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Dannie Boy wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:33 pm And you had to stand up when they played the National Anthem (at about 10.30) when the station closed down!!
Oh yes, I do remember that.... And it has to be said even then there wasn't an "English National Anthem"!! :wink: :duck:
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Recently got myself a new tv that supports HDR 10+. Game changer for me and I've found myself more and more reluctant to watch visually appealing movies (sci fi, fantasy and the like...) on anything less. The difference in quality is night and day. Now... watching a 2160 YTS download compared to a non-compressed HDR 10+ 2160 legal stream —it's like watching a 480p compared to a 1080p. Amazing difference. But... means free dodgy downloading goes out the window. :(

As the name suggests, HDR10+ takes all of the good parts of HDR10 and improves upon them. It quadruples the maximum brightness to 4,000 nits, which thereby increases contrast. But the biggest difference is in how HDR10+ handles information.

With HDR10, the “metadata” that is fed by the content source is static, which means there’s one set of values established for a whole piece of content, like an entire movie. HDR10+ makes this metadata dynamic, allowing it to change for each frame of video. This means every frame is treated to its own set of colors, brightness, and contrast parameters, making for a much more realistic-looking image. Areas of the screen that might have been oversaturated under HDR10 will display their full details with HDR10+. But wait, there’s more — Samsung, long a proponent of HDR10+, has kicked things up yet another notch. The company’s HDR10+ Adaptive technology allows your TV to detect the brightness of your viewing space and make micro adjustments to the brightness, contrast, etc., in response to changes in the room.


Not a recommended movie post but if you enjoy watching movies, I recommend getting a compatible TV for the HDR 10+

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To add for reference, TV is Samsung Crystal LED 65". About £700. Well worth it for me, maybe not for others.

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Further add...

UHD movie file sizes can range from 50 to 90 gig file sizes I believe. So the loss of quality in sound/picture must be significant when downloading compressed few gig files. Dune Part 2, for example, is 78.75 gig. YTS offers a 4k of 7.4gig.

Think Buksi would be more in the know of just how much quality is lost with that much compression. My eyes certainly notice it.

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^I keep seeing these amazing TV's but everytime I get near to buying one, I have to remind myself that all my favourite movies are in black and white!
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STEVE G wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 1:34 am ^I keep seeing these amazing TV's but everytime I get near to buying one, I have to remind myself that all my favourite movies are in black and white!
Casablanca's gonna look amazing in darker blacks and whiter whites. :D
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I wish I hadn't bought Samsung as they use a proprietary version of Android, which makes it hard/impossible to load some Android apps. I knew they didn't use vanilla Android at the time, but didn't understand that would be a problem. Some other brands also don't use plain Android.
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Lost wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 12:36 am Think Buksi would be more in the know of just how much quality is lost with that much compression. My eyes certainly notice it.
Buksi's eyes are shot to shit so he can barely notice the difference between HD and 4K. Defo not worth the extra and hassles of 70 gig movies for me!
404cameljockey wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 8:02 am I wish I hadn't bought Samsung as they use a proprietary version of Android, which makes it hard/impossible to load some Android apps. I knew they didn't use vanilla Android at the time, but didn't understand that would be a problem. Some other brands also don't use plain Android.
Yep, was mentioned earlier in this thread, the big brand names lock you in to their own app stores. Hisense uses open Android to you can put whatever apps on it you want.
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buksida wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 11:24 am can barely notice the difference between HD and 4K. Defo not worth the extra and hassles of 70 gig movies for me!
I'd agree with that - the extra baggage must be quite costly and timely.

I currently have >50 movies downloaded, and waiting to watch. If I could download such massive files, you're talking 3,500Gb of storage for movies alone. I must say, I wouldn't know where to download such beasts. Alternatively, how much would it cost to buy such a movie? Do they sell such quality?
buksida wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 11:24 am Yep, was mentioned earlier in this thread, the big brand names lock you in to their own app stores. Hisense uses open Android to you can put whatever apps on it you want.
Yes, I followed buksi's advice, and what a brilliant piece of kit for about £125 (truly throw-away if it ever fails). I'd never consider anything else at the moment.
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404cameljockey wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 8:02 am I wish I hadn't bought Samsung as they use a proprietary version of Android, which makes it hard/impossible to load some Android apps. I knew they didn't use vanilla Android at the time, but didn't understand that would be a problem. Some other brands also don't use plain Android.
Get an Android box and plug it into the TV. It will totally bypass wherever restrictions built into the TV.
Side note: most smart TVs have an expiration date of the installed software; I found this out with the Sony, the apps just disappeared one day and it took a bit of Googling around to find out. And I would suspect the software providers have similar arrangements with the other brands too.
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^Yes, I have a Panasonic TV out in a room in the garden that hasn't been used since the YouTube app disappeared after five years. I only used it to put on music videos if we were entertaining so it's pretty much useless now.
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buksida wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 11:24 am can barely notice the difference between HD and 4K. Defo not worth the extra and hassles of 70 gig movies for me!
I'd agree with that - the extra baggage must be quite costly and timely.

I currently have >50 movies downloaded, and waiting to watch. If I could download such massive files, you're talking 3,500Gb of storage for movies alone. I must say, I wouldn't know where to download such beasts. Alternatively, how much would it cost to buy such a movie? Do they sell such quality?
buksida wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 11:24 am Yep, was mentioned earlier in this thread, the big brand names lock you in to their own app stores. Hisense uses open Android to you can put whatever apps on it you want.
Yes, I followed buksi's advice, and what a brilliant piece of kit for about £125 (truly throw-away if it ever fails). I'd never consider anything else at the moment.
What size screen is that?


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I think it is 43" - didn't need a big one as it's to use on the porch. It really is the best TV we have though. When True were faffing about with football a few weeks back, I was considering buying the 65" version. If my Android Box plan failed, that was still my Plan B.
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I just bought a Sharp TV which uses Google TV as its interface. This means that I can load all of my Apps on it (including my English Expat TV App). I use a VPN with a fixed IP-address in London which means that my TV "thinks" that is in the UK. This means that I can watch UK TV, Channel 4, etc. There are problems with BBC iPlayer and ITVX in that they are only available for devices that have been approved by the BBC and ITV. All devices for sale in the UK get an almost automatic approval. I happen to have bought a Sharp model that is not sold in the UK so I can't load iPlayer or ITVX. However I have both these apps working on my telephone and can cast programs from them to my TV by just pressing one button.
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Big Boy wrote:I think it is 43" - didn't need a big one as it's to use on the porch. It really is the best TV we have though. When True were faffing about with football a few weeks back, I was considering buying the 65" version. If my Android Box plan failed, that was still my Plan B.
That’s an incredible price for that size of TV. Although they may be slightly different models, most Hisense TV’s in the UK get good reviews, so when the time comes to replace my 55” Samsung, that’s almost certainly the brand I will consider first.


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