australia is not much betterredzonerocker wrote:the uk welfare system is just a joke, not a funny one though!
it was set up for people who have genuinely fallen on hard times & need help to get back on their feet again, not lazy scroungers, teenage baby machines or immigrants looking for an easy life.
how much longer will the honest working people of the uk continue to support the people who are taking without making any contribution?
& how much longer can the system sustain the ever increasing handouts?