(Don't) Wear a Mask Debate

[KhunLA]

I'm curious if people (nobody particular) who feel the masks & vaccines work so well, that everyone should use & take, then why are you so scared of me for not participating ? Apparently you already are protected, supposedly from getting, or having a bad case of. Why such fear of the unmasked & unvax'd ?

Or ... they don't work, which would make some think, what's the point then ...

Actually a rhetorical question, as I probably know the answers that would follow. And answer to those are, 'don't worry, I'll stay away from you (as I have already), and will mask up when near you', entering vendors. Just to satisfy your paranoia, as would hate to add to anyone's stressful life, even though it disturbs my comfort. OK, maybe not, sounded good when I typed it. Better we just avoid each other like the plague / virus ...

You are protected after all ... or, do you not trust your own preachings ? ...

[dtaai-maai]

Just to satisfy your paranoia...

I'm a 64-yr-old Brit and I've been back in the UK for 4 years now. I've been fully vaccinated and I usually have a mask with me when I go out, although I occasionally forget if I'm just popping round to the local shop. I tend to wear a mask in shops and supermarkets, although most don't actually make it a requirement here now. I don't wear one outdoors, and I'll happily stop and chat with friends and neighbours just as I used to. Most people I know do the same. I don't stress about Covid, and I don't religiously follow the stats and read every study on the subject. I don't have the 'ping' app on my phone.

I'd say that puts me pretty much in the middle of the road here, though there are of course many others at either end of the spectrum. It does seem to me, however, that it's the committed anti-vaxxers/maskers who are most inclined to display paranoid tendencies.

You are protected after all ... or, do you not trust your own preachings ? ...

Again, as I see it from my unscientific perspective, I am protected to a degree by the vaccine, and I am also (more importantly) less likely to suffer the most serious symptoms, but I do feel it's important that the higher the percentage of the population who get themselves vaccinated (and I simply don't understand those who can do so but refuse) the more likely it is that we can all get completely back to normal.

I'm not particularly concerned with your case; you live in a rural environment and you seem quite happy not to interact with people. "Up to you" as they say...

As an addendum, I was recently asked to audition for something, and to bring evidence of a negative lateral flow test to gain entry. Will my vacination card suffice? No, apparently not. Well, thanks very much, but I'll pass.

EDIT: One way in which my behaviour has changed is that I'm much more likely to regularly wash my hands and/or use a hand sanitiser.

[sateeb]

Just to satisfy your paranoia...

I'm a 64-yr-old Brit and I've been back in the UK for 4 years now. I've been fully vaccinated and I usually have a mask with me when I go out, although I occasionally forget if I'm just popping round to the local shop. I tend to wear a mask in shops and supermarkets, although most don't actually make it a requirement here now. I don't wear one outdoors, and I'll happily stop and chat with friends and neighbours just as I used to. Most people I know do the same. I don't stress about Covid, and I don't religiously follow the stats and read every study on the subject. I don't have the 'ping' app on my phone.

I'd say that puts me pretty much in the middle of the road here, though there are of course many others at either end of the spectrum. It does seem to me, however, that it's the committed anti-vaxxers/maskers who are most inclined to display paranoid tendencies.

You are protected after all ... or, do you not trust your own preachings ? ...

Again, as I see it from my unscientific perspective, I am protected to a degree by the vaccine, and I am also (more importantly) less likely to suffer the most serious symptoms, but I do feel it's important that the higher the percentage of the population who get themselves vaccinated (and I simply don't understand those who can do so but refuse) the more likely it is that we can all get completely back to normal.

I'm not particularly concerned with your case; you live in a rural environment and you seem quite happy not to interact with people. "Up to you" as they say...

As an addendum, I was recently asked to audition for something, and to bring evidence of a negative lateral flow test to gain entry. Will my vacination card suffice? No, apparently not. Well, thanks very much, but I'll pass.

DM making a comeback in Adult movies? Gives a whole new meaning to a lateral flow test.

[KhunLA]

As an addendum, I was recently asked to audition for something, and to bring evidence of a negative lateral flow test to gain entry. Will my vaccination card suffice? No, apparently not. Well, thanks very much, but I'll pass.

Yea, those people, does make you wonder what their mindset is.

[lindosfan1]

As an addendum, I was recently asked to audition for something, and to bring evidence of a negative lateral flow test to gain entry. Will my vaccination card suffice? No, apparently not. Well, thanks very much, but I'll pass.

Yea, those people, does make you wonder what their mindset is.

The lateral flow is important, a friend has had the 2 injections, Two days ago is was diagnosed with covid, when I spoke to him yesterday he said it was like a bad dose of flu. He works in the tourist industry and now about 10 staff have got to have lateral flow tests.
The lateral flow test is important in stopping the infection spreading. I was thinking of going back to work for the company as a volunteer. This has stopped me doing it. I have had to jabs but they are not 100% protection, hopefully the booster will help if it happens.

[dtaai-maai]

As an addendum, I was recently asked to audition for something, and to bring evidence of a negative lateral flow test to gain entry. Will my vaccination card suffice? No, apparently not. Well, thanks very much, but I'll pass.

Yea, those people, does make you wonder what their mindset is.

The lateral flow is important, a friend has had the 2 injections, Two days ago is was diagnosed with covid, when I spoke to him yesterday he said it was like a bad dose of flu. He works in the tourist industry and now about 10 staff have got to have lateral flow tests.
The lateral flow test is important in stopping the infection spreading. I was thinking of going back to work for the company as a volunteer. This has stopped me doing it. I have had to jabs but they are not 100% protection, hopefully the booster will help if it happens.

Don't get me wrong, the logic in that is quite clear. Someone in your office comes down with Covid, obviously everyone needs to be tested. More especially in the tourism industry. And if someone in my family or who I'm in close contact with (cue 'fnaarf fnaarf' from sateeb ) gets it I'll happily have the test*, but as a standard requirement prior to entering a room with other people? As I said, I'll pass.

*EDIT: I wasn't feeling well at some point last year, and called the Covid line to request a test. Seemed the obvious and sensible thing to do. Negative fortunately.

[lindosfan1]

Yea, those people, does make you wonder what their mindset is.

The lateral flow is important, a friend has had the 2 injections, Two days ago is was diagnosed with covid, when I spoke to him yesterday he said it was like a bad dose of flu. He works in the tourist industry and now about 10 staff have got to have lateral flow tests.
The lateral flow test is important in stopping the infection spreading. I was thinking of going back to work for the company as a volunteer. This has stopped me doing it. I have had to jabs but they are not 100% protection, hopefully the booster will help if it happens.

Don't get me wrong, the logic in that is quite clear. Someone in your office comes down with Covid, obviously everyone needs to be tested. More especially in the tourism industry. And if someone in my family or who I'm in close contact with (cue 'fnaarf fnaarf' from sateeb ) gets it I'll happily have the test*, but as a standard requirement prior to entering a room with other people? As I said, I'll pass.

*EDIT: I wasn't feeling well at some point last year, and called the Covid line to request a test. Seemed the obvious and sensible thing to do. Negative fortunately.

That makes sense , we usually eat out at least twice a month, not even considering it at the moment. Being in a room with stragers is a no no.

[lindosfan1]

Following on in the BBC page today, from January 21 to June 21 in the UK 51,000 deaths of which 56 had the injections.
This demonstrates that to keep safe, everybody still needs to wear a mask.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58545548

[lindosfan1]

Following on in the BBC page today, from January 21 to June 21 in the UK 51,000 deaths of which 256 had the injections.
This demonstrates that to keep safe, everybody still needs to wear a mask.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58545548

[KhunLA]

Flip side of that fear monging headline For balance reporting, with a positive spin.

23+ million of unvaccinated people in the UK did not die from covid, or 35% of 67+ million.

On January 21, < 10% vaccinated, so 60+ million unvaccinated people didn't die from covid.

[lindosfan1]

Flip side of that fear monging headline For balance reporting, with a positive spin.

23+ million of unvaccinated people in the UK did not die from covid, or 35% of 67+ million.

On January 21, < 10% vaccinated, so 60+ million unvaccinated people didn't die from covid.

Yet it is still ongoing, not fear mongering it is facts. What do you not like about facts?.

[KhunLA]

Facts are good, when in perspective. They only talk about the ones that die. Headliner stuff.
Bleeds it leads, sex sells

When stated in per capita, it does paint a different picture. What sounds scarier:
14,621 Thais have died from Covid ... Get your attention headliner

You won't see these as headline:
0.0209 % of Thai population died from covid ... boring headliner
Or ... 99.07 % of Thais still alive ... just doesn't suck you in, or sell vaccines.

[buksida]

14,621 Thais have died from Covid ... Get your attention headliner

More Thais have died on the roads in the past year than have of Covid in total.

Now there is a scary headline.

[Big Boy]

Actually, only 9,387 have died on Thai roads this year.

[KhunLA]

That is one good thing about covid, this year anyway. Kept people off the roads. Wonder if no alcohol sales (bars/restaurants) had anything to do with that.

Covid has passed drownings , as 1500 (corrected) a year drown. That sucks, as most are kids.
At least covid deaths are mostly those 60+ and on borrowed time to begin with.