Chinese tourists (and their habits) surge into Thailand

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Post by handdrummer » Sat Aug 25, 2018 12:55 am

Why is the TOPIC so sacred? What's the problem if people want to expand the topic or take it in a different direction? If no one is complaining, except the monitors, what's the big deal?

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Yeh, those nasty 'monitors'.......... lol

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How to question Mod actions is clearly laid out in the forum's T&Cs. If you wish to question anything that we've said or done, then please follow the forum's rules. We will gladly answer.

Any further attempts to take this thread down another road will be deleted. After all, oakdale has said many times that he is the first to complain when people go off topic.
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LGBT Chinese flocking to buy Thai property

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Bangkok and Phuket are the top two destinations in Southeast Asia for LGBT Chinese looking for condos to live in because such buyers feel comfortable in these cities, says Juwai.com, a Chinese international real estate website.

The website's chief executive, Carrie Law, said mainland Chinese buyers who identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT) probably account for 5-8% of total property-buying inquiries in Bangkok.

Chinese buyers made nearly US$1 billion (32.7 billion baht) worth of buying inquiries in Bangkok over the past 18 months, placing LGBT inquiries at about $50-80 million.
LGBT Chinese purchasing power was $938 billion in 2017, up triple from two years earlier. The group's average monthly income is five times larger than the national average.

"The advantage in disposable income may be even greater because they do not have children," Ms Law said.
Despite their spending power, LGBT individuals face difficulties in their daily life in China.
Homosexuality was officially classified as a mental health disorder in China as recently as 2001.

"Overseas, however, many feel free to openly express their identities and their affections and live openly with the partner of their choice," Ms Law said. "They want to own property in a place they can feel comfortable visiting and living in."

Because LGBT international property buyers are less likely to have children, they invest differently than other Chinese. For the bulk of Chinese buyers, providing an international education or lifestyle for children is often the primary motivator.

"LGBT buyers are more likely to be buying a pure investment property or a residence for their own use as a second or third home," Ms Law said. "More often they are seen buying in destinations that are popular vacation destinations for LGBT travellers."

According to a recent report by Juwai.com, Thailand is perhaps the most tolerant country in Asia, and Bangkok is known as Asia's gay capital, viewed as a gay-friendly haven for Chinese tourists and property buyers.
Same-sex sexual activity is not illegal in Thailand. Buddhist monks often officiate over same-sex marriages. Gay-oriented nightspots cater to Chinese tourists.

Nearly a dozen travel companies offer gay-themed trips to Thailand. Some local bar owners report that they have added Chinese songs to their playlists.
"LGBT Chinese buyers prefer the central business district, but if they can't afford a more central location, they are willing to purchase in a suburban area with good transit connections," Ms Law said. "Budget is the biggest determinant for location."

At $4,500 per square metre, new luxury apartments in Bangkok sell for one-sixth the price of similar housing in Hong Kong.
Premium buyers can obtain larger homes, a more central location and more premium fixtures in Bangkok than in Hong Kong or many other Asian and world cities.

For buyers in the lower price brackets, Bangkok offers new condominiums starting at $130,000.
That figure is among the lowest in any major city popular with buyers from mainland China.

Bangkok property also appeals as an investment for LGBT Chinese buyers.
The capital's land prices have climbed 1,000% over the last 30 years, and prices for centrally located condominiums have doubled in just the last five.

Some 45% of LGBT Chinese buyer inquiries in Bangkok are for the purchaser's own use and 13% are for a holiday home, according to Juwai.com consumer surveys.
Chinese demand for property in Bangkok is growing rapidly, especially among LGBT buyers.

In the first half of 2018, Chinese property buyers made more inquiries into Bangkok real estate than in all of 2017.
"The median budget for LGBT mainland Chinese buyers in Bangkok this year is about $160,000, which varies from period to period and depends on what is in the market," Ms Law said. "Their budget seems to be consistently 5% or 10% higher than the median for all mainland Chinese buyers."

She said that when LGBT buyers purchase for investment, they want the same things as other investors and are buying in Bangkok because of the city's welcoming nature.
"When they buy residences, they want locations as central and convenient as possible," she said.

Some LGBT buyers want features designed for entertaining, in the form of common spaces they can rent from the building or larger kitchens and dining areas in the apartments.
"The most important thing developers can do to succeed with these buyers has more to do with the sales suite than the product," Ms Law said. "Target these buyers directly, show them you share their values, and sales and referrals should follow."

Like Bangkok, Phuket is an appealing market for Chinese LGBT buyers seeking to fulfil lifestyle and investment goals.
Phuket is one of the most popular beach vacation destinations in Asia for LGBT tourists.
Phuket also features dozens of LGBT-oriented venues, especially in the Patong area. Each April, thousands come for Phuket's weeklong pride festival.

LGBT buyers most commonly buy new properties with rental guarantees provided by developers for units they can rent out or -- while visiting Phuket -- occupy. In smaller numbers, they come to live full-time.

In the wake of the Phuket boating disaster on July 5, in which 47 Chinese tourists died, buyer inquiries dropped to 17% of the long-term average, but indications are that the decline will be temporary.
Even after the decrease, inquiries for Phuket property in mid-2018 were nearly twice the level of the same period in 2017.

Southeast Asia contains five of the globe's top destinations for Chinese LGBT international property buyers, with three factors driving buyer interest: tolerance, proximity and affordability.

The region is home to a number of cities that, for cultural reasons, display tolerant attitudes towards LGBT individuals. Apart from Bangkok and Phuket, these include Phnom Penh, Manila and Ho Chi Minh City.

Geographic proximity, significantly lower initial purchase prices and lower monthly costs put these markets within the reach of larger numbers of buyers.
By contrast, mainland China and other traditional investment markets such as Hong Kong, Singapore and Sydney have high prices, fees and restrictions, making real estate investment more difficult.
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Re: Chinese tourists (and their habits) surge into Thailand

Post by buksida » Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:12 pm

Suvarnabhumi opens automated channel for Chinese
Chinese visitors can now expect shorter waits at Suvarnabhumi airport with the launch of an automated immigration channel.

The service is now available for holders of Hong Kong and Chinese passports after Singaporeans have been using it since last year.

The project represents cooperation between Thai and Chinese authorities and is part of the Thailand 4.0 initiative, Pol Lt Gen Sutthipong Wongpin, chief of the Immigration Bureau, said at the launch on Saturday.

Around 800,000 Hong Kong travellers come to Thailand each year, he said.

The channel will help ease congestion since each machine takes just 20 seconds per passenger. It records passport barcodes, takes mugshots and proves identity by fingerprint.

It works with the airport's Advance Passenger Processing System (APPS) and starts checking as soon as a passenger checks in.

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Re: Chinese tourists (and their habits) surge into Thailand

Post by oakdale160 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:33 am

Would all you Euro, British Aussies and North Americans folks just step aside and allow our Chinese friends to go first
Thank you.

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Post by europtimiste » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:27 am

RACISM ! Advantage to quantity and not to quality.

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Post by europtimiste » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:20 pm

Seems to be only for Hong Kong citizens.

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Post by STEVE G » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:44 pm

oakdale160 wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:33 am
Would all you Euro, British Aussies and North Americans folks just step aside and allow our Chinese friends to go first
Thank you.
I thought the same but I just came through Suvarnabhumi this afternoon and they've put some Chinese channels in immigration now which is where all the queuing was and I got through much quicker than I have done for some time.

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Post by HHTel » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:07 pm

europtimiste wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:20 pm
Seems to be only for Hong Kong citizens.
The service is now available for holders of Hong Kong and Chinese passports after Singaporeans have been using it since last year.

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Re: Chinese tourists (and their habits) surge into Thailand

Post by Nereus » Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:47 am

Is it only me, or does anybody else wonder about young Chinese girls getting around wearing mini shorts that have to be uncomfortable to say the least? Is that how they dress in China?
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Chinese warned over Thai weather

https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/to ... ai-weather

Embassy issues guidance after six tourist drowning deaths

The Chinese embassy in Bangkok has issued a safety warning to tourists travelling to Thailand during next month's "Golden Week" holiday, after six drowning incidents involving Chinese visitors occurred in August, according to a report by the South China Morning Post.

Golden Week, in the first week of October, normally coincides with the end of the monsoon season in Phuket, Phang Nga and Krabi. However, the weather can still be changeable, with strong sea winds and powerful waves, the embassy's warning notice said.

Embassy staff told the Bangkok Post it is a common practice to issue formal notices of advice to Chinese citizens travelling to the country.

The Hong Kong-based newspaper reported that about 7 million Chinese will travel abroad during the holiday, up from more than 6 million during the same period last year.

Thailand has been in the top three overseas destinations for Chinese tourists for a long time, only behind Hong Kong and Macau, according to the China Tourism Academy, which is an official research institute under the Ministry of Culture and Tourism.

In the first half of this year, 5.93 million Chinese visited Thailand, up 26% from the same period last year, said the South China Morning Post report.

The warning notice from the Chinese embassy reminds travellers that waves can reach more than two metres during the monsoon season, from May to October, and that swimming and sea trips may not be appropriate during certain weather conditions.

The Meteorological Department (MD), meanwhile, warned on Saturday that a lower pressure area over the lower part of the Gulf of Thailand was expected to bring more rain and isolated heavy rain to the East and the South today.

From Monday until Friday, the south-west monsoon is forecast to lose its strength while remaining over the Andaman Sea, the South and the Gulf of Thailand and bringing more rain to some of these areas, said the department.

In related news, government spokesman Sansern Kaewkamnerd said Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha has been assured by the Ministry of Agriculture and Cooperatives that there was unlikely to be flooding in the Central Plains as had been feared.

In a report submitted to Gen Prayut, the ministry said that water from the country's major dams had been drained off significantly into 12 low-lying areas in the Chao Phraya basin, designated for water catchment, said Lt Gen Sansern.

The ministry also cited in information from the MD that a cold spell will arrive early this year, which means the impact of any new storm in the region won't be felt in Thailand, Lt Gen Sansern said.

The government also has in place a plan to gradually drain water in dams and reservoirs across the country, he said.
Chayapol Thitisak, director-general of the Disaster Prevention and Mitigation Department, meanwhile, said about 41,190 people in Nakhon Nayok, Prachin Buri and Chachoengsao were still affected by continuing floods.

About 232,052 people in 23 provinces, including these three, have been affected by floods since Aug 17, which have resulted in five deaths so far, he said.

The following is not what I am referring to, but it does appear that is her travelling mode of dress.
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Post by handdrummer » Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:06 pm

She doesn't look any different than scores of Thai girls that I've seen in Bangkok and Hua Hin. In fact I've seen much shorter shorts.

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Post by migrant » Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:09 pm

Fashion before comfort for the young'uns!!

I remember living in Maine and seeing kids waiting for school buses in minus 10 weather. They wore no jackets so that they could look cool! Well they looked blue anyway
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Post by Nereus » Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:24 pm

handdrummer wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:06 pm
She doesn't look any different than scores of Thai girls that I've seen in Bangkok and Hua Hin. In fact I've seen much shorter shorts. /quote]


And if you bothered to READ that which I posted, you may not have to make such a stupid comment!
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Post by handdrummer » Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:44 pm

Nereus wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:47 am
Is it only me, or does anybody else wonder about young Chinese girls getting around wearing mini shorts that have to be uncomfortable to say the least? Is that how they dress in China?
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Chinese warned over Thai weather

https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/to ... ai-weather

Embassy issues guidance after six tourist drowning deaths

The Chinese embassy in Bangkok has issued a safety warning to tourists travelling to Thailand during next month's "Golden Week" holiday, after six drowning incidents involving Chinese visitors occurred in August, according to a report by the South China Morning Post.

Golden Week, in the first week of October, normally coincides with the end of the monsoon season in Phuket, Phang Nga and Krabi. However, the weather can still be changeable, with strong sea winds and powerful waves, the embassy's warning notice said.

Embassy staff told the Bangkok Post it is a common practice to issue formal notices of advice to Chinese citizens travelling to the country.

The Hong Kong-based newspaper reported that about 7 million Chinese will travel abroad during the holiday, up from more than 6 million during the same period last year.

Thailand has been in the top three overseas destinations for Chinese tourists for a long time, only behind Hong Kong and Macau, according to the China Tourism Academy, which is an official research institute under the Ministry of Culture and Tourism.

In the first half of this year, 5.93 million Chinese visited Thailand, up 26% from the same period last year, said the South China Morning Post report.

The warning notice from the Chinese embassy reminds travellers that waves can reach more than two metres during the monsoon season, from May to October, and that swimming and sea trips may not be appropriate during certain weather conditions.

The Meteorological Department (MD), meanwhile, warned on Saturday that a lower pressure area over the lower part of the Gulf of Thailand was expected to bring more rain and isolated heavy rain to the East and the South today.

From Monday until Friday, the south-west monsoon is forecast to lose its strength while remaining over the Andaman Sea, the South and the Gulf of Thailand and bringing more rain to some of these areas, said the department.

In related news, government spokesman Sansern Kaewkamnerd said Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha has been assured by the Ministry of Agriculture and Cooperatives that there was unlikely to be flooding in the Central Plains as had been feared.

In a report submitted to Gen Prayut, the ministry said that water from the country's major dams had been drained off significantly into 12 low-lying areas in the Chao Phraya basin, designated for water catchment, said Lt Gen Sansern.

The ministry also cited in information from the MD that a cold spell will arrive early this year, which means the impact of any new storm in the region won't be felt in Thailand, Lt Gen Sansern said.

The government also has in place a plan to gradually drain water in dams and reservoirs across the country, he said.
Chayapol Thitisak, director-general of the Disaster Prevention and Mitigation Department, meanwhile, said about 41,190 people in Nakhon Nayok, Prachin Buri and Chachoengsao were still affected by continuing floods.

About 232,052 people in 23 provinces, including these three, have been affected by floods since Aug 17, which have resulted in five deaths so far, he said.

The following is not what I am referring to, but it does appear that is her travelling mode of dress.

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