Hope nobody's allergic to tear gas then.Activists also lit red and orange smoke flares in front of the gates to parliament to protest Pita’s suspension. They were warned by the police that they must stop or they could be breaking public health laws as people might be allergic to the smoke.
Thailand general election fundamentally flawed: Human Rights Watch
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From Prachthai English:
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Instead of making up scenarios to oust a democratically elected, honest human being.
Shouldn't the EC be sending the CC a complaint about the Deputy leader of the Bhumjaithai party that was advising Thai people to shoot each other?
Shouldn't the EC be sending the CC a complaint about the Deputy leader of the Bhumjaithai party that was advising Thai people to shoot each other?
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This is going to get ugly if Pua Thai capitulates and goes in with the generals to grab power ...
BLOCKED FROM POWER, 8-PARTY THAI COALITION SAYS IT WILL NEGOTIATE WITH CONSERVATIVE OPPONENTS
A coalition of Thai political parties, struggling to form a government after two failed attempts, announced Friday it would try again next week to persuade conservative parliamentary opponents to back it, and suggested it might consider removing its most progressive member which won May’s election.
The eight-party grouping met in Bangkok on Friday for the first time since a combined sitting of the House of Representatives and Senate on Wednesday voted to block Pita Limjaroenrat, leader of the progressive Move Forward Party, from becoming prime minister. Pita was rejected last week in a first vote on whether to name him prime minister, and was knocked out of contention on Wednesday when a procedural vote decided he could not be nominated a second time.
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Move Forward’s victory in May’s election was powered by a widespread desire, particularly among young people, for deep structural change in Thailand after nine years of military-aligned rule. The party also wants to reduce the influence of the military, which has staged more than a dozen coups since Thailand became a constitutional monarchy in 1932, and of big business monopolies.
Any move to cast the popular party into opposition, instead of government, could lead to a return of sustained street protests, and several demonstrations are planned for the coming days.
https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/202 ... opponents/
BLOCKED FROM POWER, 8-PARTY THAI COALITION SAYS IT WILL NEGOTIATE WITH CONSERVATIVE OPPONENTS
A coalition of Thai political parties, struggling to form a government after two failed attempts, announced Friday it would try again next week to persuade conservative parliamentary opponents to back it, and suggested it might consider removing its most progressive member which won May’s election.
The eight-party grouping met in Bangkok on Friday for the first time since a combined sitting of the House of Representatives and Senate on Wednesday voted to block Pita Limjaroenrat, leader of the progressive Move Forward Party, from becoming prime minister. Pita was rejected last week in a first vote on whether to name him prime minister, and was knocked out of contention on Wednesday when a procedural vote decided he could not be nominated a second time.
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Move Forward’s victory in May’s election was powered by a widespread desire, particularly among young people, for deep structural change in Thailand after nine years of military-aligned rule. The party also wants to reduce the influence of the military, which has staged more than a dozen coups since Thailand became a constitutional monarchy in 1932, and of big business monopolies.
Any move to cast the popular party into opposition, instead of government, could lead to a return of sustained street protests, and several demonstrations are planned for the coming days.
https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/202 ... opponents/
Who is the happier man, he who has braved the storm of life and lived or he who has stayed securely on shore and merely existed? - Hunter S Thompson
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Its a big risk for PT if they do a deal with the devil. Their supporters will probably turn on them. I think they will try and get through with the current coalition first. Prawit is keeping very quiet.
Talk is cheap
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Pravit wants to be PM. Every time you see a photo of him sleeping you know he's dreaming about it. He's rumoured to be trying to buy votes from members of MFP, PT, et al. He might have a hard time passing any legislation in Parliament though. Gas maybe, legislation not so much.
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Wow. So PT have already met with Anutin. Looks like the MFP will return to the backbenches and the PT will be guilty of brazenly ignoring their own supporters, who clearly voted against the regime that has ruled since 2019, of which Anutin was a major player.
Thai Doctors groups also dont want Anutin back and have issued a statement detailing his incompetence.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/po ... s-minister
It's getting warm.
Talk is cheap
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It's been said today that 90% of the electorate will accept the Pheu Thai forming a government with a coalition with the right wing.
"We've suffered 8 or 9 years under the junta. Another 4 years won't make much of a difference and the Senate loses it's voting power in May 2024 meaning that a future election will not include the Senate"
Whether that is the position of the younger generation remains to be seen.
"We've suffered 8 or 9 years under the junta. Another 4 years won't make much of a difference and the Senate loses it's voting power in May 2024 meaning that a future election will not include the Senate"
Whether that is the position of the younger generation remains to be seen.
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One upside to all of this, is the gooberment that will take power undemocratically, will be faced with a rapidly declining economy along with the huge problem of household debt that promises to be extremely problematic in the not too distant future.
The outlook is not good, and the awful people that have robbed the Thai people of their democratic choice will be blamed, justifiably, and not forgotten.
Along with Pheu Thai having very little support at the next election, I see the MFP cleaning up.....I would bet on 80%++
So I think, there is a silver lining to this very dark cloud.
The outlook is not good, and the awful people that have robbed the Thai people of their democratic choice will be blamed, justifiably, and not forgotten.
Along with Pheu Thai having very little support at the next election, I see the MFP cleaning up.....I would bet on 80%++
So I think, there is a silver lining to this very dark cloud.
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Of course, Thailand's junta-pandering media wont report on the protests ...
Protesters in the Thai capital calls on senators to approve vote winners’ choice for prime minister
Hundreds of people gathered Sunday in the Thai capital of Bangkok to demand that conservative senators stop blocking the naming of a prime minister belonging to a winning coalition formed from May’s general election, a stance that risks a potentially destabilizing political deadlock.
Protesters braved heavy rain to show their anger and frustration toward the members of the Senate, who were appointed by the military and pride themselves as defenders of traditional royalist values, which they believe are under threat.
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As many as 1,000 demonstrators took to Bangkok’s busy Asok intersection with umbrellas and raincoats. many shouting “Senators, get out!” Speakers at the peaceful rally also called for political parties in a coalition assembled by Move Forward not to “switch sides” by joining hands with other parties that supported the outgoing government of Prayuth Chan-ocha, who as army commander seized power in a 2014 coup and was returned as prime minister after the 2019 election.
Sombat Boonngam-anong, a veteran social activist who organized the rally, told the crowd that senators only have the right to vote yes, and described voting no as unconstitutional.
“You can only vote yes, because the people already said yes to the results. You don’t have the right to vote anything else,” he declared of the senators’ responsibilities.
https://apnews.com/article/prime-minist ... 6c5e5f11c5
They'll be joined by the red shirts if PT wants to go in with the junta parties or let fascists like Anutin and his right-wing mob in.
Protesters in the Thai capital calls on senators to approve vote winners’ choice for prime minister
Hundreds of people gathered Sunday in the Thai capital of Bangkok to demand that conservative senators stop blocking the naming of a prime minister belonging to a winning coalition formed from May’s general election, a stance that risks a potentially destabilizing political deadlock.
Protesters braved heavy rain to show their anger and frustration toward the members of the Senate, who were appointed by the military and pride themselves as defenders of traditional royalist values, which they believe are under threat.
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As many as 1,000 demonstrators took to Bangkok’s busy Asok intersection with umbrellas and raincoats. many shouting “Senators, get out!” Speakers at the peaceful rally also called for political parties in a coalition assembled by Move Forward not to “switch sides” by joining hands with other parties that supported the outgoing government of Prayuth Chan-ocha, who as army commander seized power in a 2014 coup and was returned as prime minister after the 2019 election.
Sombat Boonngam-anong, a veteran social activist who organized the rally, told the crowd that senators only have the right to vote yes, and described voting no as unconstitutional.
“You can only vote yes, because the people already said yes to the results. You don’t have the right to vote anything else,” he declared of the senators’ responsibilities.
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https://apnews.com/article/prime-minist ... 6c5e5f11c5
They'll be joined by the red shirts if PT wants to go in with the junta parties or let fascists like Anutin and his right-wing mob in.
Who is the happier man, he who has braved the storm of life and lived or he who has stayed securely on shore and merely existed? - Hunter S Thompson
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Pravit thinks not!
OPINION: SILENT SEMI-MILITARY COUP AND THE NORMALIZATION OF INDIRECT MILITARY RULE
https://www.khaosodenglish.com/opinion/ ... tary-rule/
The Bkk Post also reported that flour was thrown over Thamanat. Love to see some photo's of that!
Some protesters threw flour at Dr Cholnan and Capt Thamanat when they emerged from the meeting. The incident prompted both Pheu Thai and PPRP politicians to flee the scene through a back exit of the building.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/po ... -mfps-fate
Talk is cheap
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He makes some convincing arguments. Are the red shirts that blinkered that they'd accept military rule again just to get Thaksin's cronies back on the benches? Probably!
Who is the happier man, he who has braved the storm of life and lived or he who has stayed securely on shore and merely existed? - Hunter S Thompson
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This was yesterday but as expected PT has capitulated:
Pheu Thai dumps MFP, forming new coalition
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/po ... -coalition.
Thai election winner out of alliance aiming to form government
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/th ... r-AA1eFSZU
Shit is now approaching fan ... hoping the 25 million people that voted for both parties stand up because they're not getting anything close to what they voted for.
Pheu Thai dumps MFP, forming new coalition
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/po ... -coalition.
Thai election winner out of alliance aiming to form government
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/th ... r-AA1eFSZU
Shit is now approaching fan ... hoping the 25 million people that voted for both parties stand up because they're not getting anything close to what they voted for.
Who is the happier man, he who has braved the storm of life and lived or he who has stayed securely on shore and merely existed? - Hunter S Thompson
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^It's a mad outcome but probably a pragmatic solution under the present system as there is a case against MFP being investigated by the Election Commission under article 112. The most likely result of that is that any MFP led government wouldn't last more than a couple of months.
They should have just concertrated on getting the generals out and gone slower on other reforms.
They should have just concertrated on getting the generals out and gone slower on other reforms.
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Your final paragraph is so so true Steve -STEVE G wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:38 am ^It's a mad outcome but probably a pragmatic solution under the present system as there is a case against MFP being investigated by the Election Commission under article 112. The most likely result of that is that any MFP led government wouldn't last more than a couple of months.
They should have just concertrated on getting the generals out and gone slower on other reforms.
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Courage is grace under pressure and when circumstances change you change your mind.
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But what of their manifesto that peope voted for? Anyway, by being out of the coalition, it seems likely that the generals will be excluded as well. Sadly that means a seat at the top table for Anutin. But I suspect any new Government will be short lived, but will hopefully stay long enough to repeal the role of the senators, which MFP, if still in existrnce, will clearly back.
Talk is cheap