STROKE INFORMATION EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW.

[(buffalo) Bill]

Blood Clots/Stroke - They Now Have a Fourth Indicator, the Tongue


I will continue to forward this every time it comes around!


STROKE:Remember the 1st Three Letters....S.T.R.


My nurse friend sent this and encouraged me to post it and spread the word.
I agree.

If everyone can remember something this simple, we could save some folks.
Seriously..

Please read:

STROKE IDENTIFICATION:

During a BBQ, a friend stumbled and took a little fall - she assured everyone that she was fine (they offered to call paramedics) .she said she had just tripped over a brick because of her new shoes.

They got her cleaned up and got her a new plate of food. While she appeared a bit shaken up, Ingrid went about enjoying herself the rest of the evening

Ingrid's husband called later telling everyone that his wife had been taken to the hospital - (at 6:00 pm Ingrid passed away.) She had suffered a stroke at the BBQ. Had they known how to identify the signs of a stroke, perhaps Ingrid would be with us today. Some don't die. they end up in a helpless, hopeless condition instead.

It only takes a minute to read this...

A neurologist says that if he can get to a stroke victim within 3 hours he can totally reverse the effects of a stroke...totally. He said the trick was getting a stroke recognized, diagnosed, and then getting the patient medically cared for within 3 hours, which is tough.

RECOGNIZING A STROKE

Thank God for the sense to remember the '3' steps, STR . Read and Learn!

Sometimes symptoms of a stroke are difficult to identify. Unfortunately, the lack of awareness spells disaster. The stroke victim may suffer severe brain damage when people nearby fail to recognize the symptoms of a stroke.

Now doctors say a bystander can recognize a stroke by asking three simple questions:

S *Ask the individual to SMILE.
T *Ask the person to TALK and SPEAK A SIMPLE SENTENCE (Coherently)
(i.e. It is sunny out today)
R *Ask him or her to RAISE BOTH ARMS.

If he or she has trouble with ANY ONE of these tasks, call emergency numberimmediatelyand describe the symptoms to the dispatcher.

New Sign of a Stroke -------- Stick out Your Tongue

NOTE: Another 'sign' of a stroke is this: Ask the person to 'stick' out his tongue.. If the tongue is 'crooked', if it goes to one side or the other,that is also an indication of a stroke.

[fft100]

"A neurologist says that if he can get to a stroke victim within 3 hours..."

Is there any such person within 3 hours of HH ? Lets say 90 minutes given the time taken to identify the problem and getting through to some one who understands what the caller is talking about.

[caller]

A neurologist says that if he can get to a stroke victim within 3 hours he can totally reverse the effects of a stroke...totally. He said the trick was getting a stroke recognized, diagnosed, and then getting the patient medically cared for within 3 hours, which is tough.

Generally good advice, but I'm dubious of the above. My old man had a stroke lying in a hospital bed which my aunt recognised immediately. He received immediate and urgent attention. He died.

[MrPlum]

I've seen several articles relating to a Dr Christopher stating he never lost a patient to a heart attack. Here's one...

http://www.askahealer.com/prevent-heart-attacks.htm

Please always do your own research.

[Khundon1975]

I've seen several articles relating to a Dr Christopher stating he never lost a patient to a heart attack. Here's one...
"askahealer".

Please always do your own research.

I have gone to his site and read data etc. Click on signs of high Cholestrol, all you get is more ads for products, no info in what to look for.

Ok, maybe he can claim not to have lost a patient to MI, maybe that patient was under a Cardiologist as well, and it was under THAT Doctor, that the patient died, because the heart was beyond help from whatever drug or supplement.

I find it hard to believe, that in 35 years None of his patients had a fatal MI.
What are the odds of that???

Assuming he had on average 2000 on his books each year (most doctors have around (4000) is he saying that none of those patients died of an MI (heart attack) over 35 years??

Assuming that, 35 years ago he took on 2000 new patients, after 35 years NOT ONE PERSON out of that 2000 had died of a fatal MI.

This does not even allow for any patients taken on after the original 2000 in subsequent years.

You were correct when you said in your post, "Please always do your own research" Very good advice

I think I will stick to tried a tested "Drugs" from a heart specialist, who is not making money from me, buying his products.

[Khundon1975]

Blood Clots/Stroke - They Now Have a Fourth Indicator, the Tongue


I will continue to forward this every time it comes around!


STROKE:Remember the 1st Three Letters....S.T.R.


My nurse friend sent this and encouraged me to post it and spread the word.
I agree.

If everyone can remember something this simple, we could save some folks.
Seriously..

Please read:

STROKE IDENTIFICATION:

During a BBQ, a friend stumbled and took a little fall - she assured everyone that she was fine (they offered to call paramedics) .she said she had just tripped over a brick because of her new shoes.

They got her cleaned up and got her a new plate of food. While she appeared a bit shaken up, Ingrid went about enjoying herself the rest of the evening

Ingrid's husband called later telling everyone that his wife had been taken to the hospital - (at 6:00 pm Ingrid passed away.) She had suffered a stroke at the BBQ. Had they known how to identify the signs of a stroke, perhaps Ingrid would be with us today. Some don't die. they end up in a helpless, hopeless condition instead.

It only takes a minute to read this...

A neurologist says that if he can get to a stroke victim within 3 hours he can totally reverse the effects of a stroke...totally. He said the trick was getting a stroke recognized, diagnosed, and then getting the patient medically cared for within 3 hours, which is tough.

RECOGNIZING A STROKE

Thank God for the sense to remember the '3' steps, STR . Read and Learn!

Sometimes symptoms of a stroke are difficult to identify. Unfortunately, the lack of awareness spells disaster. The stroke victim may suffer severe brain damage when people nearby fail to recognize the symptoms of a stroke.

Now doctors say a bystander can recognize a stroke by asking three simple questions:

S *Ask the individual to SMILE.
T *Ask the person to TALK and SPEAK A SIMPLE SENTENCE (Coherently)
(i.e. It is sunny out today)
R *Ask him or her to RAISE BOTH ARMS.

If he or she has trouble with ANY ONE of these tasks, call emergency numberimmediatelyand describe the symptoms to the dispatcher.

New Sign of a Stroke -------- Stick out Your Tongue

NOTE: Another 'sign' of a stroke is this: Ask the person to 'stick' out his tongue.. If the tongue is 'crooked', if it goes to one side or the other,that is also an indication of a stroke.

What surprised me was, the symptoms of a stroke (CVA) can vary widely between men and women.

Google the following "stroke symptoms for women"

[MrPlum]

You were correct when you said in your post, "Please always do your own research" Very good advice

I think I will stick to tried a tested "Drugs" from a heart specialist, who is not making money from me, buying his products.

Come now. You are not thinking this through.

If you think heart specialists aren't making money from you, you are mistaken I believe the cost of a sachet of Cayenne Pepper is about 1 baht. a bit of a stretch with today's exchange rate I know

When you did your research did you check the properties of Cayenne which has been used for thousands of years? That way you are not dependent on the claims of one practitioner, one vendor or one internet article.

I'd also question your calculations since Dr Christopher only used the method during emergency house calls.

The risks to patients from death through heart surgery are higher than most people realize and the outcomes are not always as favourable as the medical media present. Your crack team of heart specialists with their drug cocktails are nowhere to be found until you actually get to the operating theatre. I would be mightily glad for them once I get there but as someone has said... in Hua Hin, your chances of getting emergency attention within 3 hours are not great. So while you are quickly being turned into a slobbering cabbage, what do you suggest people do in the interim?

If you know anything about Cayenne you will know it is used as an adjuvant to deliver other herbs around the body. 'Many herbalists believe that Cayenne is the most useful and valuable herb in the herb kingdom, not only for the entire digestive system, but also for the heart and circulatory system.'

How you approach your own health is your affair but I couldn't be quite so pleased with myself, deterring people from possible life-saving tips.

Who cares if a site IS selling a product. That's capitalism. If they were just selling products without the supporting information you would be complaining about that! Right?

Orthodox medicine sells me a shopping trolley full of overpriced chemicals every time I walk through their door. Most of us cough up without giving it a second thought. We don't apply the same critical standard to orthodox medicine that we are apparently to apply to natural methods, when pharma drugs have harmed millions. It's a psychosis that is beyond me. Maybe the childhood brainwashing that 'the Doctor knows best' stops us from further enquiry. Very convenient for the profit driven medical industry, (who brook no competition), but not particularly helpful to me.

Where the truth is concerned there will always be two sides of a coin. Ultimately it always boils down to what YOU believe.

The best defence against heart troubles is to take a little better care of yourself. Failing that, I keep a little emergency sachet of Cayenne powder (to make a hot tea) with me at all times.

Thanks to Bill for the useful info

[Khundon1975]

You were correct when you said in your post, "Please always do your own research" Very good advice

I think I will stick to tried a tested "Drugs" from a heart specialist, who is not making money from me, buying his products.

Come now. You are not thinking this through.

If you think heart specialists aren't making money from you, you are mistaken I believe the cost of a sachet of Cayenne Pepper is about 1 baht. a bit of a stretch with today's exchange rate I know

When you did your research did you check the properties of Cayenne which has been used for thousands of years? That way you are not dependent on the claims of one practitioner, one vendor or one internet article.

I'd also question your calculations since Dr Christopher only used the method during emergency house calls.

The risks to patients from death through heart surgery are higher than most people realize and the outcomes are not always as favourable as the medical media present. Your crack team of heart specialists with their drug cocktails are nowhere to be found until you actually get to the operating theatre. I would be mightily glad for them once I get there but as someone has said... in Hua Hin, your chances of getting emergency attention within 3 hours are not great. So while you are quickly being turned into a slobbering cabbage, what do you suggest people do in the interim?

If you know anything about Cayenne you will know it is used as an adjuvant to deliver other herbs around the body. 'Many herbalists believe that Cayenne is the most useful and valuable herb in the herb kingdom, not only for the entire digestive system, but also for the heart and circulatory system.'

How you approach your own health is your affair but I couldn't be quite so pleased with myself, deterring people from possible life-saving tips.

Who cares if a site IS selling a product. That's capitalism. If they were just selling products without the supporting information you would be complaining about that! Right?

Orthodox medicine sells me a shopping trolley full of overpriced chemicals every time I walk through their door. Most of us cough up without giving it a second thought. We don't apply the same critical standard to orthodox medicine that we are apparently to apply to natural methods, when pharma drugs have harmed millions. It's a psychosis that is beyond me. Maybe the childhood brainwashing that 'the Doctor knows best' stops us from further enquiry. Very convenient for the profit driven medical industry, (who brook no competition), but not particularly helpful to me.

Where the truth is concerned there will always be two sides of a coin. Ultimately it always boils down to what YOU believe.

The best defence against heart troubles is to take a little better care of yourself. Failing that, I keep a little emergency sachet of Cayenne powder (to make a hot tea) with me at all times.

Thanks to Bill for the useful info

MrPlum
The point I was trying to make, is that I would take the best medicines available to me from my Cardiologist first and not rely solely on the Cayenne powder to save me during an MI (Heart Attack) and I speak from experience as I have had 2 in the UK already.

The first thing I do, is take 300mg Asprin, GTN spray and wait for the Ambulance to arrive.

In the case of the mild MI I suffered in HH, I took the Asprin and my wife drove me to hospital, where they dosed me up with more asprin.
I was then, and still am, on a cocktail of drugs for my heart, some very cheap some very expensive.

Of course drug companies are out to make as much money as possible, what business is'nt, (inc all the ones in HH) and I agree maybe we are brainwashed into thinking only "modern wonder drugs" work, but would you rely on this product to save your life given the choice between the two options?

If double blind trials have been carried out, under strict controls, that prove his claims, then fine, I would become a believer in his product, but to "believe" requires a leap of faith. and I am not ready to take that jump.

Were any of his patients, who he believed were suffering from a "Heart Attack" tested for Enzyme levels in blood samples. or given ECGs to confirm his diagnosis?


Yes of course, any invasive procedure is fraught with danger, but each patient makes an informed decision based on what the surgeons tell them (inc mortality rates). No two operations are the same, and many complication can arise during the operation, some of which can be fatal to the patient.

Modern medicine and herbal medicine can never be an exact science, as there are so many variables involved.

There are many, many "herbal remedies" on the market that are effective, some of which I have used, as there are also many modern drugs that I would not take, as the side effects are to severe.

I was not trying to deter people from taking any medicine, I did however, voice my personal choice, other people are more than capable of making their own choice.

Thanks for your comments Mr Plum, on a very interesting subject.

[MrPlum]

Thanks for your comments Mr Plum, on a very interesting subject.

Likewise.

What's interesting is the Cayenne has the same vasodilation effect as the spray. You know it increases blood flow when after eating a hot curry your face goes red (mine does). Instant and improved circulation.

It might be useful to explain what GTN (nitroglycerine) is... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyceryl_t ... rmacology)

[Khundon1975]

Thanks for your comments Mr Plum, on a very interesting subject.

Likewise.

What's interesting is the Cayenne has the same vasodilation effect as the spray. You know it increases blood flow when after eating a hot curry your face goes red (mine does). Instant and improved circulation.

It might be useful to explain what GTN (nitroglycerine) is... wiki/Glyceryl_trinitrate_(pharmacology)

Mr Plum


I know, that when I first started taking Glyceryl Trinitrate, it gave me pounding headaches, which thankfully I do not get now.

I try to limit my use, as the problem of "tolerance" can reduce the effectiveness of GTN over time.

I was advised by my doctor, that, as with most nitrates, such as Isosorbide Mononitrate, they should not be taken with "The Little Blue " pills, luckily I'm not there yet.

Im sorry I have just realised we are wondering off the topic, which was STROKE INFORMATION EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW..

My apologies to Buffalo Bill.

[Khundon1975]

"A neurologist says that if he can get to a stroke victim within 3 hours..."

Is there any such person within 3 hours of HH ? Lets say 90 minutes given the time taken to identify the problem and getting through to some one who understands what the caller is talking about.

Good advice by (buffalo) Bill

Being able to spot the first signs of a stroke, and easy to remember.

The problem is, there are many types of stroke, most of which can be detected using BB's rules, however, some types are not so easy to detect.

Some types of "Stroke" can be mild, some types can be fatal within a few minutes, even with skilled doctors and drugs available, others take a few hours if left untreated, and unless you have access to sophisticated scanning equipment, such as MRI, SPECT, or PET scanners and highly skilled doctors and expensive drugs, your chances of a good prognosis are not high.

However, the one thing you can do is act quickly, once you know what to look for, and get to the nearest hospital ASAP.

I have had 2 MI's, I am diabetic, Iv'e had a Carotid Endarterectomy, and Peripheral Vascular Disease, so this puts me in the high risk group.

I have shown my wife the signs to look for, and she knows to hit the phone and dial 999.

When we were in HH, we had the symptoms and suspected cause, written in Thai, so she could give it to the doctors, and would not have to waste time explaining to the doctor, whilst she was worrying about me.

Luckly, now, we live just a few minutes from a major hospital, many people living in Thailand, don't have that privilege.

So take BB's advice, and also take a couple of minutes to teach your partner, if you have one, what signs to look for.

It could save your life.