Morbid History

[Lost]

Many stories, images etc. I come across that delve into how brutal we were in the, often quite recent, past. Interesting to me, I'm a bit weird.

I'll start the thread rolling with a 200 year old bronze torture mask from Germany. Crikey.

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[Dannie Boy]

Many stories, images etc. I come across that delve into how brutal we were in the, often quite recent, past. Interesting to me, I'm a bit weird.

I'll start the thread rolling with a 200 year old bronze torture mask from Germany. Crikey.


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I bet he wished he’d gone to Specsavers!!

Sorry if anybody is offended, not trying to belittle how inhumane our ancestors were, although some of the current people are not much better.

[Lost]

Sorry if anybody is offended

Meh, we're in good old school company here I believe. We can joke about anything, as it used to be, as it should be.

Not morbid history really, just ending in death.

Frantz Reichelt (1878-1912) also known as 'The Flying Tailor' due to his influence in inventing, tailoring and parachuting, was adamant, fixated even, that his suit could convert into a parachute and prevent anyone falling from high up from being deaded. Tested with dummies, the suit was a success! Himself jumping from the Eiffel Tower... not so much.

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The aftermath from Wikipedia :

After Reichelt's death, authorities became wary of granting permission for any further parachute experiments using the Eiffel Tower.[18] Though they continued to grant permissions for parachute dummy drops,[19][20] some hopeful inventors – such as a man named Damblanc, who wished to try his "helicopter parachute" from the second platform – were refused permission to conduct tests,[18] and even applications for aviation experiments not involving the tower came under renewed scrutiny. More recently, the tower has become the scene of a number of illicit base jumps. A Norwegian man died in 2005 after losing his canopy while attempting a promotional jump for a clothing firm – the first parachuting death at the tower since Reichelt. A sanctioned stunt jump for the 1985 James Bond film A View to a Kill was successful.[21]

[Lost]

Deadly fashion. The 'crinoline' caused mass death of an 'estimated' 3000 women during the 1850s and 1860s. Worn by rich and poor alike, the thing was, obviously, highly flammable. Though most deaths were attributed to fire, others occurred for everything from getting caught in machinary to a gust of wind blowing women under carriages. Two of Oscar Wilde's sisters lost their lives to 'Death by Crinoline'.

https://mollybrown.org/death-by-crinoline/

One horrifying incident of wearing that thing:

"A 14 year old's dress caught on fire as she was attempting to reach several spoons above the fireplace. The girl died after suffering agony for hours on end, resulting from her serious burns."

Needless to say, the crinoline eventually dropped out of fashion.

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[Lost]

Marital Duels

Back in medieval Germany, when husband and wife had a particularly rough 'falling out' they could apply for a duel. If they couldn't come to an agreement, then it would end in death for one of them. Usually used as a test of marriage endurance during a riff, as the whole process, from application to combat, was slow and highly regulated.

It appears the loser is the one who lost all their weapons to the judges.

"As per the instructions, the husband was put up to his waist in a three-foot-wide hole dug in the ground, with one hand tied behind his back and offered three clubs as weapons. The woman was to be armed with three rocks, each weighing between one and five pounds, and each one wrapped in cloth. The man could not leave his hole but the woman was free to run around the edge of the pit. If the man touched the edge of the pit with either his hand or arm, he had to surrender one of his clubs to the judges. If the woman hit him with a rock while he was doing so, she forfeited one of her stones... If the woman won, the man was beheaded; if the man won, the woman was buried alive."

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Edit: Found this source which provides much more info for those considering a petition to resurrect such events.

https://www.ancient-origins.net/history ... at-0017263

[migrant]

Saw this and Lost, don't know why, came to mind.

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[dtaai-maai]

Saw this and Lost, don't know why, came to mind.377569087_1950696675314482_4295507930662136667_n.jpg

That'a brilliant! I don't usually bother with Halloween but I'll have to get one of these to give my grandson a laugh!

[pharvey]

That'a brilliant! I don't usually bother with Halloween but I'll have to get one of these to give my grandson a laugh!

Must admit, did appeal to me..... I was just too embarrassed to say!!

[pharvey]

As to the Thread Title, one thing that has always struck me has been the invention of the multitude of inhuman torture devices throughout history. One in particular (perhaps I saw a reference to it when I was a kid) is the "Brazen Bull"..... Jesus!!

"The brazen bull, also known as the bronze bull, Sicilian bull, or bull of Phalaris, was an alleged[1] torture and execution device designed in ancient Greece.[2] According to Diodorus Siculus, recounting the story in Bibliotheca historica, Perilaus (or Perillus) of Athens invented and proposed it to Phalaris, the tyrant of Akragas, Sicily, as a new means of executing criminals.[3] The bull was said to be hollow and made entirely out of bronze with a door in one side.[4] According to legends, the brazen bull was designed in the form and size of an actual bull and had an acoustic apparatus that converted screams into the sound of a bull. The condemned were locked inside the device, and a fire was set under it, heating the metal until the person inside was roasted to death. Pindar, who lived less than a century afterwards, expressly associates this instrument of torture with the name of the tyrant Phalaris.[5]"
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[dtaai-maai]

Looks a bit like that thing in Birmingham!

[pharvey]

Looks a bit like that thing in Birmingham!

Should give Crashappen and Homer a go!!

[Lost]

"The Brazen Bull". Jesus Christ.

I did find this bit kinda funny though.

had an acoustic apparatus that converted screams into the sound of a bull

[Lost]

Saw this and Lost, don't know why, came to mind.377569087_1950696675314482_4295507930662136667_n.jpg

Just been searching where to buy. £7. Will be there for the Halloween guests.

[Lost]

Hmm, reading reviews what you get is somewhat different to the picture.

Expectation vs reality

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[pharvey]

"The Brazen Bull". Jesus Christ.

I did find this bit kinda funny though.

had an acoustic apparatus that converted screams into the sound of a bull

For me at least, this was the sickest part of the whole thing...... Ho hum.