Aggressive Expat Drivers

[T.O.M.]

I bicycle every day on the small roads around Hua Hin....30-40 km's each day.
Gives me pleasure and peace of mind.
Except for all the aggressive Fortuner and Explorer drivers using the same roads....You can be 100% sure when you meet/are passed by a car going 100-120 on roads suited to 70-80 km/h it is driven by an expat....
On narrow roads, when a driver has to pass the guy on the bike (me) and have a meeting at the same time, a Thai driver will slot in behind me (and lose 5 seconds of his life) and let the meeting car pass before overtaking. The Expat driver will overtake no matter what...."it is all about me"....and pull left when he realizes, he is about to hit the meeting car.
Which means he will push the guy on the bike (me) off the road. Has happened quite a few times and always an expat driver.
Makes me wonder...Are they all suffering from 'small-d***-syndrome'.....or are the just frustrated with life in general and takes it out on the road...?
No matter what...They are inconsiderate arseholes...

[Big Boy]

With tinted windows, I'm surprised you can tell their nationality from the backs of their heads as they pass you.

Personally, I find cyclists annoying (yes, I was one once, but didn't have the bottle to continue), but I always respect their right to be on the road. I always wait until I consider it safe to pass.

[HHTel]

I've always found the opposite. When a driver stops to let me through I usually comment that it must be an expat and invariably it is. When it comes to a 'thank you' nod or wave, it's rarely a local.
Sorry, but I don't agree.

[STEVE G]

....You can be 100% sure when you meet/are passed by a car going 100-120 on roads suited to 70-80 km/h it is driven by an expat....

Considering that the majority of expats owning vehicles around the area are retired, it makes you wonder why they're in such a hurry, perhaps desperate to get from the golf course to happy hour on time!
Personally, I cycle for an hour a day when I'm in Hua Hin and have no problems with any drivers but I do it out of town at times of day when I know there is little traffic.

[T.O.M.]

....You can be 100% sure when you meet/are passed by a car going 100-120 on roads suited to 70-80 km/h it is driven by an expat....

Considering that the majority of expats owning vehicles around the area are retired, it makes you wonder why they're in such a hurry, perhaps desperate to get from the golf course to happy hour on time!
Personally, I cycle for an hour a day when I'm in Hua Hin and have no problems with any drivers but I do it out of town at times of day when I know there is little traffic.

Of course I go out of town too...But I go in the Black Mountain area and normally around the time, when school is out at Hua Hin International School and the parents ( not retirees) are picking up their kids....and many of them drive like there is no tomorrow...And since I go the same route every day....I recognize the cars and the drivers...tinted windows or not.
Of course if doesn't happen every day...to be honest considering the number of km's I have done....it doesn't happen very often ( me being forced off the road)......But they still drive like idiots and way faster than the road is suitable for.

Yesterday I was actually forced off the road....hence this thread, just needed to let off some steam.

[Lost]

....You can be 100% sure when you meet/are passed by a car going 100-120 on roads suited to 70-80 km/h it is driven by an expat....

Considering that the majority of expats owning vehicles around the area are retired, it makes you wonder why they're in such a hurry, perhaps desperate to get from the golf course to happy hour on time!
Personally, I cycle for an hour a day when I'm in Hua Hin and have no problems with any drivers but I do it out of town at times of day when I know there is little traffic.

..., when school is out at Hua Hin International School and the parents ( not retirees) are picking up their kids....and many of them drive like there is no tomorrow...

There you have your answer. "International School Parent" syndrome. A lot of them seem to have 'me, me, me' attitudes. Many bizarrely think that, as they can afford those prices, they are in an elevated position in society.

You must realise they are all 'new money' people. Old money = class, manners and etiquette. New money here = think 'council estate folk just discovered fire'.

Someone's driving says a lot about a person. Willing to endanger others lives? Willing to force cyclists off the road? Going too fast?..

You're a selfish twat.

[Blacky]

Considering that the majority of expats owning vehicles around the area are retired, it makes you wonder why they're in such a hurry, perhaps desperate to get from the golf course to happy hour on time!
Personally, I cycle for an hour a day when I'm in Hua Hin and have no problems with any drivers but I do it out of town at times of day when I know there is little traffic.

..., when school is out at Hua Hin International School and the parents ( not retirees) are picking up their kids....and many of them drive like there is no tomorrow...

There you have your answer. "International School Parent" syndrome. A lot of them seem to have 'me, me, me' attitudes. Many bizarrely think that, as they can afford those prices, they are in an elevated position in society.

You must realise they are all 'new money' people. Old money = class, manners and etiquette. New money here = think 'council estate folk just discovered fire'.

Someone's driving says a lot about a person. Willing to endanger others lives? Willing to force cyclists off the road? Going too fast?..

You're a selfish twat.

Lost, are you serious? International School Parent syndrome and all new money people - what a load of bullsh#t! You do realize that expats working abroad do not have a lot of choices apart from sending their kids to international school. Most of the time the company pays for it. So how the hell are they all new money people? Seems like you do not know a lot of parents with kids at an international school...

[HHTel]

Spot on Blacky.

[Lost]

..., when school is out at Hua Hin International School and the parents ( not retirees) are picking up their kids....and many of them drive like there is no tomorrow...

There you have your answer. "International School Parent" syndrome. A lot of them seem to have 'me, me, me' attitudes. Many bizarrely think that, as they can afford those prices, they are in an elevated position in society.

You must realise they are all 'new money' people. Old money = class, manners and etiquette. New money here = think 'council estate folk just discovered fire'.

Someone's driving says a lot about a person. Willing to endanger others lives? Willing to force cyclists off the road? Going too fast?..

You're a selfish twat.

Lost, are you serious? International School Parent syndrome and all new money people - what a load of bullsh#t! You do realize that expats working abroad do not have a lot of choices apart from sending their kids to international school. Most of the time the company pays for it. So how the hell are they all new money people?

Sorry didn't mean to tar all with the same brush. Shouldn't have said 'all' but 'many'. Poor form on my part.

Seems like you do not know a lot of parents with kids at an international school...

You'd be surprised.

Anyhow back to bad driving expats. Some are coming from the int. School as T.O.M has pointed out.

[Takiap]

Yes, I have seen many expat pricks behind the wheel, with the most recent knob head being yesterday. Of course the prick in question wouldn't dare to step out of his vehicle.
I also see one particularly foul expat every day during my travels, and I'm afraid that if he continues to treat people the way I have seen him doing on several occasions, he might pass on before his time. It just needs to happen with a pissed off Thai guy and that could prove to be a very big mistake. As it it, he has already made an enemy with the local policeman in the area where he lives. The policeman was off duty so never had his uniform on at the time. Perhaps Mr. Expat would have thought twice if he was in uniform, but it's too late now, an enemy has been made.

So my advice to arrogant expats is: Take your cheap sand rat road rage mentality and F-off back to the hell hole you came from.

[Big Boy]

You're a braver man than me T.O.M. risking the roads around there on a bicycle with the numerous potholes. Are you sure you are being driven off the road deliberately, rather than somebody concentrating so hard maneuvering around the potholes, they don't notice you?

I do that journey most Tuesdays at school chucking out time, and I've never really noticed aggressive or fast driving. It must be very difficult if you want to look after your suspension.

I'd say 50% of the school's parents are Thai, and another 50% whose cars would be wrecked if they drove those roads too aggressively.

[Lost]

So my advice to arrogant expats is: Take your cheap sand rat road rage mentality and F-off back to the hell hole you came from.

Come on Takiap, don't hold back. How do you really feel about bad expat drivers?

[T.O.M.]

Big Boy
The drivers I am taking about are not maneuvering around the potholes...they are flying over them...which is the right way to to handle a short stretch of potholes.....IF there where no other less protected drivers on the road.
But there are people on motorbikes, bicycles and pedestrians....There is a small village school, where the kids finish about the same time as the traffic to and from the international school, some of them (8-10 years old) go the short distance to their homes on bicycles.....and I have seen SUV's passing their school going 100 km/h+...
I have never claimed to been driven off the road deliberately.....but it has happened several times that I have been pushed of the road by a car overtaking me and pulling left before having past me, if there is a car coming in the opposite direction.
But according to your maths above....it didn't happen....

[STEVE G]

Of course I go out of town too...But I go in the Black Mountain area and normally around the time, when school is out at Hua Hin International School and the parents ( not retirees) are picking up their kids....and many of them drive like there is no tomorrow...And since I go the same route every day....I recognize the cars and the drivers...tinted windows or not.

Yes, I do a route around that area as well and I try to avoid school times, I find that the mornings after everyone has gone to work is good or the last hour before dark.

[Dannie Boy]

If they’re driving at 100kph+ I’m surprised you can make out anything relating to whether they are Thai or Farangs? Based on a typical straw-poll observation of speeders on other roads, I’d say that the majority are Thai so it’s surprising why this particular stretch of road should attract so many speeding expats?