The AI (artificial intelligence) thread

Technology, computers, internet, websites, mobiles, cameras, audio and video.
SPONSORS: Hua Hin Web Design
User avatar
Big Boy
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 49050
Joined: Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:36 pm
Location: Bon Kai

Re: The AI (artificial intelligence) thread

Post by Big Boy »

A friend of mine has put my latest Mukdahan and Ban Non Sombun post into AI.

My post.......
Part 11

Conclusion

A trip with a difference i.e. planned to an area I hate, with the sole intention of visiting family.

Planning was not easy, because I was looking for somewhere not actually on the map, but we got there in the end. This was so remote, I probably couldn’t have attempted the trip without technology.

In actuality, this was probably the best visit I’ve ever had to Isaan. The visit was significantly enhanced by our excellent hotel in Mukdahan, which truly had a WOW factor. I’ve stayed in many different classes of hotel over the years including some of the best the UK had to offer. Nothing ever compared to this baby – it was perfect. Actually, the one thing it didn’t have was a swimming pool, but since my leg problems many years ago, swimming is no longer an option for me. I actually didn’t want to leave my beautiful hotel room to return home. A real first for me in Isaan.

For anybody wanting a totally relaxing break, I don’t think you could do better than taking a few days at the Vieng Khong hotel in Mukdahan – totally chilled. A few, not a lot, of restaurants within waling distance – all accessible via the very nice riverside walkway.

Next short trip is already in the planning stages. It’s a footie trip, but we’re off to Suphanburi for a couple of days in just over 2 weeks time. Watch this space.
Whilst AI has included the above facts, it has gone into realm of fantasy with other bits it has added on or expanded up. He offered me 2 versions, trying to say AI was better:

Version 1
Part 11

Conclusion

A trip with a difference, in other words, planned to an area I typically shy away from, with the sole intention of visiting family. This wasn't my usual kind of trip, and honestly, I wasn't looking forward to it. However, family calls, and sometimes you just have to bite the bullet.

Planning the trip itself wasn't a walk in the park either. My relatives live in a rather remote part of Isaan, a place so off the beaten track it barely registered on the map. I'm thankful for technology because, without GPS and online maps, I'm pretty sure I'd still be driving around lost. Finding their village felt like navigating through a maze of rice paddies and dirt tracks.

Despite my initial apprehension, this trip turned out to be the most enjoyable visit I've ever had to Isaan. A significant factor in this positive turnaround was our choice of accommodation: the Vieng Khong hotel in Mukdahan. This hotel wasn't just a place to sleep; it was an experience, a true haven of comfort and luxury. I've stayed in my fair share of hotels over the years, from budget-friendly options to high-end establishments, including some of the most renowned hotels in the UK. But nothing, and I mean nothing, compared to the Vieng Khong. It was perfect in every sense of the word.

The room was exquisitely decorated, spacious, and offered all the modern amenities one could ask for. The service was impeccable, with the staff going above and beyond to ensure our comfort. The only thing missing was a swimming pool, but considering my leg problems, which prevent me from swimming, its absence was inconsequential. In fact, I was so enamored by the hotel and my comfortable room that the thought of leaving to return home filled me with a sense of dread. This was a first for me in Isaan, a place I usually couldn't wait to leave behind.

For anyone seeking a truly relaxing and rejuvenating getaway, I wholeheartedly recommend the Vieng Khong hotel in Mukdahan. It's a haven of tranquility and comfort, perfect for unwinding and escaping the hustle and bustle of everyday life. The hotel's location is another plus point. Situated within walking distance of the Mekong River, it offers stunning views and easy access to the charming riverside walkway, dotted with a few restaurants where
Version 2
Part 11

Conclusion

This trip was definitely a departure from my usual travel style – a journey planned around an area I typically shy away from, driven solely by the desire to reconnect with family. The planning phase itself proved to be an adventure. My destination wasn't a prominent landmark on a map but rather a whisper of a place, tucked away in the heart of Isaan. Navigating to such a remote location would have been a daunting, if not impossible, task without the aid of modern technology. I relied heavily on digital maps, GPS coordinates, and local recommendations to piece together our route.

Despite the initial apprehension and logistical hurdles, this trip turned out to be the most rewarding and enjoyable experience I've ever had in Isaan. A significant factor in elevating this trip was our exceptional accommodation in Mukdahan – the Vieng Khong Hotel. This hotel wasn't just a place to sleep; it was an experience in itself, boasting a captivating "wow" factor that left a lasting impression. Having stayed in a wide range of hotels over the years, including some of the most acclaimed establishments in the UK, I can confidently say that the Vieng Khong Hotel stands in a league of its own. The attention to detail, the impeccable service, and the overall ambiance created an atmosphere of pure indulgence and relaxation.

The only amenity it lacked was a swimming pool, which wasn't a concern for me personally. Years ago, I faced some leg problems that made swimming an impossibility, so the absence of a pool didn't detract from my enjoyment in the slightest. In fact, the hotel room was so comfortable and inviting that leaving it to return home felt like a genuine sacrifice – a first for me in Isaan, where I'm usually eager to return to familiar comforts.

For anyone seeking a truly tranquil and rejuvenating getaway, I wholeheartedly recommend considering the Vieng Khong Hotel in Mukdahan. It's a haven of peace and quiet, allowing you to unwind and escape the hustle and bustle of daily life. The hotel's location is another advantage, with a handful of excellent restaurants within walking distance, all
I don't like it at all. Yes, it makes it sound nice, but neither reflect my trip. It is filled with BS.
Championship Plymouth Argyle 1 - 2 Leeds Utd :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Points 46; Position 23 RELEGATED :cry: :cry:
User avatar
Dannie Boy
Hero
Hero
Posts: 13752
Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:12 pm
Location: Closer to Cha Am than Hua Hin

Re: The AI (artificial intelligence) thread

Post by Dannie Boy »

I actually thought all three were good!!
User avatar
Big Boy
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 49050
Joined: Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:36 pm
Location: Bon Kai

Re: The AI (artificial intelligence) thread

Post by Big Boy »

The AI bits are good, but they exaggerate/stray from the truth. If we all start relying on AI, we'll most likely have to get jobs as politicians.
Championship Plymouth Argyle 1 - 2 Leeds Utd :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Points 46; Position 23 RELEGATED :cry: :cry:
User avatar
Dannie Boy
Hero
Hero
Posts: 13752
Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:12 pm
Location: Closer to Cha Am than Hua Hin

Re: The AI (artificial intelligence) thread

Post by Dannie Boy »

It wasn’t that far-fetched 🤣
User avatar
STEVE G
Hero
Hero
Posts: 13540
Joined: Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:50 am
Location: HUA HIN/EUROPE

Re: The AI (artificial intelligence) thread

Post by STEVE G »

I always thought this would be a flaw with AI, as more input to the Internet is generated by AI, it will slowly start amplifying mistakes in feedback loops;


Earlier this year, scientists discovered a peculiar term appearing in published papers: “vegetative electron microscopy”.

This phrase, which sounds technical but is actually nonsense, has become a “digital fossil” – an error preserved and reinforced in artificial intelligence (AI) systems that is nearly impossible to remove from our knowledge repositories.

The case of vegetative electron microscopy offers a troubling glimpse into how AI systems can perpetuate and amplify errors throughout our collective knowledge.

Vegetative electron microscopy appears to have originated through a remarkable coincidence of unrelated errors.

First, two papers from the 1950s, published in the journal Bacteriological Reviews, were scanned and digitised.

However, the digitising process erroneously combined “vegetative” from one column of text with “electron” from another. As a result, the phantom term was created.

Decades later, “vegetative electron microscopy” turned up in some Iranian scientific papers. In 2017 and 2019, two papers used the term in English captions and abstracts.

This appears to be due to a translation error. In Farsi, the words for “vegetative” and “scanning” differ by only a single dot.

https://theconversation.com/a-weird-phr ... ata-254463
User avatar
buksida
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 23955
Joined: Tue Dec 31, 2002 12:25 pm
Location: south of sanity

Re: The AI (artificial intelligence) thread

Post by buksida »

OpenAI spends millions to process polite phrases such as "Thank You" and "Please" with ChatGPT
For all its advanced features, running AI is considerably expensive, necessitating extensive capital for the underlying hardware and power consumption. It turns out that engaging in casual conversation and polite exchanges leads to "tens of millions of dollars" in expenses for companies like OpenAI. Still, that company's CEO, Sam Altman, considers this investment worthwhile because even though these responses might seem insignificant, they make using AI a touch more humane.

Many of us use Artificial Intelligence daily, largely for seeking assistance, but a subset of users have formed a deeper connection and converse with it like they would a friend. I clearly recall being taught in the first grade, "Computers cannot feel," as one of the primary differences between man and machine. While AI cannot exercise emotions, its perceived human-like nature in these interactions instinctively makes us blurt out courtesies like "Thank You" and "Please."

Sam Altman acknowledges this and reports that ChatGPT costs the company tens of millions of dollars just generating responses to these prompts. Taken another way, recent report suggests that even a short three-word "You are welcome" response from an LLM uses up roughly 40-50 milliliters of water.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technolo ... r-AA1DclyS
Who is the happier man, he who has braved the storm of life and lived or he who has stayed securely on shore and merely existed? - Hunter S Thompson
GroveHillWanderer
Guru
Guru
Posts: 942
Joined: Tue May 24, 2016 10:48 am
Location: Nong Kae

Re: The AI (artificial intelligence) thread

Post by GroveHillWanderer »

Yes, AI - or as Trump's secretary of education Linda McMahon calls it, A-one (no, I kid you not).

Trump Education Secretary Linda McMahon got lost on the A1 sauce
Former 'WWE Raw' empresario Linda McMahon got roasted online after confusing the acronym for artificial intelligence – AI – with a sauce you might use on a steak. It's what she deserved – and more.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ ... 101568007/

This administration truly lives up to its reputation as a kakistocracy.
User avatar
Lost
Addict
Addict
Posts: 6000
Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:16 pm

Re: The AI (artificial intelligence) thread

Post by Lost »

For anyone that's been following AI closely at all since the first ChatGPT model and image generators, you'll know the absolutely insane progress it's making, particularly over the last couple of years. The rate of evolution at the moment is quite remarkable. With the influx of competitors vying for a piece of the AI pie, swamps of money and tech has been put into it.

It's a monster! Whether it's a good or bad monster for humans is undetermined. :shock:
I don't trust children. They're here to replace us.
User avatar
Dannie Boy
Hero
Hero
Posts: 13752
Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:12 pm
Location: Closer to Cha Am than Hua Hin

Re: The AI (artificial intelligence) thread

Post by Dannie Boy »

I think the answer is it will be both!!
Martinoo
Member
Member
Posts: 82
Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:09 am

Re: The AI (artificial intelligence) thread

Post by Martinoo »

I am part of an attempt to set up an AI driven company.

Normally (!) AI is developed and worked with, within a confined area and it needs high level access for a 3rd party to get in, including other malicious AI.
And if they would get access to an AI heart, then it also depends on the intent the AI was created for.... language translation for example would be quite safe, but chemical or weapon developments could result in serious consequences when accessed and fooled around with. Obnviously that needs high security access and confinement...
But that goes the other way around as well, (good) governments could try to break into the developments of hermit states or aggressors like certain western malfunctional states to kill their aggressive efforts
The developments and modules the public deals with are restricted and safe, unless someone wants to interrupt the service, but it cannot be developed into terminator like situations, it is not equipped for that...
In short AI carries risk depending on the intent of the developer....
User avatar
buksida
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 23955
Joined: Tue Dec 31, 2002 12:25 pm
Location: south of sanity

Re: The AI (artificial intelligence) thread

Post by buksida »

Thailand wants to be powered by AI ... maybe it can help them build and fix roads, build a train that can do more than 80kph, and design state websites and apps that actually function ... :duck:

All government units to adopt digital systems by 2026
The government wants all units to fully adopt digital systems by next year, with an estimated investment of 500 billion baht in digital infrastructure.

According to Sasikarn Wattanachan, deputy spokesperson for the Office of the Prime Minister, the investment will come from a combination of government funding and private sector contributions, both domestic and international.

The goal was announced following the first meeting of the National AI Committee on May 1, chaired by Prime Minister Paetongtarn Shinawatra.

According to Ms Sasikarn, the premier stated before the meeting that the world is changing rapidly and over the past 10 years Thailand's growth rate has been relatively slow. The integration of AI and technology is important to address these issues, said Ms Paetongtarn.

The government recognises this matter is crucial and cannot be delayed. Continuous development is necessary to enhance Thailand's competitiveness on the global stage.

To drive progress and technological development in the country, the National AI Committee has been established to implement the National AI Action Plan for Thailand's development.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/ge ... ms-by-2026
Who is the happier man, he who has braved the storm of life and lived or he who has stayed securely on shore and merely existed? - Hunter S Thompson
Martinoo
Member
Member
Posts: 82
Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:09 am

Re: The AI (artificial intelligence) thread

Post by Martinoo »

Spot on Buksida.
The company I am involved with is working with NIA and TAT to develop some apps for travelers, tourists and retail. I had not heard about the NAC that you are referring too, but I assume that somewhere down the line we will meet them as well.
Their expectation of the labour market is somewhat high, as we struggle for example to get 10 good developers in this rapidly changing environment.. Currently there are approximately 20,000 experts and that includes developers... but then again this is Thailand so finger in the wind is always the way to go. I also would like to say that digitalizing is something very different from AI application development....

On a side note
We are also preparing to introduce a project for immigration, (thanks to (y)our impatience during the visa extensions) to make the visa applications a remote and online happening, especially if there are no major changes in the details of the returning applicant. This is as easy as it comes, it should not even require AI... and is funny to say the least this has not been thought of and done before...
However I am a little afraid, looking at what hardware immigration are using, as with many state departments, the hardware they use is inadequate.
The previous company I worked, as an example, handed used PC etc. to various government offices we had interactions with ..
User avatar
Big Boy
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 49050
Joined: Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:36 pm
Location: Bon Kai

Re: The AI (artificial intelligence) thread

Post by Big Boy »

Has the world lost track of reality?

I'm watching footage on BBC News of an AI generated video, depicting a road rage victim in Arizona forgiving his killer. FFS why bother with AI, we've had Looney Tunes for years.
Championship Plymouth Argyle 1 - 2 Leeds Utd :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Points 46; Position 23 RELEGATED :cry: :cry:
Martinoo
Member
Member
Posts: 82
Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:09 am

Re: The AI (artificial intelligence) thread

Post by Martinoo »

Heard similar 'worries' a few decades in a row now;
-robotics were to replace all manufacturing jobs, skepticism towards robotics has often stemmed from a mismatch between the fantastical portrayals and the practical realities, concerns about economic and social impacts, and questions about safety, reliability, and ethical implications
-internet was too dangerous to have kids playing or study, even some experts were initially skeptical about the internet's potential. For example, in 1995, Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman famously predicted that "by 2005 or so, it will become clear that the Internet's impact on the economy has been no greater than the fax machine's....
-mobile phones; the skepticism surrounding early mobile phones centered on their practicality, cost, perceived lack of necessity, potential health and safety risks, and concerns about their social impact
And I probably forgot some lifestyle changes that were met with skepticism and are now so integrated I just simply forgot them

AI will have a similar routing and impact; skepticism, acceptation and adaptation....and in fact, it is already deeply integrated into many aspects of our lives. This adaptation is an ongoing process that will likely accelerate and evolve in the coming years

Yes, bad people will use it, same with mobile phone or internet scams or the dark web...
User avatar
Lost
Addict
Addict
Posts: 6000
Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:16 pm

Re: The AI (artificial intelligence) thread

Post by Lost »

The evolution of AI video generation is quite incredible. From the infamous 'Will Smith eating spaghetti' video 2 years ago.



To the quality of stuff we're getting now...



Oh and and updated 'Will Smith eating spaghetti' 2025 🤣

I don't trust children. They're here to replace us.
Post Reply