History Challenge & Journal

Discussion, recommendations and reviews for music, movies, books and games. Creative arts, crafts and photography welcome.
Post Reply
User avatar
pharvey
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 15748
Joined: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:21 am
Location: Sir Fynwy - God's Country

Re: History Challenge & Journal

Post by pharvey »

Dannie Boy wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 9:50 pm I thought it looked more like Mrs Harvey counting her husbands stash of £10 notes :duck:
A tad tall for both the LHG and my "stash of £10 notes" (or lack of).... I'm far sadder for the latter!! :(
hhinner wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:40 pm At a guess, stacks of punched cards. A database of days gone by.
Christ, that didn't last long!! :roll: :wink:

It's a collection of some 62,500 punch cards amounting to a whopping 4.5 Megabytes of information (circa 1955).

Or £625,000 DB :D

:cheers: :cheers:
"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things" - Yma o Hyd.
User avatar
Dannie Boy
Hero
Hero
Posts: 13797
Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:12 pm
Location: Closer to Cha Am than Hua Hin

Re: History Challenge & Journal

Post by Dannie Boy »

pharvey wrote:
Dannie Boy wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 9:50 pm I thought it looked more like Mrs Harvey counting her husbands stash of £10 notes :duck:
A tad tall for both the LHG and my "stash of £10 notes" (or lack of).... I'm far sadder for the latter!! :(
hhinner wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:40 pm At a guess, stacks of punched cards. A database of days gone by.
Christ, that didn't last long!! :roll: :wink:

It's a collection of some 62,500 punch cards amounting to a whopping 4.5 Megabytes of information (circa 1955).

Or £625,000 DB :D

:cheers: :cheers:
I’m sure your stash is bigger than that, you’re just shy!!

As for the punch cards, I remember using them in one of my first jobs at the beginning of the 70’s - fairly certain they were made by IBM.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
User avatar
pharvey
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 15748
Joined: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:21 am
Location: Sir Fynwy - God's Country

Re: History Challenge & Journal

Post by pharvey »

Dannie Boy wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:08 pm I’m sure your stash is bigger than that, you’re just shy!!
Oh for the "bigger" things in life.... !! :roll:
Dannie Boy wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:08 pm As for the punch cards, I remember using them in one of my first jobs at the beginning of the 70’s - fairly certain they were made by IBM.
Certainly can't remember Punch Cards, but how about "The Telex Machine", before the FAX took over and then the latter made obsolete by Email...?

:cheers: :cheers:
"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things" - Yma o Hyd.
User avatar
Dannie Boy
Hero
Hero
Posts: 13797
Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:12 pm
Location: Closer to Cha Am than Hua Hin

Re: History Challenge & Journal

Post by Dannie Boy »

pharvey wrote:
Dannie Boy wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:08 pm I’m sure your stash is bigger than that, you’re just shy!!
Oh for the "bigger" things in life.... !! :roll:
Dannie Boy wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:08 pm As for the punch cards, I remember using them in one of my first jobs at the beginning of the 70’s - fairly certain they were made by IBM.
Certainly can't remember Punch Cards, but how about "The Telex Machine", before the FAX took over and then the latter made obsolete by Email...?

:cheers: :cheers:
Unfortunately I can remember those too - I worked for the Central Electricity Generating Board at their London HQ in the early 70’s and they had all “the latest technology”!!Image


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
User avatar
pharvey
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 15748
Joined: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:21 am
Location: Sir Fynwy - God's Country

Re: History Challenge & Journal

Post by pharvey »

And you thought your job wasn't exactly "perfect"... Must admit, I wouldn't want to be the "Groom of the Stool"

https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/H ... b-96035078

:cheers: :cheers:
"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things" - Yma o Hyd.
User avatar
pharvey
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 15748
Joined: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:21 am
Location: Sir Fynwy - God's Country

Re: History Challenge & Journal

Post by pharvey »

Not a challenge, but one for the "History Buffs..." Has been on the TV news today with it being a major discovery - though there is so much of Pompeii still to be uncovered/discovered for close to 2,000 years. Personally, I find it fascinating.

Pompeii: Breathtaking New Paintings Found at Ancient City

"Stunning artworks have been uncovered in a new excavation at Pompeii, the ancient Roman city buried in an eruption from Mount Vesuvius in AD79.
Archaeologists say the frescos are among the finest to be found in the ruins of the ancient site.
Mythical Greek figures such as Helen of Troy are depicted on the high black walls of a large banqueting hall.
The room's near-complete mosaic floor incorporates more than a million individual white tiles.
A third of the lost city has still to be cleared of volcanic debris. The current dig, the biggest in a generation, is underlining Pompeii's position as the world's premier window on the people and culture of the Roman empire.
Park director Dr Gabriel Zuchtriegel presented the "black room" exclusively to the BBC on Thursday.
It was likely the walls' stark colour was chosen to hide the smoke deposits from lamps used during entertaining after sunset.

"In the shimmering light, the paintings would have almost come to life," he said.

The black room is the latest treasure to emerge from the excavation, which started 12 months ago - an investigation that will feature in a documentary series from the BBC and Lion TV to be broadcast later in April.
A wide residential and commercial block, known as "Region 9", is being cleared of several metres of overlying pumice and ash thrown out by Vesuvius almost 2,000 years ago.
Staff are having to move quickly to protect new finds, removing what they can to a storeroom.
For the frescos that must stay in position, a plaster glue is injected to their rear to prevent them coming away from the walls. Masonry is being shored up with scaffolding and temporary roofing is going over the top."


Full story, pictures and video @ https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-68777741

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001yczv - This is the link to details of the documentary mentioned in the above report - "Pompeii: The New Dig". However, news reports have mentioned another documentary to be broadcast in May which I can't seem to find details on - perhaps just an error by the newsreader (certainly can't be me!!!) :D

:cheers: :cheers:
"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things" - Yma o Hyd.
User avatar
PeteC
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 32239
Joined: Tue Mar 23, 2004 7:58 am
Location: All Blacks training camp

Re: History Challenge & Journal

Post by PeteC »

France mourns nurse known as Angel of Dien Bien Phu

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjrr2z4kjd1o. (Photos)

A French nurse dubbed the “angel of Dien Bien Phu” for her care of wounded and dying soldiers during the Indochina war in the 1950s has died at the age of 99.

Geneviève de Galard became a celebrated figure exactly 70 years ago when she was the only woman nurse tending French casualties inside the doomed redoubt of Dien Bien Phu in northern Vietnam.

She won the adoration of French soldiers for her unflinching dedication during more than a month of bloody fighting before the stronghold fell on 7 May.

Captured, then released, by the Communist Viet Minh, she featured on the front page of Paris-Match magazine. Later she was given a ticker-tape parade in New York and was decorated by US President Eisenhower.

In a message on X, formerly Twitter, French President Emmanuel Macron said that “in the worst moments of the Indochina war, Geneviève de Galard showed an exemplary courage and devotion amid the suffering of 15,000 French soldiers”.

Born in 1925 into an aristocratic family in Paris and raised as an observant Catholic, de Galard trained as a nurse after World War Two and joined the army medical service as a flight-nurse.

After several trips evacuating wounded men from Dien Bien Phu, she was marooned there at the end of March 1954 when her plane sprung an oil leak. In the following days, Viet Minh bombardments put the airstrip out of action.

In the last phase of France’s eight-year war in its then colony of Indochina, the French army was ordered to hold on to Dien Bien Phu at all costs, even though as a remote rural settlement its military significance was limited.

But after dragging artillery through mountainous jungle terrain, the Viet Minh under Gen Vo Nguyen Giap surrounded the encampment and in 50 days of shelling and infantry charges forced the French into submission.

In stifling heat and with rudimentary sanitation, de Galard helped the army surgeons carry out scores of amputations and emergency operations. She comforted the dying and promised to deliver last messages to loved ones.

Little did she realise that amid the gloom of the unfolding disaster, the world’s press was writing up the one positive news story about the “angel of Dien Bien Phu” administering selflessly to the wounded.

A Time magazine profile was typical: “In Dien Bien Phu’s underground hospital, amid the stench of death, antiseptics and rotting wounds, Nurse de Galard lost 18 pounds in work and worry.

“She cut her hair very short; she switched at last to green fatigues, changing sometimes to a paratrooper’s trousers and shirt. She had her own dugout with silk sheets, made from parachutes… but more often she would sleep on a cot beside the wounded.

“I am glad I am trapped," she once told GHQ. "I am proud to be here.”

Before the fall of Dien Bien Phu, de Galard was decorated with the Military Cross and the Legion of Honour, and she was made an honorary member of the Foreign Legion.

In her memoirs she said: “In Dien Bien Phu I was a little bit the mother, a little bit the sister, a little bit the friend. Simply my being there, because I was a woman, seemed to make the hell a little less inhuman.”

After the war, de Galard married a soldier and eventually returned to live in Paris. She always said she was astounded by the fuss made about her, because she had merely done her duty.
Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. Source
User avatar
pharvey
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 15748
Joined: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:21 am
Location: Sir Fynwy - God's Country

Re: History Challenge & Journal

Post by pharvey »

Today marks the 80th anniversary of the D-Day Landings - June 6th 1944. My generation shall be forever in their debt - the current generation unfortunately largely clueless. For all those who fought against the tyranny and terrorism in this world and continue to do so - THANK YOU!! :bow:
.
d-day.jpg
d-day.jpg (92.17 KiB) Viewed 6935 times
.
"Two days of events are taking place in the UK and France to mark the 80th anniversary of the Normandy landings on 6 June 1944, when troops from the UK, the US, Canada, France and others landed in Normandy and attacked German forces.

Britain's wartime prime minister, Sir Winston Churchill, called it "the most complicated and difficult" operation of World War Two, leading to the eventual liberation of France from Nazi occupation."


In pictures: 80th anniversary of D-Day - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw440y48p0jo
"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things" - Yma o Hyd.
User avatar
dtaai-maai
Hero
Hero
Posts: 14894
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:00 pm
Location: UK, Robin Hood country

Re: History Challenge & Journal

Post by dtaai-maai »

Beefy Italian hunk to pharvey: Hey, big boy, you got any Roman in you?
pharvey: Umm, no.
Beefy Italian hunk: Would you like some? :naughty:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c51y1x4n9qko
New find hints Wales fully-integrated into Roman Britain
Now you know why I call him Pietro! :laugh: :laugh:
:cheers:

Now, now Grumpy one :tsk: - as all really know, us Welsh don't "Bend for a Friend" (well, perhaps the "odd one" in the village does)... :roll:

The Guardian has a better report :neener:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/art ... oman-peace
This is the way
User avatar
PeteC
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 32239
Joined: Tue Mar 23, 2004 7:58 am
Location: All Blacks training camp

Re: History Challenge & Journal

Post by PeteC »

Here are some smelly facts. I imagine London was about the same. :shock:

The Horse Manure Problem of 1894

The 15 to 30 pounds of manure produced daily by each beast multiplied by the 150,000+ horses in New York city resulted in more than three million pounds of horse manure per day that somehow needed to be disposed of. That’s not to mention the daily 40,000 gallons of horse urine.

In other words, cities reeked. As Morris says, the “stench was omnipresent.” Here are some fun bits from his article:

Urban streets were minefields that needed to be navigated with the greatest care. “Crossing sweepers” stood on street corners; for a fee they would clear a path through the mire for pedestrians. Wet weather turned the streets into swamps and rivers of muck, but dry weather brought little improvement; the manure turned to dust, which was then whipped up by the wind, choking pedestrians and coating buildings.

. . . even when it had been removed from the streets the manure piled up faster than it could be disposed of . . . early in the century farmers were happy to pay good money for the manure, by the end of the 1800s stable owners had to pay to have it carted off. As a result of this glut . . . vacant lots in cities across America became piled high with manure; in New York these sometimes rose to forty and even sixty feet.

We need to remind ourselves that horse manure is an ideal breeding ground for flies, which spread disease. Morris reports that deadly outbreaks of typhoid and “infant diarrheal diseases can be traced to spikes in the fly population.”

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18hA8iR2xz/

phptBmqysAM.jpg
Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. Source
User avatar
Jimbob
Legend
Legend
Posts: 2227
Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:27 am
Contact:

Re: History Challenge & Journal

Post by Jimbob »

and in winter icy stuff easy to slip on
User avatar
Jimbob
Legend
Legend
Posts: 2227
Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:27 am
Contact:

Re: History Challenge & Journal

Post by Jimbob »

seen on horses pulling carts when i was a kid
seen on horses pulling carts when i was a kid
horse bag.jpg (32.09 KiB) Viewed 5522 times
User avatar
pharvey
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 15748
Joined: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:21 am
Location: Sir Fynwy - God's Country

Re: History Challenge & Journal

Post by pharvey »

Pharaoh’s Tomb is the Biggest Ancient Egyptian Discovery Since King Tutankhamun

Thutmose II didn’t rule for long, but the find marks a major moment for Egyptology.

"Compared to his royal relatives, King Thutmose II doesn’t get much attention. Depending on the documentation, the monarch only ruled over ancient Egypt for 13 years (1493-1479 BCE) at most, and possibly as little as three (1482-1479 BCE). Egyptologists tend to focus more on his father, Thutmose I; half-sister and wife, Queen Hatshepsut; and son, Thutmose III.

But that doesn’t make the discovery of his final resting place any less important. On February 18, the Egyptian government announced that an international team of archeologists have finally confirmed the tomb’s location—making it the first and most significant royal find since the identification of King Tutankhamun’s tomb in 1922.

The story of recovering Thutmose II’s remains dates back to the 19th century, when researchers found the king’s mummified body at what is known as the Deir el-Bahari Cachette. But the site clearly wasn’t the mummy’s original location, leading experts to wonder about the whereabouts of Thutmose II’s original tomb for well over a century.

In 2022, experts unearthed a site a few miles west of Luxor and the Valley of Kings, which they designated Tomb No. C4. Given its relative simplicity and location near Queen Hatshepsut’s grave, archeologists initially theorized No. C4 contained one of King Thutmose III’s wives. The room and its features had been heavily damaged by flooding, making it difficult to understand its overall context. Further excavation also yielded the discovery of a second, smaller corridor thought to have been a robber’s tunnel."


Photo's and More @ https://www.popsci.com/science/thutmose ... dium=email
"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things" - Yma o Hyd.
User avatar
Jimbob
Legend
Legend
Posts: 2227
Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:27 am
Contact:

Re: History Challenge & Journal

Post by Jimbob »

Sometimes its easier to be fascinated by old rulers other current despots such as Putin I.
Post Reply