Covid-19 News & Updates

Temporary sub-forum for all news, updates, developments and discussion on Coronavirus/Covid-19 in Hua Hin, Thailand and globally. Any and all topics on the outbreak will be moved into this forum for ease of information access.
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Thank you sateeb :thumb: .

So spray and wipe of small surfaces, whilst not ideal, would have the same effect.

Can anybody explain the difference between disinfectant at point one and alcohol disinfectant at point 2? Does this alcohol disinfectant have any brand name?

[Edit] We are using Dettol, but I'm wondering if we should be using something else.
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Spray and wipe would certainly work. I think the point being made is that brandishing a spray around is ineffective.
Regarding the alcohol in disinfectant. I just copied that from somewhere. I'm sure soap/bleach and water does the same job.
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This is an interesting site for the British, It shows the covid-1 deaths by postcode,
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lindosfan1 wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:09 pm This is an interesting site for the British, It shows the covid-1 deaths by postcode,
Well, it was a surprise to learn that one died in April in my postcode. I'm wondering now if it was someone I knew?
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The numbers continue to grow, its numbing--41,000 deaths in the UK 1 in every 1600.

On April 28 US hit 582000 The same as the number of American deaths in VN war--today it hit 116,400 DOUBLE the number of deaths of Americans in VN War!!
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Why compare this to war deaths and not previous pandemics?

United States
1968 Pandemic (H3N2 virus) 100,000 deaths.
1957-1958 Pandemic (H2N2 virus) 116,000 deaths. Adjusted for today’s population would be 221,000
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Sensationalism
Shock factor

Not the same if you compare it with 'flu for example:

Headline: "Covid causes twice as many deaths as 'flu"

Headline: "More deaths from Covid than in the whole of the Vietnam war"

Both true. But which one shocks the most?
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Boris Johnson 'scrapped Cabinet pandemic committee six months before coronavirus hit UK'
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... ix-months/

"...the Threats, Hazards, Resilience and Contingency Committee (THRCC) - was suspended by former prime minister Theresa May on the advice of Cabinet Secretary Sir Mark Sedwill so that civil servants and ministers could focus on Brexit.
The Government committee, which included Cabinet ministers such as Matt Hancock, the Health Secretary, Michael Gove and Gavin Williamson, was abolished by Mr Johnson a few days after he entered Downing Street. The committee was axed without discussing virus control plans."
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5 more new cases today, all from quarantine. Thailand has been 'virus free' for 19 days!

[Mod Edit] You reported virus free for 18 days yesterday, so have amended to 19.
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Thanks. Last case 25th May, so you're correct.
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Mutation could make coronavirus more infectious, study suggests

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/12/heal ... index.html

(CNN)Researchers in Florida say they believe they have shown that the new coronavirus has mutated in a way that makes it more easily infect human cells.

They say more research is needed to show whether the change has altered the course of the pandemic, but at least one researcher not involved in the study says it likely has, and the changes may explain why the virus has caused so many infections in the United States and Latin America.

It's a mutation that scientists have been worried about for weeks.

The researchers at the Scripps Research Institute in Florida said the mutation affects the spike protein -- a structure on the outside of the virus that it uses to get into cells. If the findings are confirmed, it would be the first time someone has demonstrated that changes seen in the virus have significance for the pandemic.

"Viruses with this mutation were much more infectious than those without the mutation in the cell culture system we used," Scripps Research virologist Hyeryun Choe, who helped lead the study, said in a statement.

Just this week, the World Health Organization said the mutations seen so far in the new coronavirus would not affect the efficacy of vaccines under development. Last week, WHO said mutations had not made it more easily transmissible, nor had they made the virus more likely to cause serious illness.

A more stable spike protein

Choe and colleagues ran a series of experiments in lab dishes that show a mutation called D614G gives the virus many more spikes, and makes those spikes more stable. That in turn make it easier for it to get into cells. The researchers will post their findings on a preprint server called BioRxiv. That means the work has not been reviewed by other experts in the field.

But Choe and colleagues did send their paper to William Haseltine, a virologist, biotechnology entrepreneur and chairman of Access Health International. Haseltine believes the findings explain the easy spread of the coronavirus across the Americas.

"It is significant because it shows the virus can change, does change to its advantage and possibly to our disadvantage," Haseltine told CNN. "It has done a good job so far of adapting to human culture," he added.

"You can see in some places it doesn't get very far and in other places it has a field day."

Scientists have been freely sharing the sequences of the virus which, like all viruses, mutates constantly. "Sometime in the middle of January, there was a change that allowed the virus to become more infectious. It doesn't mean it's more lethal," Haseltine said. "It makes it about 10 times more infectious."

Other researchers have suspected this. In April, Bette Korber of Los Alamos National Laboratory and colleagues published their concerns, also on BioRxiv, calling the D614G mutation "of urgent concern" because it had become by far the most common strain spreading in Europe and the US.

Dominant strain

"It began spreading in Europe in early February, and when introduced to new regions it rapidly becomes the dominant form," they wrote.

But more work was needed to show that it just wasn't an accident that caused viruses with the D614G mutation to become the most common forms.

Haseltine said the Scripps team showed this in three separate experiments.

"They measured this in three very elegant ways, not just one," he said.

The mutation allows the virus not only to attach to cells more easily, but to enter them more easily.
When viruses infect, they hijack their victim's cells and turn them into viral factories, pumping out copy after copy of viruses.

They first must find a way into cells to do this.

Korber, who has a different analysis under consideration for publication, said "it was nice to see the result," but did not comment further to CNN.

Haseltine said the implications are important. Other researchers had hoped that the coronavirus would not prove to be as prone to mutation as other viruses that use RNA instead of DNA as their genetic material. Influenza, notorious for its mutations, is an RNA virus.

"It means that we have to be on the alert for constant change," Haseltine said.

"This virus is going to respond to whatever we do to control it. We make a drug, it is going to resist it. We make a vaccine, it is going to try to get around it. We stay at home, it is going to figure out how to hang around longer," he said.
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This theory has raised it's head a number of times without the necessary evidence. Each time, it's been pretty well debunked. Even this one admits that more research is necessary. It remains a theory.

Viruses mutate as they evolve. Some evolve rapidly and some more slowly. Covid 19 is one of the slow ones. Mutations can hamper a vaccine and although a mutation can cause easier transmission, it's quite rare. To date, from the majority of labs, there is no evidence of a more infectious mutation. It's important to learn how the virus is mutating in order to develop an effective vaccine.

The 'flu virus mutates rapidly which is why several modified vaccines are developed each year. These are developed in advance using the history to predict how the virus will mutate during the coming year. Sometimes it's close and sometimes not. The 'flu vaccine for 2020 is not a good match so the vaccine is less effective.
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One more case today from state quarantine as usual. If net zero tomorrow then it'll be a full 3 weeks since any discovery of the virus in Thailand..... and I still can't have a drink and a game of pool!!
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Only hope for foreigners locked out of Thailand as easing continues with strict controls on entry
The pain and anguish being suffered by members of Foreigner Thai families, a larger community than first thought of before this crisis, at being denied access to Thailand has been communicated to the kingdom’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs by western ambassadors in Bangkok and a range of representative bodies. It is through this route and perhaps not with an opening up to tourism, that many foreigners may first get the chance to be reunited with their loved ones. It could well be until the end of this year before anything like normal access to the kingdom resumes.

The Thai government announced this week the end of the night-time curfew from June 15th and the availability of alcohol in restaurants or licenced eateries. However, the current easing of coronavirus restrictions within Thailand will not extend to an opening of the kingdom or any semblance of what used to be normal access within the next few months or possibly until the end of the year. This is the current outlook.

The best hope for those seeking access to families and loved ones in Thailand is that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs will, at some point, allow applications to enter from foreigners with links to the country under restricted and exceptional conditions including a 14-day alternative quarantine requirement currently priced at between ฿45,000 and ฿100,000 per person. However, the good news is that it does look like that such access may occur before tourism resumes and be accompanied by limited access for international flights.

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My daughter is still trapped in the US. Fortunately, she's registered with USCIS who have extended her stay until such time as she can leave. The Thai Embassy is of no help because although she's a Thai citizen, she's in the US on a British passport so as far as the embassy is concerned, she's not Thai.
We're still waiting on clarification of her options.
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