Did Covid Happen?

[hhinner]

Did it happen? Yep.

Is/Was it as serious as the world powers would have you believe? Debatable.

How was it in Northern Italy in early 2020 when there were no vaccines?

Mitigations were put in place. What would it have been like otherwise?

[handdrummer]

Did it happen? Yep.

Is/Was it as serious as the world powers would have you believe? Debatable.

How was it in Northern Italy in early 2020 when there were no vaccines?

Mitigations were put in place. What would it have been like otherwise?

Without the infamous double-blind test, we cannot know. We can only know what was and what is, and even what was is subject to memory.

[HHTel]

Let's just close this thread. People can only take so much bullshit.

[dtaai-maai]

Let's just close this thread. People can only take so much bullshit.

Oh let's not, I haven't had so much fun on the forum for ages. Come back, Mr Plum, all is forgiven.

[handdrummer]

Let's just close this thread. People can only take so much bullshit.

Oh let's not, I haven't had so much fun on the forum for ages. Come back, Mr Plum, all is forgiven.

Absolutely, there is no limit to the amount of bullshit people can take and spew. If it weren't for bullshit, we'd have to put up with horseshit.

[HuaHin61]

https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/news/ ... 9-vaccines

https://odysee.com/@rabbitresearch:3/10strategien:7

[sateeb]

World Council For Health, sounds good but in reality.....
Mysterious Medical Organizations Are Calling for an End to COVID Vaccines
Blandly-named pseudo-medical organizations are promoting bad science, discredited drugs, and creating an industry of COVID denial.
The World Council for Health (WCH) is in no way what it sounds like, which is of course exactly the point. The organization’s website is set up to look like a public health nonprofit: a clean layout, a cheery little logo—a graphic of a hand inside an apple, a heart inlay inside the hand—and a bland mission statement, which proclaims that the group is “a worldwide coalition of health-focused organizations and civil society groups that seek to broaden public health knowledge and sense-making through science and shared wisdom.” There’s also a sprinkling of stock photos, prominently featuring Black women and children.

In reality, the WCH is an umbrella group for purveyors of COVID misinformation. Its dozens of large and small “coalition partners,” among which are groups that are regularly in the headlines and ones working behind the scenes, are based all over the world. They share one thing: a devotion to casting doubt on COVID vaccines and promoting discredited treatments for the disease. In the past few months, the WCH has declared that COVID vaccines are “dangerous and ineffective,” released a nonsense guide to “spike protein detox” after vaccination (premised on the completely false idea that the vaccine somehow looses dangerous spike proteins in the body), misleadingly claimed that COVID vaccination is leading to increased heart issues in both adults and children, and called on its followers to be “the hands and feet of this global coalition” and deliver a petition against the vaccines to their local elected officials.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7nqm7/ ... d-vaccines

Nice try but collapsed at the final hurdle.

As for your other link..Nicht speaky das Deutsch.

I'm beginning to wonder if German, Austrian and Swiss volk are all mainly anti vaxxers as seems to be the case with the vast majority of these people I've had the misfortune to listen to their scheisse.

[HuaHin61]

oohhh wow, that is VICE.com see under Kritik in https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_(Magazin)

(de)
An Vice wird kritisiert, dass viele Inhalte oberflächlich bleiben und auf Provokation und Grenzüberschreitungen ausgerichtet sind.

Regelmäßig wird Vice für seine distanzlose Berichterstattung über Drogen kritisiert.
Die gleichlautende Rubrik stellt in der deutschsprachigen Ausgabe Online durchschnittlich ein Viertel aller Beiträge an einem durchschnittlichen Tag.
Die Hamburger Kontrollstelle für Jugendmedienangebote bemängelte auf eine Anfrage des NDR-Medienmagazins Zapp, dass negative Aspekte des Drogenkonsums als Teil der Freizeitgestaltung ausgeblendet werden, bis hin zu Anleitungen, wie man Drogen vor der Polizei versteckt.

(en)
Vice is criticized for the fact that much of the content remains superficial and is aimed at provocation and crossing borders.

Vice is regularly criticized for its indiscriminate reporting on drugs.
The column of the same name makes up an average of a quarter of all articles on an average day in the German-language online edition.
In response to a request from the NDR media magazine Zapp, the Hamburg control center for youth media offerings criticized the fact that negative aspects of drug use as part of leisure activities are ignored, right down to instructions on how to hide drugs from the police.

Well, if that's not a trustworthy site

[HuaHin61]

I have already written that there are people who would like to be injected with untested vaccines and who may endanger their health by doing so, and on the other hand there are people who do not want this.
the governments have managed, through propaganda, to make these groups irreconcilably opposed, "divide and rule" is the principle here,
and on the effects of propaganda there are enough books describing its exploitation and effects on the population.
politicians deliberately want to split parts of the population, then it is easier to govern
and not everyone recognizes this strategy. (propaganda and fear)

thread may be closed --- all interesting had been written already

[caller]

thread may be closed --- all interesting had been written already

Not by, or provided by you. You're just a purveyor of snake oil.

[pharvey]

[EDIT] By Post by HuaHin61 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:43 pm

"it is a fact that hospitals and doctors were encouraged by false financial incentives (simply money) to falsely diagnose Covid19, simply because it made more money.
Many people, who have died, so were counted as Covid19 dead, but there were not.

And the wrong statistics (freshly vaccinated are statistically unvaccinated up to 14 days after the vaccination) shows that people deliberately wanted to stir up panic and fear.

so, don't believe that statistics,
the pharmacy industrie want to sell much shots as possible, instead of that shots did not help, sometimes are dangerous"

Let's just close this thread. People can only take so much bullshit.

Oh let's not, I haven't had so much fun on the forum for ages. Come back, Mr Plum, all is forgiven.

Having suffered with it twice, additionally through Long Covid as I do now struggling to get back to work and having lost friends to the disease, it's an emotional subject. Sorry to say, I don't find much humour in it.

Indeed, there are many others in a worse position to myself both healthwise and financially (especially now in the UK and worldwide) - I'd rather not extract the urine however with absolute idiotic threads.... "Did Covid Happen?" - Seriously?

Really, did it? Oh of course not - I like hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of others decided to fuck ourselves up with tiredness, apathy, lung issues even organ failure. The body pain associated is not inconsiderable, though I have recently been diagnosed with another issue which may or may not be down to the Chinese made fun farm..... But all's good.

Those who have not suffered do not have a flying f****ing clue what it is like and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. Of course, there are far worse conditions, but it's not one to discount or belittle.

I'm good, but many others aren't - have some respect.

[EDIT 2] "Come back, Mr Plum, all is forgiven."

Oh, why not.....?

[Bamboo Grove]

My oldest nephew is a radiographer and has seen a lot of lungs infected by covid. He tells they look really awful. I don't think the pharmaceutical industry has paid anything to him so that he would tell to lie about what he's seen. By all means believe what you want and do what you want but to spread false information should be punishable

[pharvey]

My oldest nephew is a radiographer and has seen a lot of lungs infected by covid. He tells they look really awful.

By all accounts, the lungs have been the worst hit. I've been on different Inhalers which have truly helped me. Thankfully, my issues are now down to muscle strength and I hope to get back to work within a few months - others will not be so lucky.

Many continue to believe this is a non-existent disease. I beg to differ and truly hope it never raises it's ugly head again.

[lindosfan1]

My oldest nephew is a radiographer and has seen a lot of lungs infected by covid. He tells they look really awful.

By all accounts, the lungs have been the worst hit. I've been on different Inhalers which have truly helped me. Thankfully, my issues are now down to muscle strength and I hope to get back to work within a few months - others will not be so lucky.

Many continue to believe this is a non-existent disease. I beg to differ and truly hope it never raises it's ugly head again.

I was not going to say anything on this thread however you have prompted me. I hope you recover soon pharvey. I have to look at the disease in a different way, I already have a severe breathing problem now and in a mobility scooter, I was until covid started working in a job dealing with the general public, I had to give up work because of the danger of catching covid. Because the disease is still about I never meet anywhere indoors and only at a distance outside and cannot risk working.
Huahin61 should apologise for his comments, to me they are just crass stupidity, and insulting to anybody who has caught the disease and uncaring for anyone who has died from it.Is he man enough to do that? I doubt it.

[HuaHin61]

@ lindosfan1 and @ all,

the thread title "did COVID happen " is not mine,
it was created by a forum moderator (? BigBoy) because parts were extracted from another thread and moved here.

therefore the title is not in front of me, and I have not written to that meaning either, most of the entries are about the vaccinations and their effects or ineffectiveness and side effects

however, if anyone feels offended by my posts, I have no problem apologizing, i am sorry!

I wish everyone who is ill get well soon and hopefully full recovery.
I don't want to cause any trouble here.