Hi Scout,
I always replace the tire with a new one, not taking any chances. Some might argue it's a waste of money but I kinda cherish my life keeping in mind the strain that a bike tire has to endure.
Cheers,
B.
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Thanks Blacky,
Since I had multiple slow leaks I decided to replace the tire with a new one. I had nearly 22,000 kilometers on the old tires, which came with the new bike 3 years ago. The technician said he needed the bike for about 2 hours, he anticipated the new rear tire would cost around 1,200 baht and he’d call if it was going to be more. He delivered me home and delivered my bike to my home after replacing the tire, I told him I wanted the best quality tire I could buy. After an hour he called to report the price would be 1,900 baht, to which I agreed. After getting the bike back, I jumped on Lazada and learned I could have bought the same tire, delivered to my home for 1,300 baht. After which I would of had to pay extra to have it installed, but probably less than 600 baht. While on Lazada I ordered a new front tire, which arrived 3 days later. I’m not unhappy with my experience, but my lesson learned is to buy my tires on Lazada in the future.
Since I had multiple slow leaks I decided to replace the tire with a new one. I had nearly 22,000 kilometers on the old tires, which came with the new bike 3 years ago. The technician said he needed the bike for about 2 hours, he anticipated the new rear tire would cost around 1,200 baht and he’d call if it was going to be more. He delivered me home and delivered my bike to my home after replacing the tire, I told him I wanted the best quality tire I could buy. After an hour he called to report the price would be 1,900 baht, to which I agreed. After getting the bike back, I jumped on Lazada and learned I could have bought the same tire, delivered to my home for 1,300 baht. After which I would of had to pay extra to have it installed, but probably less than 600 baht. While on Lazada I ordered a new front tire, which arrived 3 days later. I’m not unhappy with my experience, but my lesson learned is to buy my tires on Lazada in the future.
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^ is this for a small bike or big bike?
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Yamaha Nmax, 155cc
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Replacing tyres usually cost B100 even at the big places. I now buy from Lazada as there is more choice
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Powerful motorcycles face tougher regulation
Big bikes will be redefined in the law and riders of the vehicles subject to stricter licensing procedures to increase road safety, according to highway police.
Highway Police Division (HPD) deputy chief Santikorn Vorawan admitted, however, that the Department of Land Transport (DLT) is the authority in charge of vehicle classification and issuing driver's licences.
Pol Col ML Santikorn said catching big bike riders is easier said than done. The bikes are often driven at high speed although they are legally classified in the same group as ordinary motorcycles.
The speed and lack of special driving skills to handle vehicles capable of travelling at such high speeds leave their riders especially prone to road accidents. When crashes involving big bikes occur, the extent of the damage is usually far greater than those involving ordinary motorcycles, the deputy commander said.
The bikes have bigger bodies and more powerful engines than ordinary motorcycles, he added.
Pol Col ML Santikorn said the HPD has brought up the issue of making big-bike riding safer for discussion with the DLT. It is agreed a legal announcement will be issued by the DLT to set big bikes apart from ordinary motorcycles.
In terms of size, the department will specify that motorcycles with an engine of 400cc or bigger which produce at least 47 horsepower are treated by law as big bikes.
Also, a person must be 18 years old or older to hold a big-bike driver's licence. Currently, a motorcycle licence requires has a minimum age of 15 years old.
Pol Col ML Santikorn added that "anyone applying for a licence to ride a big bike will need to attend special training sessions" and pass a test organised by the DLT.
The deputy commander, meanwhile, said fining speeding big-bike riders is not easy since motorcycles carry the number plates on the back of the vehicle whereas the police's remote speed sensors only capture photos of vehicles from the front.
He added that some big bikes were owned by people connected to high-ranking individuals or those with influence and junior police who caught them violating traffic laws were afraid to arrest or fine them.
Source: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... regulation
Another knee jerk reaction from the police, probably after the incident with the teenager on the big bike that they couldn't catch. While I agree in principle, 99% of the two wheeled accidents in this country are caused by idiots on scooters not looking where they are going.
Big bikes will be redefined in the law and riders of the vehicles subject to stricter licensing procedures to increase road safety, according to highway police.
Highway Police Division (HPD) deputy chief Santikorn Vorawan admitted, however, that the Department of Land Transport (DLT) is the authority in charge of vehicle classification and issuing driver's licences.
Pol Col ML Santikorn said catching big bike riders is easier said than done. The bikes are often driven at high speed although they are legally classified in the same group as ordinary motorcycles.
The speed and lack of special driving skills to handle vehicles capable of travelling at such high speeds leave their riders especially prone to road accidents. When crashes involving big bikes occur, the extent of the damage is usually far greater than those involving ordinary motorcycles, the deputy commander said.
The bikes have bigger bodies and more powerful engines than ordinary motorcycles, he added.
Pol Col ML Santikorn said the HPD has brought up the issue of making big-bike riding safer for discussion with the DLT. It is agreed a legal announcement will be issued by the DLT to set big bikes apart from ordinary motorcycles.
In terms of size, the department will specify that motorcycles with an engine of 400cc or bigger which produce at least 47 horsepower are treated by law as big bikes.
Also, a person must be 18 years old or older to hold a big-bike driver's licence. Currently, a motorcycle licence requires has a minimum age of 15 years old.
Pol Col ML Santikorn added that "anyone applying for a licence to ride a big bike will need to attend special training sessions" and pass a test organised by the DLT.
The deputy commander, meanwhile, said fining speeding big-bike riders is not easy since motorcycles carry the number plates on the back of the vehicle whereas the police's remote speed sensors only capture photos of vehicles from the front.
He added that some big bikes were owned by people connected to high-ranking individuals or those with influence and junior police who caught them violating traffic laws were afraid to arrest or fine them.
Source: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... regulation
Another knee jerk reaction from the police, probably after the incident with the teenager on the big bike that they couldn't catch. While I agree in principle, 99% of the two wheeled accidents in this country are caused by idiots on scooters not looking where they are going.
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Revving up for danger
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/sp ... for-danger
Chiang Mai big bike accident brings lack of road safety to light
The crash involving a big bike that was driven by a 13-year-old boy and injured two people in Chiang Mai last weekend has set alarm bells ringing about the dangers of powerful motorcycles on public roads, particularly of those in the hands of careless riders.
On July 7, a boy's 1,000cc Kawasaki bike rammed into a motorcycle that an elderly couple was riding in front of the Sri Arun plaza market in San Kamphaeng district, causing the boy's bike to slide down the road and hit another motorcycle.
The boy sustained severe injuries to his foot and the couple came out slightly injured.
The case sparked criticism of the boy's parents, and raised questions as to why they allowed their son to ride such a powerful bike despite the fact that he does not have a driver's licence.
Some reports also emerged that the couple suddenly cut in front of the boy's bike. An investigation into the accident is currently underway.
The incident also highlighted the careless driving practices that can be seen on roads all over Thailand, prompting the Bangkok Post to look into the matter.
Judgement mistakes
A volunteer emergency response worker in Bangkok said most of the accidents involving big bikes were the result of other vehicles miscalculating the big bikes' speeds.
"With big bikes reaching unusually high speeds, many motorists often misjudge when the bikes are about to overtake them," said the volunteer, who wishes to remain anonymous.
In provinces, local people are generally only accustomed to the normal speeds of vehicles in their areas. Many local villagers regularly drive in opposite lanes or suddenly change lanes without awareness of the vehicles behind them, according to the volunteer.
Incoming tough actions
Wanlop Sornngam, chief of the Land Transport Safety Bureau, said a recent cabinet meeting gave the green-light to a ministerial regulation that would separate driving licences for big bikes from those of ordinary motorcycles.
The regulation is likely to be implemented late next year, Mr Wanlop told the Bangkok Post.
The new driving licences for motorcycles would be divided into three categories: ordinary motorcycles driven by those aged 15 or higher, motorcycles with engines above 110cc, driven by individuals above the age of 18, and big bikes with 440cc engines or higher, also driven by those over 18.
To pass licence tests to ride big bikes, drivers need to spend more hours learning, undertaking practical training and facing more complicated exams, according to Mr Wanlop.
He said big bike drivers must undertake training on how to apply brakes, accelerate and engage with curbs -- techniques that require a different skillset from riding an ordinary motorcycle.
Teaching in schools
Meanwhile, the Transport Ministry is set to ask the Education Ministry to include traffic norms and road etiquette in the driver's education curriculum, so as to instill youth with a greater sense of road safety awareness.
Former transport minister Arkhom Termpittayapaisith said ministry officials have been visiting schools to organise training sessions and issue driving licences to students aged 15-17 who ride motorcycles. He added that more than 90% of them have passed the tests.
"The Office of the Basic Education Commission has drafted budget plans for the scheme in 76 provinces," said Mr Arkhom.
Traffic discipline
Despite speed limits of 90 kilometres per hour on streets and roads, and 120kph on motorways, motorists often hit speeds of more than 100km per hour across the board.
Some even use covers to hide their licence plates from speed detection cameras. According to the Department of Land Transport (DLT), most of the traffic deaths in Thailand involve motorcycles.
Of the registered 20 million motorcycles across the country, only 50-60% of them are owned by those with driving licences, meaning that about 8 million motorcycle drivers do not have licences.
Of those registered motorcycles, 167,000 of them were big bikes as of July 31 last year. The department's study also found that unlicensed drivers are two times more likely to be killed in road accidents than licensed ones.
Over the past four or five years, more than 1,000 people aged 15 or below lost their lives in road accidents and half of them drove motorcycles, the DLT said.
Direct experience
Six-year big-bike rider Sarayut Raktaprachit said Chiang Mai's San Kamphaeng Road, where the accident occurred, is a long, straight route on which many big bike drivers tend to accelerate.
The boy, he said, drove at speeds of more than 140kph despite the fact the speed limits in the community areas are capped at 80kph.
"Regarding when the couple's motorcycle cut in front of the boy, I think it's more common for bikers to accelerate rather than change directions, because they would have more of a chance to survive," Mr Sarayut said.
He said the boy's father should be held accountable because he supported his son's decision to drive the big bike on public roads without licences.
The father also claimed that the boy had joined bike races with a 1,000cc motorcycle before, he said.
Dad's apology
The boy's father, 55-year-old Suwit Thepakhan, apologised to the public for letting the incident take place, saying that he wanted to take responsibility for everything that occurred.
"It's like winning the first-prize lottery that my son is not severely injured," he said.
"This is a valuable lesson for my son and I. He told me that he will give up riding big bikes for the rest of his life, and that he will sell the other three big bikes that are parked at our home," Mr Suwit said.
He said his son's left ankle was broken and that he had a wound on his left foot.
He added that his son is now being admitted to Maharaj Nakhon Chiang Mai Hospital and will suspend his studies this term to receive treatment.
Mr Suwit said he met police and the elderly couple on July 10.
He added that police told him that once his son is discharged from the hospital, he will face charges of careless driving causing injury to other people, property damage, driving more than 90km over the speed limit and driving without a licence.
He said that he, as the father, would also face charges under the Child Protection Act for not properly caring for his son.
Supalak Suyanont, 60, who was hit by the boy's big bike, said she wants to see the case closed and is happy that the boy's father took responsibility for the damages.
Toughened rules ahead
By this year, the DLT aims to roll out a penalty point system to deal with traffic offences, a system which is used in many other countries, including Japan.
Through the system, each driver would receive 12 points each year. If all of the points are deducted, drivers would have their licences suspended for 90 days.
If drivers receive three suspensions, drivers would have their licences suspended for one year, after which they can drive again.
In this case, if all 12 of their points are deducted again, their licences would be suspended for a period of three years.
As for drivers who do not lose all 12 points in one year, their deducted points would be brought back the following year.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/sp ... for-danger
Chiang Mai big bike accident brings lack of road safety to light
The crash involving a big bike that was driven by a 13-year-old boy and injured two people in Chiang Mai last weekend has set alarm bells ringing about the dangers of powerful motorcycles on public roads, particularly of those in the hands of careless riders.
On July 7, a boy's 1,000cc Kawasaki bike rammed into a motorcycle that an elderly couple was riding in front of the Sri Arun plaza market in San Kamphaeng district, causing the boy's bike to slide down the road and hit another motorcycle.
The boy sustained severe injuries to his foot and the couple came out slightly injured.
The case sparked criticism of the boy's parents, and raised questions as to why they allowed their son to ride such a powerful bike despite the fact that he does not have a driver's licence.
Some reports also emerged that the couple suddenly cut in front of the boy's bike. An investigation into the accident is currently underway.
The incident also highlighted the careless driving practices that can be seen on roads all over Thailand, prompting the Bangkok Post to look into the matter.
Judgement mistakes
A volunteer emergency response worker in Bangkok said most of the accidents involving big bikes were the result of other vehicles miscalculating the big bikes' speeds.
"With big bikes reaching unusually high speeds, many motorists often misjudge when the bikes are about to overtake them," said the volunteer, who wishes to remain anonymous.
In provinces, local people are generally only accustomed to the normal speeds of vehicles in their areas. Many local villagers regularly drive in opposite lanes or suddenly change lanes without awareness of the vehicles behind them, according to the volunteer.
Incoming tough actions
Wanlop Sornngam, chief of the Land Transport Safety Bureau, said a recent cabinet meeting gave the green-light to a ministerial regulation that would separate driving licences for big bikes from those of ordinary motorcycles.
The regulation is likely to be implemented late next year, Mr Wanlop told the Bangkok Post.
The new driving licences for motorcycles would be divided into three categories: ordinary motorcycles driven by those aged 15 or higher, motorcycles with engines above 110cc, driven by individuals above the age of 18, and big bikes with 440cc engines or higher, also driven by those over 18.
To pass licence tests to ride big bikes, drivers need to spend more hours learning, undertaking practical training and facing more complicated exams, according to Mr Wanlop.
He said big bike drivers must undertake training on how to apply brakes, accelerate and engage with curbs -- techniques that require a different skillset from riding an ordinary motorcycle.
Teaching in schools
Meanwhile, the Transport Ministry is set to ask the Education Ministry to include traffic norms and road etiquette in the driver's education curriculum, so as to instill youth with a greater sense of road safety awareness.
Former transport minister Arkhom Termpittayapaisith said ministry officials have been visiting schools to organise training sessions and issue driving licences to students aged 15-17 who ride motorcycles. He added that more than 90% of them have passed the tests.
"The Office of the Basic Education Commission has drafted budget plans for the scheme in 76 provinces," said Mr Arkhom.
Traffic discipline
Despite speed limits of 90 kilometres per hour on streets and roads, and 120kph on motorways, motorists often hit speeds of more than 100km per hour across the board.
Some even use covers to hide their licence plates from speed detection cameras. According to the Department of Land Transport (DLT), most of the traffic deaths in Thailand involve motorcycles.
Of the registered 20 million motorcycles across the country, only 50-60% of them are owned by those with driving licences, meaning that about 8 million motorcycle drivers do not have licences.
Of those registered motorcycles, 167,000 of them were big bikes as of July 31 last year. The department's study also found that unlicensed drivers are two times more likely to be killed in road accidents than licensed ones.
Over the past four or five years, more than 1,000 people aged 15 or below lost their lives in road accidents and half of them drove motorcycles, the DLT said.
Direct experience
Six-year big-bike rider Sarayut Raktaprachit said Chiang Mai's San Kamphaeng Road, where the accident occurred, is a long, straight route on which many big bike drivers tend to accelerate.
The boy, he said, drove at speeds of more than 140kph despite the fact the speed limits in the community areas are capped at 80kph.
"Regarding when the couple's motorcycle cut in front of the boy, I think it's more common for bikers to accelerate rather than change directions, because they would have more of a chance to survive," Mr Sarayut said.
He said the boy's father should be held accountable because he supported his son's decision to drive the big bike on public roads without licences.
The father also claimed that the boy had joined bike races with a 1,000cc motorcycle before, he said.
Dad's apology
The boy's father, 55-year-old Suwit Thepakhan, apologised to the public for letting the incident take place, saying that he wanted to take responsibility for everything that occurred.
"It's like winning the first-prize lottery that my son is not severely injured," he said.
"This is a valuable lesson for my son and I. He told me that he will give up riding big bikes for the rest of his life, and that he will sell the other three big bikes that are parked at our home," Mr Suwit said.
He said his son's left ankle was broken and that he had a wound on his left foot.
He added that his son is now being admitted to Maharaj Nakhon Chiang Mai Hospital and will suspend his studies this term to receive treatment.
Mr Suwit said he met police and the elderly couple on July 10.
He added that police told him that once his son is discharged from the hospital, he will face charges of careless driving causing injury to other people, property damage, driving more than 90km over the speed limit and driving without a licence.
He said that he, as the father, would also face charges under the Child Protection Act for not properly caring for his son.
Supalak Suyanont, 60, who was hit by the boy's big bike, said she wants to see the case closed and is happy that the boy's father took responsibility for the damages.
Toughened rules ahead
By this year, the DLT aims to roll out a penalty point system to deal with traffic offences, a system which is used in many other countries, including Japan.
Through the system, each driver would receive 12 points each year. If all of the points are deducted, drivers would have their licences suspended for 90 days.
If drivers receive three suspensions, drivers would have their licences suspended for one year, after which they can drive again.
In this case, if all 12 of their points are deducted again, their licences would be suspended for a period of three years.
As for drivers who do not lose all 12 points in one year, their deducted points would be brought back the following year.
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Jeez, gory details:
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Music executive dismembered in big bike crash
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... bike-crash
Headless body found on flyover above Khlong Ton intersection in Bangkok
A music industry executive has been dismembered when his big bike hit the railing of a flyover in Bangkok.
Police and rescue workers were alerted to the incident on the flyover above the Khlong Ton intersection early on Saturday. They found the headless body of a man and a yellow-and-black BMW S1000 that appeared to have lost control 200 metres away.
The man was later identified as Patnarin Phongthananikorn, 37, an executive of the Music Train label and youngest son of its owner Prasert.
According to eyewitnesses, Patnarin was riding his big bike at high speed on Phetchaburi Road and continued onto the flyover. It appeared he might have lost control and the vehicle fell over. During the crash, his neck might have been severed by the flyover railing. The helmet with the head fell into the opposite lane while the bike slid 200m from the body.
Motorcycles are not allowed on the Khlong Ton flyover.
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Music executive dismembered in big bike crash
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... bike-crash
Headless body found on flyover above Khlong Ton intersection in Bangkok
A music industry executive has been dismembered when his big bike hit the railing of a flyover in Bangkok.
Police and rescue workers were alerted to the incident on the flyover above the Khlong Ton intersection early on Saturday. They found the headless body of a man and a yellow-and-black BMW S1000 that appeared to have lost control 200 metres away.
The man was later identified as Patnarin Phongthananikorn, 37, an executive of the Music Train label and youngest son of its owner Prasert.
According to eyewitnesses, Patnarin was riding his big bike at high speed on Phetchaburi Road and continued onto the flyover. It appeared he might have lost control and the vehicle fell over. During the crash, his neck might have been severed by the flyover railing. The helmet with the head fell into the opposite lane while the bike slid 200m from the body.
Motorcycles are not allowed on the Khlong Ton flyover.
- The BMW S1000 of Patnarin Phongthananikorn, 37, an executive of the Music Train label, is seen on Khlong Ton flyover on Saturday morning. (Photo courtesy of JS100)
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Get tough on big-bike drivers
https://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opi ... ke-drivers
The frequency of accidents involving high-powered motorcycles spotlights the need for officials to come up with better regulations for riders, who need a higher level of skill and more maturity.
Big-bike accidents have grabbed public attention over the past five days, as all ended up with fatalities.
It started with the death of Patnarin Phongthannikorn, a son of the famous Music Train record company founder, who was decapitated in a high-speed crash on the flyover above Khlong Tan intersection on Saturday.
On Monday, Roongrit Jaksukaew was drowned when his 300cc motorcycle plunged into Phra Khanong canal. The latest victims were on Tuesday, when a big bike driven by Amornrat Klaothanom hit a motorcycle with a side cart in Nop Phi Tham district in Nakhon Si Thammarat province.
The big bike driver was killed, as was Parita Dokbua, the 14-year-old girl driving the smaller sidecart motorbike. Her younger sister told police the big bike was moving at high speed when it hit her sister as she was entering the soi.
These accidents underline the dangers inherent in riding big bikes, which have become very popular.
The Land Transport Department has defined a big bike as a motorcycle with and engine capacity of 400cc or more. But others, including the Road Safety Thailand Policy Foundation, say it should start from 250cc.
The death toll involving motorbikes of 250cc or more doubled in 2016 to 285 from 145 in 2014, according to the road safety foundation, which monitors accidents and promotes road safety.
About 60 people die in road accidents every day, 70% of them involving motorcycles. In three out of every four fatalities, the motorcyclists killed were not wearing safety helmets.
"Safety helmets are not the only answer to solving the problems," Thanaphong Jinawong, director of the foundation’s academic centre for road safety, told CU Radio of Chulalongkorn University on Wednesday.
"If we do not handle the speed problem, wearing helmets cannot save lives."
In the crash involving Patnarin on Saturday, he was, at least, wearing a helmet when he was killed.
Dr Thanapong also pointed to the lack of age limits as a problem iin big-bike accidents.
Thailand has no age limit for riding high-powered motorcycles. Licensed riders aged 18 or more can drive any type of motorcycle. Many other countries set the starting age for a licence for motorcycle of 250cc or more at 21 or 24 years, he told CU Radio.
Riders or high-powered motorcycles need extra skills to properly control the machines, he added.
"And it is not only about driving skills," Dr Thanapong said. "It is also about maturity when it comes to the decision-making process."
The Highway Police Division has called for stricter regulations for big-bike drivers, but says reform has to start at the Land Transport Department.
Department deputy director-general Kamol Buranapong said the department plans on introducing additional requirements for people applying for a licence for high-powered motorcycles of 400cc or more.
An applicant will also be required to undergo training before seeking a licence for a big bike, he said.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opi ... ke-drivers
The frequency of accidents involving high-powered motorcycles spotlights the need for officials to come up with better regulations for riders, who need a higher level of skill and more maturity.
Big-bike accidents have grabbed public attention over the past five days, as all ended up with fatalities.
It started with the death of Patnarin Phongthannikorn, a son of the famous Music Train record company founder, who was decapitated in a high-speed crash on the flyover above Khlong Tan intersection on Saturday.
On Monday, Roongrit Jaksukaew was drowned when his 300cc motorcycle plunged into Phra Khanong canal. The latest victims were on Tuesday, when a big bike driven by Amornrat Klaothanom hit a motorcycle with a side cart in Nop Phi Tham district in Nakhon Si Thammarat province.
The big bike driver was killed, as was Parita Dokbua, the 14-year-old girl driving the smaller sidecart motorbike. Her younger sister told police the big bike was moving at high speed when it hit her sister as she was entering the soi.
These accidents underline the dangers inherent in riding big bikes, which have become very popular.
The Land Transport Department has defined a big bike as a motorcycle with and engine capacity of 400cc or more. But others, including the Road Safety Thailand Policy Foundation, say it should start from 250cc.
The death toll involving motorbikes of 250cc or more doubled in 2016 to 285 from 145 in 2014, according to the road safety foundation, which monitors accidents and promotes road safety.
About 60 people die in road accidents every day, 70% of them involving motorcycles. In three out of every four fatalities, the motorcyclists killed were not wearing safety helmets.
"Safety helmets are not the only answer to solving the problems," Thanaphong Jinawong, director of the foundation’s academic centre for road safety, told CU Radio of Chulalongkorn University on Wednesday.
"If we do not handle the speed problem, wearing helmets cannot save lives."
In the crash involving Patnarin on Saturday, he was, at least, wearing a helmet when he was killed.
Dr Thanapong also pointed to the lack of age limits as a problem iin big-bike accidents.
Thailand has no age limit for riding high-powered motorcycles. Licensed riders aged 18 or more can drive any type of motorcycle. Many other countries set the starting age for a licence for motorcycle of 250cc or more at 21 or 24 years, he told CU Radio.
Riders or high-powered motorcycles need extra skills to properly control the machines, he added.
"And it is not only about driving skills," Dr Thanapong said. "It is also about maturity when it comes to the decision-making process."
The Highway Police Division has called for stricter regulations for big-bike drivers, but says reform has to start at the Land Transport Department.
Department deputy director-general Kamol Buranapong said the department plans on introducing additional requirements for people applying for a licence for high-powered motorcycles of 400cc or more.
An applicant will also be required to undergo training before seeking a licence for a big bike, he said.
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Anyone know if Sunday's gp is being shown in any bars in town
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Lane-splitting ban, speed limit planned for big bikes
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... -big-bikes
The Transport Ministry plans to ban "lane splitting" by big-bike riders and limit their speed to 80 kilometres per hour in built-up areas for safety.
Chirute Visalachitra, deputy permanent secretary for transport, said on Tuesday that under the "lane-splitting" ban, big-bike riders would not be permitted to ride between vehicles and would have to wait for traffic lights behind other vehicles in traffic lanes.
They would be required to limit their speed at 80kph in urban and community areas, he said.
In addition, the ministry would require big bike riders to undergo specially-designed tests before obtaining big bike driving licences. There would be special test fields for big bike riders and they would also undergo simulations of danger-prone situations to ensure they have a safety-first mindset, Mr Chirute said.
He added that the ministry would require foreign tourists to show driving licences while renting motorcycles in the country. The requirement never previously existed and many foreigners have died in motorcycle accidents in the country, he said.
Mr Chirute did not give a timeframe for the imposition of the new rules, saying concerned officials would finalise new measures for motorcycle safety in 30 days before seeking cabinet approval. Some measures might start by the end of the year, he said without elaborating.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... -big-bikes
The Transport Ministry plans to ban "lane splitting" by big-bike riders and limit their speed to 80 kilometres per hour in built-up areas for safety.
Chirute Visalachitra, deputy permanent secretary for transport, said on Tuesday that under the "lane-splitting" ban, big-bike riders would not be permitted to ride between vehicles and would have to wait for traffic lights behind other vehicles in traffic lanes.
They would be required to limit their speed at 80kph in urban and community areas, he said.
In addition, the ministry would require big bike riders to undergo specially-designed tests before obtaining big bike driving licences. There would be special test fields for big bike riders and they would also undergo simulations of danger-prone situations to ensure they have a safety-first mindset, Mr Chirute said.
He added that the ministry would require foreign tourists to show driving licences while renting motorcycles in the country. The requirement never previously existed and many foreigners have died in motorcycle accidents in the country, he said.
Mr Chirute did not give a timeframe for the imposition of the new rules, saying concerned officials would finalise new measures for motorcycle safety in 30 days before seeking cabinet approval. Some measures might start by the end of the year, he said without elaborating.
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Re: The bikers thread; trips, news, chat, all things motorcycle
I'd agree with the urban speed limit but the comment on foreigners is simply ignorant considering the fact that 99% of motorcycle accidents in Thailand are locals driving scooters into traffic without looking where they are going.
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Re: The bikers thread; trips, news, chat, all things motorcycle
Massive tax hike coming for big bikes
The Excise Department will boost the tax on “big bikes” by Bt100,000 starting on January 1 based on rates adjusted to reflect motorcycle CO2 emissions.
Nutthakorn Utensute, director of the department’s Bureau of Tax Planning, said this weekend the Cabinet had acknowledged the tax hike for high-powered motorcycles based on CO2 emissions rather than engine size, as originally proposed.
The tax hike will apply to bikes coming out of the factory or imported on and after January 1.
Bikes with engines of 150cc or less – basically 90 per cent of all motorcycles in the country – face an additional tax above Bt100, representing an increase from 2.5 to 3 per cent of the retail or import price.
Big bikes with engines of 1,000cc or more will be taxed an extra Bt100,000 due to their higher fuel consumption and CO2 emissions.
“The higher tax on big bikes will not affect most owners since they’re worth more than Bt1 million, which means the owners can afford it,” Nutthakorn said.
“The big bike has become more popular in Thailand, but still only represent 2-3 per cent of the total number of motorcycles here.”
https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30377792
The Excise Department will boost the tax on “big bikes” by Bt100,000 starting on January 1 based on rates adjusted to reflect motorcycle CO2 emissions.
Nutthakorn Utensute, director of the department’s Bureau of Tax Planning, said this weekend the Cabinet had acknowledged the tax hike for high-powered motorcycles based on CO2 emissions rather than engine size, as originally proposed.
The tax hike will apply to bikes coming out of the factory or imported on and after January 1.
Bikes with engines of 150cc or less – basically 90 per cent of all motorcycles in the country – face an additional tax above Bt100, representing an increase from 2.5 to 3 per cent of the retail or import price.
Big bikes with engines of 1,000cc or more will be taxed an extra Bt100,000 due to their higher fuel consumption and CO2 emissions.
“The higher tax on big bikes will not affect most owners since they’re worth more than Bt1 million, which means the owners can afford it,” Nutthakorn said.
“The big bike has become more popular in Thailand, but still only represent 2-3 per cent of the total number of motorcycles here.”
https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30377792
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Re: The bikers thread; trips, news, chat, all things motorcycle
OK guys and gals, looking for suggestions here.
I've had big bikes back in the states, harley, suzuki, kawa, but haven't had a bike here. Now going to look for 2 bikes
1) A smaller bike for the wife who swears she knows how to ride but hasn't in years, and has failed in her 2 attempts here (without loss of limb). A plus would be that I can ride it when I don't need #2 (I'm fairly large)
2) A bigger bike for me. As stated above I am fairly large. Rode a fat boy harley for many years. I would love to go for a "big" bike but doubt I would use as much. Rides with the boys (the wife didn't like long rides in the States so sure the same here) would be fairly infrequent so investing in another big bike doesn't really make sense (at least for now
) So looking for something with a bit of power so I can keep up with the crowd yet easy enough around town
On #2 I've thought about a PCX, rented one once and it did well. I like the Forza as a bigger step up but at their prices may just go to a big bike
So looking for suggestion. Also are bikes like cars and carry their value well over here? Going to look at some dealers for prices on new bikes and compare, but, again, suggestions welcome.
I've had big bikes back in the states, harley, suzuki, kawa, but haven't had a bike here. Now going to look for 2 bikes
1) A smaller bike for the wife who swears she knows how to ride but hasn't in years, and has failed in her 2 attempts here (without loss of limb). A plus would be that I can ride it when I don't need #2 (I'm fairly large)
2) A bigger bike for me. As stated above I am fairly large. Rode a fat boy harley for many years. I would love to go for a "big" bike but doubt I would use as much. Rides with the boys (the wife didn't like long rides in the States so sure the same here) would be fairly infrequent so investing in another big bike doesn't really make sense (at least for now
) So looking for something with a bit of power so I can keep up with the crowd yet easy enough around townOn #2 I've thought about a PCX, rented one once and it did well. I like the Forza as a bigger step up but at their prices may just go to a big bike
So looking for suggestion. Also are bikes like cars and carry their value well over here? Going to look at some dealers for prices on new bikes and compare, but, again, suggestions welcome.
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Re: The bikers thread; trips, news, chat, all things motorcycle
For the mrs I'd get something small and under-powered like a Fino or Scoopy. They're easy to fix and are all over the place.
For yourself there is plenty to choose from but a lot of difference between town bikes, tourers, cruisers, sports bikes etc. What's your riding style? Agree on the Forza, for that money you can get a real motorcycle
Regards to holding values, the smaller bikes tend to but the big bikes lose a lot quick so I would go second hand. With the expat exodus there are loads of low km big bikes for sale at the moment - check bahtsold.com
For yourself there is plenty to choose from but a lot of difference between town bikes, tourers, cruisers, sports bikes etc. What's your riding style? Agree on the Forza, for that money you can get a real motorcycle
Regards to holding values, the smaller bikes tend to but the big bikes lose a lot quick so I would go second hand. With the expat exodus there are loads of low km big bikes for sale at the moment - check bahtsold.com
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