The best way to influence Thai authorities (In My Opinion), is to ask questions?
i.e.
Why are people allowed to drive down the wrong side of the street?
What is the minimum age for driving a motor cycle?
Is it law you must wear a helmet when driving a motor bike?
What is the speed limit on Phetkasem Road?
If I see someone driving dangerously, what should I do?
The questions in themselves imply something is wrong without risking authorities losing face and becoming defensive.
Too many people dying too many accidents
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[quote="Jockey"]The best way to influence Thai authorities (In My Opinion), is to ask questions?
i.e.
Why are people allowed to drive down the wrong side of the street?
What is the minimum age for driving a motor cycle?
Is it law you must wear a helmet when driving a motor bike?
What is the speed limit on Phetkasem Road?
If I see someone driving dangerously, what should I do?
The questions in themselves imply something is wrong without risking authorities losing face and becoming defensive.[/quote]
Very Good questions there Jockey!
The Main problem is the conveniency of having a Motorbike or cylce you just hop up, Keys in, engine up and off you go. The importance would be to tell the people the importance of putting a helmet on. The 10 to 15 seconds they loose by putting on a helmet is a 50% guaranty of lesser impact on head inhuries which can be easily simulated by letting a Watermelon drop unprotected by a helmet with the same velovity as the accidents that accur the reapeat the same procedure with a helmet. and the other 25% comes from safe driving that can be though graduallly by time!!!
If these questions are asked and things will be done to increase Road safety on the Roads and Streets of Hua Hin I think in six months or and Hua Hin can be a role model of Public safety!
i.e.
Why are people allowed to drive down the wrong side of the street?
What is the minimum age for driving a motor cycle?
Is it law you must wear a helmet when driving a motor bike?
What is the speed limit on Phetkasem Road?
If I see someone driving dangerously, what should I do?
The questions in themselves imply something is wrong without risking authorities losing face and becoming defensive.[/quote]
Very Good questions there Jockey!
The Main problem is the conveniency of having a Motorbike or cylce you just hop up, Keys in, engine up and off you go. The importance would be to tell the people the importance of putting a helmet on. The 10 to 15 seconds they loose by putting on a helmet is a 50% guaranty of lesser impact on head inhuries which can be easily simulated by letting a Watermelon drop unprotected by a helmet with the same velovity as the accidents that accur the reapeat the same procedure with a helmet. and the other 25% comes from safe driving that can be though graduallly by time!!!
If these questions are asked and things will be done to increase Road safety on the Roads and Streets of Hua Hin I think in six months or and Hua Hin can be a role model of Public safety!
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Re: Too many people dying too many accidents
I'd suggest you to go back to the Country where you come from,Jockey wrote:Enough is enough! Hua Hin bikers have the mentality this is still a small fishing village which you can safely shoot about any old way on your motor bikes without coming to harm. It needs to stop! Too many people are dying. Too many people are having accidents. Hua Hin (population 45,000) has more road accident deaths per year than the whole of Ireland (population 4,500,000). Thousands more are severely injured. The roads are littered with police white chalk marks where the most recent accidents have occured.
Here are 10 things that the police should enforce:
1. Everyone forced wear helmets. On the spot fines or bike confiscated.
2. Children should not be allowed to ride motor bikes. Bikes should be confiscated and children taken home by police.
3. Traffic lights should continue after 10 pm. What joker decided it would be a good idea to stop the lights at 10?
4. Bikes traveling down the wrong side of the road should be stopped and riders given an instant fine. If they haven't any money - bikes confiscated.
5. Drivers in cars driving down the wrong side of the road should be arrested and put in jail!
6. Trucks speeding down Phetkasem road should be stopped and given instant fines.
7. All motor bike taxis should be instructed to insist passengers wear helmets (or lose their license)
8. Motor bikes drivers should have licenses having passed road tests.
9. Vehicles with inappropriate loads should be stopped and the driver fined.
10. Why are vehicles allowed to be driven in the dark!!!!
A major campaign should be organised to raise awareness of road safety.
I may not be a Thai citizen, but I do pay taxes, including road tax so deserve to have a say! Concern for peoples lifes, particularly childrens, is everyones concern!
How about a HHAD ROAD SAFETY AWARENESS CAMPAIGN?
If you have such a problem with these things!!
All this damn stupid Laws.. pfff
I actually don't give a s***, I wear a helmet on day, when I have to pass the roads where the police are, but for sure I wouldn't wear it, if there's no one controlling, because it's ******* HOT!! The brain's getting cooked, that's the reason why we (thais) or (farangs too), don't wear helmets.
At Night it's not dangerous anymore anyway, sure they die a lot, because all farangs are almost in the same place, no wonder there are so many accidents. After 10pm they close the red lamps, because almost no one is driving there anymore, just try to keep open your eyes, and pay attention, that's all.
And the fine is anyway a joke.. haha
Got stopped like 5x already because I didn't wear a helmet, so what?!
I never pay this s***, because they won't follow you, just because of 200 bahts.
About the driving at wrong side, it's mostly only some meters, THAIS don't have a problem with it, because they grow up and know how to drive, but there always have to come some stupid Farang complaining about this and that, I HATE IT!
(I'm not blaming every farang, but you guys have to agree, there are really some *@!ç%") argh..
Watch out what you wish me to deserve, maybe it'll happen to you.buksida wrote:People with that attitude deserve to have their heads pasted across the asphalt under a siplor.
I'm just talking for some thai's now, the most can't read english so they don't comment, otherwise this would go on in a different way.
If I drive following your suggestions I'll probably deserve it too:ThaiStyle wrote: Watch out what you wish me to deserve, maybe it'll happen to you.
All this damn stupid Laws.. pfff
The brain's getting cooked, that's the reason why we (thais) or (farangs too), don't wear helmets.
At Night it's not dangerous anymore anyway
About the driving at wrong side, THAIS don't have a problem with it, because they grow up and know how to drive
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Re: Too many people dying too many accidents
Thaistyle - your post is so over the top I'm not sure your for real and its worthwhile recognising your contribution.
If I were to use your words "I'd suggest you to go back to the Country where you come from, if you have such a problem with these things!!" I'd be considered a racist.
If I came out with all the rest of the rubbish you wrote I'd be considered (worldwide), as an idiot. Brains aren't everything. In fact, in your case they're nothing!
Your heart and soul are made of glass and I can see right through you.
If I were to use your words "I'd suggest you to go back to the Country where you come from, if you have such a problem with these things!!" I'd be considered a racist.
If I came out with all the rest of the rubbish you wrote I'd be considered (worldwide), as an idiot. Brains aren't everything. In fact, in your case they're nothing!
Your heart and soul are made of glass and I can see right through you.
Yup, that post by Thaistyle has to rank as one of the most insane I've come across on this forum.
The normal BS about going back home if you don't like the laws. Personally, I see nothing wrong with the traffic laws over here - they closely resemble the UK's. It's the enforcement of them by the authorities and the total disregard for them by a lot of road users that are the problems.
In a country like the UK, where road traffic violations are strictly enforced these days, the number of annual road deaths and serious injuries has fallen dramatically. If you want stats, I'm sure I can find them. Unfortunately, the same success cannot be said of Thailand, although I will concede that the police are suggesting that they'll tougher. Time will tell.
People who blatently disregard driving laws and highway codes are a menace, not only unto themselves but more importantly to other road users. Ignorant, selfish whatevers
And BTW, I'd be really interested to learn how many accidents happen during the night, as opposed to during the day. So much for "safe at night". Sure there's less traffic, but it's spot the policeman after sundown and so the drunken drivers and those not interested in obeying the laws and carry on with a total lack of consideration for others reign supreme.
The normal BS about going back home if you don't like the laws. Personally, I see nothing wrong with the traffic laws over here - they closely resemble the UK's. It's the enforcement of them by the authorities and the total disregard for them by a lot of road users that are the problems.
In a country like the UK, where road traffic violations are strictly enforced these days, the number of annual road deaths and serious injuries has fallen dramatically. If you want stats, I'm sure I can find them. Unfortunately, the same success cannot be said of Thailand, although I will concede that the police are suggesting that they'll tougher. Time will tell.
People who blatently disregard driving laws and highway codes are a menace, not only unto themselves but more importantly to other road users. Ignorant, selfish whatevers
And BTW, I'd be really interested to learn how many accidents happen during the night, as opposed to during the day. So much for "safe at night". Sure there's less traffic, but it's spot the policeman after sundown and so the drunken drivers and those not interested in obeying the laws and carry on with a total lack of consideration for others reign supreme.
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on the drunk driving thing
was looking at thai global tv other day
somewhere in the south they were breatalizing all the drivers
looked like a modern breatalyser too is theis something new??
as my thai is not good i dont know where it was but the pictures told the story
was looking at thai global tv other day
somewhere in the south they were breatalizing all the drivers
looked like a modern breatalyser too is theis something new??
as my thai is not good i dont know where it was but the pictures told the story
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Lomu i agree with what you say but i dont think you can compare the UK with thailand. You can drive for days in the UK and not see a single motorbike of any size.
Here you cant walk 3 steps without having to walk round one.
Also i would bet that the stats for bikes to 4 wheel vehicles in the UK would be opposite to here.
That means it needs more education what to me is ironic when i took my M/C test i was told i could only fail if I failed to put the helmet on before getting on the bike or taking it of before I got of the bike.
If (and if is a very big word) Thaistyle is Genuinely thai i will say i have heard thais say similar which is why i agree with jockey we are guests guests do not demand they request politely i also believe the solid logic of it will win the day eventually
Here you cant walk 3 steps without having to walk round one.
Also i would bet that the stats for bikes to 4 wheel vehicles in the UK would be opposite to here.
That means it needs more education what to me is ironic when i took my M/C test i was told i could only fail if I failed to put the helmet on before getting on the bike or taking it of before I got of the bike.
If (and if is a very big word) Thaistyle is Genuinely thai i will say i have heard thais say similar which is why i agree with jockey we are guests guests do not demand they request politely i also believe the solid logic of it will win the day eventually
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Breathalysers have been here for years and I'm sure the legal limit is 50 milligrams - as opposed to 80 in the UK. So, not a lot really. A couple of large Changs will be sure to take you over that limit.
I'm not certain how often they're used though. A few years ago, I was with a friend down south near Phuket and he said the police there were getting very active about it. On a first offence, a farang can expect a big fine and some time in the money house. On a second, it's local prison time and possible deportation. (I'm sure I remember that right). Quite what the penalties can be for a Thai, I'm not sure.
I'm not certain how often they're used though. A few years ago, I was with a friend down south near Phuket and he said the police there were getting very active about it. On a first offence, a farang can expect a big fine and some time in the money house. On a second, it's local prison time and possible deportation. (I'm sure I remember that right). Quite what the penalties can be for a Thai, I'm not sure.
Fair enough, Sarg. A fair observation, but I wasn't being specific to bikes. More overall accident stats. You're quite right in what you say. The roads are mobbed out with bikes at particualr times of the day here, so there will naturally be more incidents involving them than cars etc. Also agree that with saftey in mind, the need for education to ride one correctly and safely is vital. If people think they can get away with flouting the laws, serious accidents will always happen in large numbers.sargeant wrote:Lomu i agree with what you say but i dont think you can compare the UK with thailand. You can drive for days in the UK and not see a single motorbike of any size.
Here you cant walk 3 steps without having to walk round one.
Also i would bet that the stats for bikes to 4 wheel vehicles in the UK would be opposite to here.
That means it needs more education what to me is ironic when i took my M/C test i was told i could only fail if I failed to put the helmet on before getting on the bike or taking it of before I got of the bike.
If (and if is a very big word) Thaistyle is Genuinely thai i will say i have heard thais say similar which is why i agree with jockey we are guests guests do not demand they request politely i also believe the solid logic of it will win the day eventually
As far as the guest thing is concerned, I'll agree that we can make no demands, but as my wife is Thai I think i have a vested interest in questioning things like this. She's gone off to see here family. Note the time of this post. It'll be chaos out there with a large %age of people totally disregarding motoring laws. I'd hate to think that she had an accident caused by some 12 year old on a bike. I would get a bit upset about that - guest or not.
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wow good too know thnaks for imformation like to have a beer with food when dineing out wont be having two wait till i get homelomuamart wrote:Breathalysers have been here for years and I'm sure the legal limit is 50 milligrams - as opposed to 80 in the UK. So, not a lot really. A couple of large Changs will be sure to take you over that limit.
I'm not certain how often they're used though. A few years ago, I was with a friend down south near Phuket and he said the police there were getting very active about it. On a first offence, a farang can expect a big fine and some time in the money house. On a second, it's local prison time and possible deportation. (I'm sure I remember that right). Quite what the penalties can be for a Thai, I'm not sure.
or be forced to tuk tuk home
any other expat have imformation on drink law in los?
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Actually you only need one rule -bozzman101 wrote:wow good too know thnaks for imformation like to have a beer with food when dineing out wont be having two wait till i get homelomuamart wrote:Breathalysers have been here for years and I'm sure the legal limit is 50 milligrams - as opposed to 80 in the UK. So, not a lot really. A couple of large Changs will be sure to take you over that limit.
I'm not certain how often they're used though. A few years ago, I was with a friend down south near Phuket and he said the police there were getting very active about it. On a first offence, a farang can expect a big fine and some time in the money house. On a second, it's local prison time and possible deportation. (I'm sure I remember that right). Quite what the penalties can be for a Thai, I'm not sure.
or be forced to tuk tuk home
any other expat have imformation on drink law in los?
Don't drink and drive
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