Thailand Immigration: TM30 24 hour reporting thread

[derek60]

Seems to have gone quiet on the subject of TM30.

Is there now any clarity on whether non-Thais staying in their own property had to complete a TM30 for their stay?

Is setting up online TM30 reporting simple? For example do you need to prove ownership of your property? If so, how do you do this?

Is completion of TM30 now enforced by the Thai authorities?

Are there any indications of whether TM30 reporting will continue? Or be scrapped?

[oakdale160]

This idea has been stated many times before.
In western countries you need to ask one question--What is the Law, Rule or Regulation?

In Thai you must ask 2 questions.
1. What is the L.R or R?
2 Is it enforced?
and if the answer is Yes
3. (a) For a few weeks
(b) A few Months
(c) A year!!
(d) Until the next coup.

[hhinner]

^^ There's an immigration office in Pranburi?

[derek60]

Can you do online TM30 reporting AHEAD of arriving at the property? To save trying to do it within 24 hours of arriving when there are other things to wirry about?

[brightside]

Apologies to all for yet another TM30 question, but I haven't been able to find an answer, despite searching this and other forums. I am looking for advice on the best way to register TM30, given my circumstances.

I am the owner and I hold title to the building (I have the official stamped sale contract). However, I do not have the house blue book and it looks increasingly likely that obtaining the book will not be easy (long story). Other comments seem to indicate that to report TM30 as the owner of the building, it was necessary to provide a copy of the blue book . I'm not renting the properly of course, so there is no other landlord.

Until the current situation arrived, I have not stayed in Thailand for very long. My visa allows me continuous 90-day stays (lifetime 'SE' visa), which I have never made use of.

What are my options? Thanks.

[PeteC]

I think you need to consult a law firm: http://www.huahinmedia.com/chavalitfinch.php

You don't explain much but if you have inherited landed property, as a foreigner you have to sell it within 12 months of the inheritance. At least that's what the law stated previously which makes it even more important to consult an attorney to determine if the law has perhaps changed.

If that condition is still valid, the Blue Book will never be issued in your name as a foreigner.

The TM30 is the least of the problems I would think.

[lomuamart]

Just to add a comment regarding your visa situation.

You say you have a "lifetime SE visa". I don't think any such exists if by that you mean that it's a single entry visa (Maybe Non Immigrant O). That only gives you one entry of 90 days and that's it unless you annually extend it as most of us long-timers here do.

Maybe you have a multi-entry non O which means you have to exit every 90 days but that's only good for however long your visa lasts which is one year from date of issue.

There are also OA visas but again they eventually expire. Nothing is for "lifetime" here except residency which can be extremely difficult to obtain.

I would suggest you take a close look at exactly what type of visa you have.

EDIT Ah, I think "SE" refers to the Elite Visa in which case disregard what I've written above. If that's what you have, sorry for the confusion.

[Nereus]

TM30 reporting rule on foreigners eased

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... ners-eased

Property owners will no longer be required to report the presence of foreign tenants in their properties as often as they do now, starting from Tuesday.

Section 38 of the Immigration Act requires that property or hotel owners who take in foreigners as guests notify officials within 24 hours.

The Immigration Bureau has changed the reporting frequency to only when they arrive. They do not need to file the reports again if the guests leave the premises only temporarily and then return, or when they have multiple-entry visas or re-entry permits.

The bureau called the amendment "a move to end duplication".

Landlords are still required to report the arrivals of tenants within 24 hours or face a fine up to 10,000 baht.

The change followed complaints from operators about the need to repeatedly file reports on their foreign guests every time they arrive at their properties, and foreigners who were unable to get services at immigration offices without being able to prove that TM30s had been filed on their behalf.

Landlords include Thai and foreigners who own properties in Thailand, hotel managers and other accommodation operators.

They are required to file the reports at www.immigration.go.th website, or submit them in person or by mail to the immigration offices in their provinces, or the Immigration Division 1 Office at Government Complex on Chaeng Watthana Road in the case of Bangkok.

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And what if your relations or friends are staying with you? Are they regarded as "tenants"? Typical Thai BS!

[dtaai-maai]

The bureau called the amendment "a move to end duplication".

This is the start of a dangerous trend that should be eliminated before it catches on. 90-day reporting will become (officially) obsolete, annual renewals of extensions will become rubber-stamp jobs if there is no change of circumstances. The next thing you know it will no longer be necessary to photocopy and initial every page of your passport every time you want to buy a TV.
Think of the jobs that would be lost.

[Hahuahin]

The bureau called the amendment "a move to end duplication".

This is the start of a dangerous trend that should be eliminated before it catches on. 90-day reporting will become (officially) obsolete, annual renewals of extensions will become rubber-stamp jobs if there is no change of circumstances. The next thing you know it will no longer be necessary to photocopy and initial every page of your passport every time you want to buy a TV.
Think of the jobs that would be lost.

IMO opinion they will skip many "sleeping" regulations which have been inactive before the present helmsman took power.

[StevePIraq]

Is it still a requirement to do 24 hour reporting upon arrival in Thailand, obviously after your quarantine.

[buksida]

I don't think immigration is asking for it - but if you do it voluntarily they may get ideas.

[PeteC]

I believe it's still required within 24 hours of coming back into the country and when you arrive at your permanent residence. The requirement to file one each time you temporarily move around the country has been cancelled I believe back in June 2020.

"In quarantine" is something new and different. The hotel where you are quarantined should have reported your presence to immigration just like it was a normal hotel and you were checking in.

As far as I know once you're released you need to get to your immigration office within 24 hours with the residential documents needed to report your new, permanent place of residence. I would take quarantine documents with you as well in case the quarantine facility failed to report your presence.

Migrant, any advice? You went through quarantine and then what happened concerning filing a TM30 once you were released?

[PeteC]

Just as an FYI....I'm walking around with the stamped customer portion of the TM30 stapled to the last page of my passport, and they check it each and every time I go for a 90 day report. That's here in Rayong.

[derek60]

I hope you can still do TM30 reporting online. That's what I plan to do next time I go to Thailand (Hopefully December!)