What visa to manage a beach wear shop in Hua Hin?

[splitlid]

Wow, from being an entrapreneur to beach bum in two and a half hours. That's got to be some kinda record.
Such is The Power of the Forum

[centermid7]

" I have come to the decision that I wont do any work only look at the shop every so and then."

It did not take you long to change your plans. I am curious is Dear Ol' Dad (who is putting up all the money) might have had a look at this thread or if you maybe consulted with him before you changed your mind? Or the girlfriend? Or the VERY successful feller in Pattaya? I'm sure everybody wants to fully informed and on board with the start up of the business.

Will DOD also be funding your visit?

[huahinjim]

. It is to late as we have already signed the lease and have contracted workers to repair the shop and fit it, and we have ordered stock.

Surely you should have been asking these questions before the lease was signed.

Good luck!

[Jose]

post a copy of your dads girlfriends cv, then we can give a educated view.

also the expat you mentioned in Pattaya, is he making any money from your dad, either from stock purchases or a franchise.

One of the first rules in Thailand is not believe anything anyone tells you, especially expats and their income.

[matthewnoel]

a pathetic post,dream on.

[HHTel]

I'll reproduce the reserved occupations list here so you don't have to look it up. Notice 'front shop sales'. That means only Thais can work in the shop selling goods. You're not allowed to work in that field with or without a work permit.

Under the Alien Employment Act, the following occupations are closed to foreigners and is reserved for Thai nationals only:
Labor work except labor work in fishing boats under the next category below.
Agriculture, animal husbandry, forestry or fishery, except work requiring specialized knowledge, farm supervision, or labor work in fishing boats, particularly marine fishery.
Bricklaying, carpentry, or other construction work.
Wood carving.
Driving motor vehicles or vehicles which do not use machinery or mechanical devices, except piloting international aircraft.
Front shop sale.
Auction sale work.
Supervising, auditing, or giving service in accountancy, except occasional internal auditing.
Cutting or polishing precious or semi-precious stones.
Haircutting, hairdressing, or beautification.
Cloth weaving by hand.
Mat weaving or making utensils from reed, rattan, jute, hay, or bamboo.
Making rice paper by hand.
Lacquer work.
Making Thai musical instruments.
Niello work.
Goldsmith, silversmith, or gold-and-copper alloy smith work.
Stone work.
Making Thai dolls.
Making mattresses or quilts.
Making alms bowls.
Making silk products by hand.
Making Buddha images.
Knife making.
Making paper or cloth umbrellas.
Making shoes.
Making hats.
Brokerage or agency except in international trading.
Professional civil engineering concerning design and calculation, systemization, analysis, planning, testing, construction supervision, or consulting services, excluding work
requiring specialized techniques.
Professional architectural work concerning design, drawing-making, cost estimation, or consulting services.
Dressmaking.
Pottery.
Cigarette rolling by hand.
Tour guiding or conducting.
Hawking of goods.
Thai typesetting by hand.
Unwinding and twisting silk by hand.
Clerical or secretarial work.
Providing legal services or engaging in legal work (except arbitration work sand work relating to defense of cases at arbitration level, provided the law governing the dispute
under consideration by the arbitrators is not Thai law)s

[heartofmidlothian]

Corbin, as I am sure you now realise, they can be a negative bunch on this forum. Go for it and see if it works and I can understand that your dad wants you there to manage the funds and to make sure everything is done right. If it works in Pattaya then no reason why it should not work in Hua Hin, although Pattaya is a lot busier though. Wish you the best and it will be an adventure.

[jingjoe]

realism does sometimes get cast as negativism,but best to be forewarned.
The fact is,its very hard to run any successful business here and make a western style profit(not $300 or $400 a month),a lot of guys just buy their girlfriends/wives businesses to keep them occupied,if it breaks even most guys are happy.The government wants westerners with deep pockets who spend lots of money here and leave,they almost go out of their way to discourage any thing else.
Come over and enjoy thailand at 18yo go to the islands and hang out with the backpackers.You will meet people your own age and have a blast...don't get stuck in hua hin with us old miserable folk who have nothing better to do do than get on the keyboards and knock the wind out of the sails of the young entrepreneurs who come on here.

[dtaai-maai]

Corbin, as I am sure you now realise, they can be a negative bunch on this forum.

There's a lot of practical (and cautionary) advice in amongst the negativity on this thread, though you do get the sense of a bit of a stomping in the making... I'd say we're mostly cynical rather than negative.

With that in mind, I confess my own response to the OP was to see if the username was on a list of known spammers!

But he appears genuine, and seems to be handling the responses with a mature degree of restraint for an 18-yr-old. What does the OP have to lose? Not much, apart from his Dad's money, and for all we know, his dad may be rolling in it and quite happy to risk a paltry few grand on keeping his gf happy and giving his son a little responsibility.

My own advice, for what it's worth, would be to treat this is as a golden opportunity to get some life experience for a year or two, avoid falling in love at all costs, and then go back to Oz and get a degree.

[StevePIraq]

I'll reproduce the reserved occupations list here so you don't have to look it up. Notice 'front shop sales'. That means only Thais can work in the shop selling goods. You're not allowed to work in that field with or without a work permit.

Under the Alien Employment Act, the following occupations are closed to foreigners and is reserved for Thai nationals only:
Labor work except labor work in fishing boats under the next category below.
Agriculture, animal husbandry, forestry or fishery, except work requiring specialized knowledge, farm supervision, or labor work in fishing boats, particularly marine fishery.
Bricklaying, carpentry, or other construction work.
Wood carving.
Driving motor vehicles or vehicles which do not use machinery or mechanical devices, except piloting international aircraft.
Front shop sale.
Auction sale work.
Supervising, auditing, or giving service in accountancy, except occasional internal auditing.
Cutting or polishing precious or semi-precious stones.
Haircutting, hairdressing, or beautification.
Cloth weaving by hand.
Mat weaving or making utensils from reed, rattan, jute, hay, or bamboo.
Making rice paper by hand.
Lacquer work.
Making Thai musical instruments.
Niello work.
Goldsmith, silversmith, or gold-and-copper alloy smith work.
Stone work.
Making Thai dolls.
Making mattresses or quilts.
Making alms bowls.
Making silk products by hand.
Making Buddha images.
Knife making.
Making paper or cloth umbrellas.
Making shoes.
Making hats.
Brokerage or agency except in international trading.
Professional civil engineering concerning design and calculation, systemization, analysis, planning, testing, construction supervision, or consulting services, excluding work
requiring specialized techniques.
Professional architectural work concerning design, drawing-making, cost estimation, or consulting services.
Dressmaking.
Pottery.
Cigarette rolling by hand.
Tour guiding or conducting.
Hawking of goods.
Thai typesetting by hand.
Unwinding and twisting silk by hand.
Clerical or secretarial work.
Providing legal services or engaging in legal work (except arbitration work sand work relating to defense of cases at arbitration level, provided the law governing the dispute
under consideration by the arbitrators is not Thai law)s

Interesting list however there are a number of positions above were a foreigner "somehow" can work, I personally know a goldsmith, jeweler, lawyer, architect and numerous engineers, some are self employed some on employment visa's.

[richard]

Tour guiding or conducting.

Well that baffles me. I know a few farangs who are involved in tourism. ??????

Travel agent/advisers
Golf holiday guides and transporters.

Is the thin line regarding these called management not doers?

[Farang]

Corbin, as I am sure you now realise, they can be a negative bunch on this forum.

There's a lot of practical (and cautionary) advice in amongst the negativity on this thread, though you do get the sense of a bit of a stomping in the making... I'd say we're mostly cynical rather than negative.

With that in mind, I confess my own response to the OP was to see if the username was on a list of known spammers!

But he appears genuine, and seems to be handling the responses with a mature degree of restraint for an 18-yr-old. What does the OP have to lose? Not much, apart from his Dad's money, and for all we know, his dad may be rolling in it and quite happy to risk a paltry few grand on keeping his gf happy and giving his son a little responsibility.

My own advice, for what it's worth, would be to treat this is as a golden opportunity to get some life experience for a year or two, avoid falling in love at all costs, and then go back to Oz and get a degree.

Best advise so far!

[kendo]

Corbin, as I am sure you now realise, they can be a negative bunch on this forum.

There's a lot of practical (and cautionary) advice in amongst the negativity on this thread, though you do get the sense of a bit of a stomping in the making... I'd say we're mostly cynical rather than negative.

With that in mind, I confess my own response to the OP was to see if the username was on a list of known spammers!

But he appears genuine, and seems to be handling the responses with a mature degree of restraint for an 18-yr-old. What does the OP have to lose? Not much, apart from his Dad's money, and for all we know, his dad may be rolling in it and quite happy to risk a paltry few grand on keeping his gf happy and giving his son a little responsibility.

My own advice, for what it's worth, would be to treat this is as a golden opportunity to get some life experience for a year or two, avoid falling in love at all costs, and then go back to Oz and get a degree.

Best advise so far!

I also agree with DM look upon this as an adventure and tell your old fella to only invest what he can afford to loose.

[theprice01]

^ Best advice i think. I really hope your dad hasn't disposed of any Aussie assets to do business in the Land of Smirks.

I also wonder about this 'friend', maybe its actually 20,000 Bahts p/m (which is still more then what some bars make), i'm not trying to be funny, i just don't know of any (sole trader) business in Thailand making (profit or income) 20,000 £/$/€ p/m.

[Pleng]

Interesting list however there are a number of positions above were a foreigner "somehow" can work, I personally know a goldsmith, jeweler, lawyer, architect and numerous engineers, some are self employed some on employment visa's.

But does their work permit actually permit them to do the work they are engaging in? May be the case they have a permit to "manage" the business, not necessarily to do the front line work.