Korean Plane Crash Dec 29, 2024

[PeteC]

(Moving topic to News as the flight originated in Bangkok)

To me, this video looks like the guy forgot to put his landing gear down?! If he knew it was defective and not down, you go around and allow them to foam the runway. Not come in full speed like it appears he did.

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cz0r2lj5p8eo. (Video)

[PeteC]

Full story to date:

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c4glr85l2ldt

[Nereus]

Like most "accidents", the end result is a sequence of events.
It appears that the aircraft suffered a bird strike on approach, supposedly a go around, a change of runway followed by complete confusion by the crew. They may also have been attempting another go around after realizing that the landing gear was not down. The complete destruction was caused by overshooting the runway and slamming into a huge berm 200 meters past the overrun area. RIP

[pharvey]

It's obviously been all over the news this morning and the general consensus (as mentioned) is that it was (at least in part) caused by a bird strike. It seems that that all control was lost - no landing gear, no flaps (?), no reverse thrust from any of the engines as there was zero reduction in speed - had there been a complete loss of power? Seems a little strange to me that a bird strike (1 engine) would cause this total loss of power/control.

Either way, a dreadful incident - apparently just 2 crew members survived with all 177 others lost. It was reported that there were 2 Thai nationals on board with the remaining being Korean.

[Green Nomad]

As pharvey wrote, this was a multi factor incident as most major air crashes are. A loss of one engine should not normally result in the loss of an aircraft. The pilot should have done a go around and assess his options, what systems lost, alternative landing area etc, he should have had enough fuel to do this. Something was not right about this, ultimately, pilot error. Look what has happened in the past with this sort of incident, Hudson River and the Heathrow 777. And before anybody writes, I have 40 years experience as an aircraft tech.

[PET]

The Thai lady killed was a good friend of my wife and well known to me RIP DOUNG

[sateeb]

As pharvey wrote, this was a multi factor incident as most major air crashes are. A loss of one engine should not normally result in the loss of an aircraft. The pilot should have done a go around and assess his options, what systems lost, alternative landing area etc, he should have had enough fuel to do this. Something was not right about this, ultimately, pilot error. Look what has happened in the past with this sort of incident, Hudson River and the Heathrow 777. And before anybody writes, I have 40 years experience as an aircraft tech.

Then you will know all about the Swiss cheese model?

[Nereus]

The Thai lady killed was a good friend of my wife and well known to me RIP DOUNG

Thats terrible, so close to home. RIP

[sateeb]

As pharvey wrote, this was a multi factor incident as most major air crashes are. A loss of one engine should not normally result in the loss of an aircraft. The pilot should have done a go around and assess his options, what systems lost, alternative landing area etc, he should have had enough fuel to do this. Something was not right about this, ultimately, pilot error. Look what has happened in the past with this sort of incident, Hudson River and the Heathrow 777. And before anybody writes, I have 40 years experience as an aircraft tech.

To quote my brother with over 50 years as a licensed aircraft tech with Saudia, BA etc. "Doesn't make him an air crash investigator,. Classic Monday morning quarterback!" RIP the flight crew and victims.

[STEVE G]

As pharvey wrote, this was a multi factor incident as most major air crashes are. A loss of one engine should not normally result in the loss of an aircraft. The pilot should have done a go around and assess his options, what systems lost, alternative landing area etc, he should have had enough fuel to do this. Something was not right about this, ultimately, pilot error. Look what has happened in the past with this sort of incident, Hudson River and the Heathrow 777. And before anybody writes, I have 40 years experience as an aircraft tech.

Then you will know all about the Swiss cheese model?

I’ve been thinking that this will be another chapter in the Human Factors course.