Chinese tourists (and their habits) surge into Thailand

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Post by StevePIraq » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:32 pm

And don't mention the Brits who go to Spain
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Post by Nereus » Thu May 03, 2018 4:02 pm

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Chinese fuel luxury property boom in Bangkok

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In chic central Bangkok, a foreign buying binge is fuelling a red-hot market for ultra-luxury real estate.

At 98 Wireless, a luxury condo opened last March in the capital, one buyer from Hong Kong snapped up a 70 million baht apartment without more than a moment’s thought. “It was an impulse purchase for him,” says Uthai Uthaisangsuk, an executive at the project’s developer, Sansiri Plc. For the price of a cramped studio back home, the investor had bought an opulent two bedroom spread with Ralph Lauren furniture, three bathrooms outfitted with Carrera marble, butler service and a chauffeured Bentley limousine.

Scenes like this have become more common in the capital, where foreign money is pushing up prices at the top of the real estate market, even as developers struggle to sell more pedestrian properties. With the economy still recovering from a 2014 slowdown, household debt makes it tough for the average Thai person to qualify for a home loan, so companies like Sansiri and Country Group Development Plc are selling luxury to foreigners.

“Developers are having problems selling to locals,” said Ratchaphum Jongpakdee, general manager for Thailand at real estate firm Colliers International Group Inc. “But they have no problem selling to foreigners.”

Buyers definitely get more bang for their buck in Bangkok than in Hong Kong (comparing things like living space and bathroom fixtures). But what’s surprising is that, even though condominium prices in the centre of the Thai capital have doubled in the last five years, they’re still cheaper than in less-travelled cities like Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur, or Vietnam’s Ho Chi Minh City, according to real estate advisors.

The price-gap could be set to close, though. Once a niche tourism destination for backpackers, Bangkok in 2016 surpassed London to become the world’s most visited city, hosting 19 million overnight travellers, about two for every resident. The boom has put the city on the map for investors, especially mainland Chinese who are coming in droves.

Last year, land prices in the city centre jumped a record 30%, with foreign investors making up almost a quarter of the capital’s high-end property sales, according to commercial real estate firm CBRE Group. In the last quarter of 2017, the price of luxury condos rose more than 10%, outpacing every other market segment, data from Bangkok’s Real Estate Information Centre shows.

Fuel for the fire has come, ironically, because of China’s attempts to stop the outflow of money from its borders. Caps imposed last year on how much capital people can take out of the country have had the unintended effect of funnelling cash into property markets like Thailand’s, where prices are relatively cheap.

A scarcity of buildable land in the city centre is a limitation on developers. For investors, though, it’s a big reason high-end apartments should continue to appreciate, according to Patti Tomaitrichitr, an analyst at Macquarie Securities Thailand Ltd in Bangkok.

“It’s not easy to find a good plot in a good location right now, so prices will keep going up,” she said.

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Post by buksida » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:51 pm

Just an observation here but having recently passed through Swampy I would say that over 80% of the 'foreigners' there were Chinese. It is a case of 'spot the farang' in the outgoing immigration queue (which is still long and slow). Judging by the hoards, tourism numbers may well be up, maybe these lemmings are the 'quality tourists' that Thailand has always yearned for.
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Post by lomuamart » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:13 pm

Agree with that. It was spot the non Chinese when I left 6 weeks ago and came back last Friday.

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Post by caller » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:54 pm

The problem with the main group of tourists to Thailand being Chinese is what happens when they have their, 'been there and done that' moment?

Thailand might wonder where everyone has gone?
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Post by handdrummer » Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:29 pm

caller wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:54 pm
The problem with the main group of tourists to Thailand being Chinese is what happens when they have their, 'been there and done that' moment?

Thailand might wonder where everyone has gone?
It will take a long time to run out of the Chinese.

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Post by caller » Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:33 pm

handdrummer wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:29 pm
It will take a long time to run out of the Chinese.
Not if Thailand keeps drowning them!
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Post by handdrummer » Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:41 pm

:shock:
caller wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:33 pm
handdrummer wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:29 pm
It will take a long time to run out of the Chinese.
Not if Thailand keeps drowning them! :shock: :D :cheers:

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Post by charlesh » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:51 am

We should encourage them to continue their sea going adventures preferably wearing life jackets?

They happen also to be in large numbers in Cambodia. Was told the new ticketing arrangements which require your pic on the pass was the result of Ch tour operators handing over their client tickets to the next busload(s) at the popular Angkor venues. And as for their "habits" there I'd rather forget.

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Post by oakdale160 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:22 pm

I hope this is not racist, but having a photo of a Chinese person on the ticket would not help identify if it was the correct Chinese person.

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Post by PeteC » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:30 pm

oakdale160 wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:22 pm
I hope this is not racist, but having a photo of a Chinese person on the ticket would not help identify if it was the correct Chinese person.
It would be clear to the Asian eye IMO. I'm hopeless if my call, but in turn Asians say all westerners look the same. Go figure. :laugh: Pete :cheers:

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Post by buksida » Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:22 pm

TOURISM AUTHORITY TO ‘WIN BACK TRUST’ AFTER CHINESE CANCEL TRIPS
Over a quarter of Chinese travelers planning trips to Thailand have canceled in the wake of a ferry disaster that killed 50 last month.

More than 660,000 Chinese tourists have changed their plans, amounting to an estimated loss of 37 billion baht, officials announced at a Thursday conference held at Ministry of Tourism and Sports.

Tourism officials struck a positive note, saying they will work to reassure travelers of their safety and expect their No. 1 source of arrivals to bounce back by year’s end

“We think we can flip the script,” Yuthasak Supasorn, director of the Tourism Authority of Thailand, said Friday morning. “We have to race against time to win back trust from Chinese tourists, who are the top source of foreign tourists.”

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Post by PeteC » Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:25 pm

It's the same as plastic bags. Remember how you got along before they were introduced. :idea: Pete :cheers:
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Re: Chinese tourists (and their habits) surge into Thailand

Post by oakdale160 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:07 pm

Thai's loss; Vietnam's gain. And, of course, the cream are going to Europe, SE Asia gets the low-cost crowd.

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Post by Ginjaninja » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:41 pm

buksida wrote:
Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:22 pm
More than 660,000 Chinese tourists have changed their plans, amounting to an estimated loss of 37 billion baht, officials announced at a Thursday conference held at Ministry of Tourism and Sports.
Fantastic news...

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