The iPhone thread

[richard]

Here you go Richard, this is best Phone review site.

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n8-review-523.php

Thanks Baa Baa

Nice to know though if anybody has bought one here in Thailand and how it shapes up

Any takers?

[richard]

OK

No response re the Nokia8 but my gurus in the UK are saying HTC or Blackberry. Any comments please for a smartphone dumbo?

Spec, reliability, functions, where to buy in HH etc

[BaaBaa.]

Richard, I've given you a link to a massive in depth review by people who try every phone under the sun.
Would you be happier with any old tard from HH saying "I does like the Nokia N8, tis good"

From the review it looks like a great phone, THE best camera phone on the market.

As for your next question, I think my next phone will be a HTC. Or a Samsung.

[pharvey]

I do have a ''Chinese" iPhone....... purely as it has 2 SIM Cards.

However, I'm not a great fan of the whole touch screen thing - also difficult to view in sunlight, which I would have thought is a fairly big negative in Thailand!!

Privately I don't need anything other than a phone that I can use as a ''phone''..... with SMS and I guess a camera as I must admit I've found that very handy at times.

Work-wise, I need email access, notes, pdf, Excel etc. etc. unfortunately.

I've got the Nokia E72, which I've found to be superb. Far better battery life than the iPhone, Qwerty keypad, superb camera, all the ''smart phone gizzmos'' and easy to use. Far less applications available than for the iPhone, but more than enough for what I need to do. All in all a far better phone IMHO.

[Super Joe]

I do have a ''Chinese" iPhone....... purely as it has 2 SIM Cards.

However, I'm not a great fan of the whole touch screen thing - also difficult to view in sunlight, which I would have thought is a fairly big negative in Thailand!!

I've tried the copy iPhones and the touchscreen facility just doesn't work properly, or anywhere near as effortlessly as an iPhone. I gave up the Samsung Omnia (think it was Samsung's first attempt at touchscreen) after a few days as it just wasn't properly responsive. Samsung's latest models are supposed to be the real deal thouh as BaaBaa mentions above.

Also with the screen it's probably down to the glass, the pucker glass they use has something in the make-up i think. I honestly never ever notice any glare, maybe I subconsciously adjust the angle I'm not sure, but I think the normal angle you hold them at they're almost perpendick...perpenndecu....perpendicoul... at right angles to the ground, so unless you had a low sun over your shoulder, or a wall light then it doesn't really notice. Think the ipad is more of a problem though as it's used at a lower angle, ie: more facing upwards.

Privately I don't need anything other than a phone that I can use as a ''phone''..... with SMS and I guess a camera as I must admit I've found that very handy at times.
Work-wise, I need email access, notes, pdf, Excel etc. etc. unfortunately.

Absolutely wouldn't bother getting one if just to be used as a phone or if need word, excel, multiple email attachments etc, that's something I'm getting hacked off with now. If using for phone, music, video, games, endless new apps, surfing and occassional personal email then they're probably just right.


This new Samsung Galaxy tablet is now on 3rd floor of MV



SJ

Perpendic-right angle explained

[chopsticks]

Another "glitch" from Apple resulting in the alarm clock setting failing to work :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12104890

[migrant]

Aha!! Just got off the phone with the wife, she said her alarm didn't go off (Iphone) and was almost late to work!!!

[STEVE G]

How can they get something as simple as an alarm wrong?
You can buy Nokia phones in supermarkets here for less than 40 Euros and the alarm will work every time.

[buksida]

Have a question about upgrading apps. Every time I look at the App Store it wants to update a bunch of my apps. Recently a few of these apps, such as Skype, have stopped working because I don't have the latest OS (most of the updates are to make apps run on iOS4).

I have an old 3G iPhone with iOS 3.1.3, I don't want to upgrade it to iOS 4 for a number of reasons:

1) It has less memory than a goldfish and is slow enough on the current OS, 4 will grind it to a halt.
2) I don't want Apple locking me out of my own telephone again.
3) iOS 3 works perfectly well so why would I want to change it.

Now the question is should I bother with these app upgrades? It seems like more and more apps won't work on my iPhone now so will the thing become obsolete in terms of app availability? Is it ok just to leave the app upgrade alert on without actually upgrading anything (and stick with the current working versions of my apps)?

[STEVE G]

If its slowing down a bit, you could always get one of these covers and go retro:
http://www.chipchick.com/2011/02/iphone ... -case.html

[Super Joe]

Now the question is should I bother with these app upgrades? It seems like more and more apps won't work on my iPhone now so will the thing become obsolete in terms of app availability? Is it ok just to leave the app upgrade alert on without actually upgrading anything (and stick with the current working versions of my apps)?

Yes, you can just stick with the current one's and just ignore the update requests. I do that a lot, especially with the old 'gimicky toy' apps that are good for a few laughs and then become embarrassing.

I have an old 3G iPhone with iOS 3.1.3, I don't want to upgrade it to iOS 4 for a number of reasons:
1) It has less memory than a goldfish and is slow enough on the current OS, 4 will grind it to a halt.
2) I don't want Apple locking me out of my own telephone again.
3) iOS 3 works perfectly well so why would I want to change it.

Don't want to defend Apple too much as there's a lot I hate about the interface limitations , but .....
1) I've found everything I use it for to be lightning quick once I stayed on the licensed version 9if that's the right term), no lag time at all like you get with other touchscreens, and no bugs/virus'/freeze-up's at all. Have never had anything but with MS, particularly this Win7, but I know a lot of these are my faults. I have had some of these problems when I unlocked/jailbroke an earlier iPhone, as you are using, and these unlicensed software apps are great, but are also the reason it slows up/crashes etc.

2) Doesn't happen on licensed versions obviously, but yeah was annoying when using a jailbroken iPhone, but I read loads of Windows Phone7 & Android phone users are getting locked out too after firmware updates. But they're getting it on licensed versions too, plus the OS's are constantly crashing. Windows7 phone OS is quite new though tbf.

3) Suppose that's a bit like saying Win95 works fine so why change to XP or Win7. It's got so many improvements, especially vers. 4.2, that it does make a hell of a difference. Here's some of them, but they do not all apply to your model though:
- Email: View all your email accounts new mail in one inbox view
- Multi-tasking: to a certain degree (not on your version though)
- Different font selections, 30 international keyboards & 50 languages added
- Folder structure added (massive one imo)
- Less need to use iTunes for tasks
- Unique SMS tones, so you know who's texting when you're sitting with the missus
- Word search on webpages
- Tracker (free) – If lost/stolen track device by GPRS. Remotely lock or delete your data. If found can re-instate data.
- Air Print – Print direct from device to printer wirelessly.
- Stream HD media wirelessly to TV/audio devices (won't work on Thai internet I don't suppose)

--Apple Infomercial Ends--

SJ

[buksida]

Richard, I moved all your posts to "Digital Surgery" where they belong, this thread is about iPhones.

SJ, thanks the reply, I could have downloaded an Apple brochure off their website though.

Only kidding, seriously though, you wouldn't put Windows 7 on an old computer designed for 2000/XP, hardware is not powerful enough to support it. Same principle applies here I guess, the 3G version only has 128 megs of RAM so iOS4 is very slow (according to reports online from those that have tried it).

What I have works grand now, (yeah I know its jail-broken), I dont actually use many of the non-approved apps. Its just that App Store ones that keep wanting to 'upgrade' then I get errors stating that they no longer work with my iOS3. Stay away from the 'update' button I guess ... at least until there are no apps left that will run on it and it becomes a shiny, expensive paperweight.

[Lung Per]

Has anyone bought an FM transmitter for iPhone (iPod) here in Hua Hin?
It's a small handy gadget that allows your iPhone or iPod to play on your car radio.
If so, where, price, and your product evaluation, please.
It's available on the internet but this is one of those gadgets that I like to see if works before I buy.

[Super Joe]

Only kidding, seriously though, you wouldn't put Windows 7 on an old computer designed for 2000/XP, hardware is not powerful enough to support it. Same principle applies here I guess, the 3G version only has 128 megs of RAM so iOS4 is very slow (according to reports online from those that have tried it).

There's reports here that the performance and bugs that the 3G had on iOS4 were fixed (mostly!?) in the 4.1 release, but I don't know as have the 3GS which didn't seem to get affected:
http://thenextweb.com/apple/2010/07/27/ ... units-yes/
http://www.cultofmac.com/apple-confirms ... -4-1/57472
But, think you're right, I wouldn't risk it either if it's working ok now.

Has anyone bought an FM transmitter for iPhone (iPod) here in Hua Hin?
It's a small handy gadget that allows your iPhone or iPod to play on your car radio.
If so, where, price, and your product evaluation, please.
It's available on the internet but this is one of those gadgets that I like to see if works before I buy.

No, but I had one in the UK on an earlier model and it worked great in car or home, brought it over here but it never 'connected' on the 3GS as the male end was not long enough, or in other words they designed the 3GS so that it wouldn't fit and you had to buy a new one.

Anyway, the best shop I've found in town for iPhone bits and pieces is a shop on 3rd floor of MV called 'Mobile Clinic'. Last phone shop unit, (ie: the proper built shop units on the outside edge), towards the back of MV, ie: movie/bowling end. There's one shop unit past it, a camera shop. Haven't asked about one, but they seem to have many accessories in there. There's a mini workshop at the back where they change glass screens and batteries for reasonable prices imo.

SJ

[PeteC]

Several times have tried to send a multimedia SMS (photo taken with the phone camera) via DTAC to an IPhone also subscribed to DTAC. No joy. Does this mean the IPhone will not accept multimedia files from a non-IPhone? Anyone have the same experience? I have not tried it in reverse yet. Pete