Thailand Immigration: TM30 24 hour reporting thread

[stretch]

How would it work if I take say a five day trip out of Thailand and then come back to hua hin it's getting very confusing

[T.O.M.]

Can this TM30 reporting be completed at Bluport, or is it only the main office?

Just had a new tenant...moving from another province...doing it at Bluport.
Or more correctly, she reported her moving to Hua Hin....which form she used...no idea.

[Big Boy]

OK, thanks. I'll be doing my first next Monday. I will of course advise if they say only the main office.

Now another question guys. A friend will be travelling with me next weekend. He is currently booked in legally at V Living. V Living insists on 3 months tenancy minimum. Does he have to ask V living to report him as being back, even though in their opinion he will not have left, or does he do it himself? Normally, I would have told him not to bother, but he will almost certainly be extending his visa at the end of his stay for a few days/weeks (100% the scenario for getting caught out).

[T.O.M.]

No doubt your friend will be arrested by Hua Hin Immigration SWAT team and sentenced to 5 years in the slammer and a 10 year ban from entering Thailand again.....
On a more serious note...if we are talking about a short extension, that can be done at Bluport, I wouldn't care to report it.....
And even if it is the kind of extension, that can only be done at the main office, it is not his responsibility to report his return to his rented premises, but the responsibility of his landlord...who probably not is going to report anything......
Have you ever heard of any person being denied their extension at Hua Hin Immigration because of the lack of a TM30 report?
Chang Wattana is another story...they use the TM30 (or rather lack of it) to blackmail their clients to contribute to the tea box....No bribe....no extension.....
But we are in Hua Hin, where they thankfully not are very strict in enforcing the TM30-nonsense....So instead of getting paranoid.....let us enjoy, that we belong to a good immigration office.

[Big Boy]

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No doubt your friend will be arrested by Hua Hin Immigration SWAT team and sentenced to 5 years in the slammer and a 10 year ban from entering Thailand again..... It could be worse than that, he could be refused his extension.
On a more serious note...if we are talking about a short extension, that can be done at Bluport, I wouldn't care to report it.....
And even if it is the kind of extension, that can only be done at the main office, it is not his responsibility to report his return to his rented premises, but the responsibility of his landlord...who probably not is going to report anything......Exactly, his landlord will probably be Thai, and the worse that can happen is a small fine. My friend could find himself refused his extension, and need to buy an additional air ticket,
Have you ever heard of any person being denied their extension at Hua Hin Immigration because of the lack of a TM30 report?Yes, we've had such instances reported on this Forum. I have no desire to find them, but those people had no reason to lie.
Chang Wattana is another story...they use the TM30 (or rather lack of it) to blackmail their clients to contribute to the tea box....No bribe....no extension.....
But we are in Hua Hin, where they thankfully not are very strict in enforcing the TM30-nonsense....So instead of getting paranoid.....let us enjoy, that we belong to a good immigration office.

I will do it. It won't take long. I prefer to comply with the law. As for my friend, as you say, and I agree, it is the landlord's responsibility. If I don't get an answer, I will ask my wife to speak to his landlord. One way or another we'll get the report done.

[lomuamart]

As said above, it depends on the office.

I did one of my extensions a few years ago and the lady stapled some other bit of paper into my passport. The great thing is that it's not dated so ... I assume that's the thingy but I can't see any TM whatever number on it. It's not the entry card.

I'm with a few in this debate in as much as don't volunteer anything that's not asked for.

[Big Boy]

But is that not the point? They are asking for it now.

[lomuamart]

Oh shit, it does have a date on it. How did I miss that? I've looked at it a million times but there I go.

I'm going to be hung, drawn and quartered.

I still don't think I'll be sent to one of those penal islands with the rohingya.

[lomuamart]

But is that not the point? They are asking for it now.

They're asking for it in HH?

[T.O.M.]

But is that not the point? They are asking for it now.

They're asking for it in HH?

We are wasting our time....
BB has decided to follow the law...even if it is not enforced in HH....Inconvenience for him, his friend, his wife, the landlord and the immigration officer....But each to their own.
BB . Your friend will not be refused his extension because of the missing TM30.....Worst case scenario....(which I doubt very much will happen in HH) he will be asked to fill in a TM 30 and pay a fine of 800 baht...and then he will get his extension.
As for people being denied their extension because of the lack of the TM30 report.....looked through the forum and the only post about it, I could find, was from Muang Thani.....NOT HH

[Big Boy]

A couple of minutes effort after a trip away isn't going to hurt anybody. There is even an online version for those who want their lives to be even easier. If you live n Hua Hin, I honestly don't understand the objection, but each to his own.

[lomuamart]

Actually, after a 30 hour door-to-door journey back from the UK recently, I do consider that a visit to Imm for this TM30 thing is a pain the next day. I'm knackered, probably hungover, hot and just can't see the point especially as I already gave my address on the arrival card the day before, have also given it at any 90 day report and most importantly have given it for my annual extension. It's madness and I've never done it.

OK, I'm a criminal now and might be fined. If I am then so be it. But I will make my point at Imm as I pass the money over and it does not help that an increasing number of us expats turn up at local offices, cap in hand, and get the officers thinking "hey there's a way to make a bit of money".

What next in HH? Will some people start reporting after 24 hours out of this province? Bloody hell, I go and play golf at Springfield or Lakeview. They are in Petchaburi province. Unlikely, I know, but if I stay the night then I've got to report my arrival back in Prachuab? Forget it. I go and play in Ratchaburi or Kanchaburi and do stay the night. Report? forget it. If we go to BKK to get my wife a visa for the UK, as we did recently, do Imm expect me to report the next day if we overnight there? It's insane.

That's just my view and I will not volunteer any information about my movements within this country as I don't think I've done anything wrong - except for breaking some stupid, archaic Imm law.

So, fine me.

And this online reporting? Are you mixing that up with the 90 day report, BB, because from what I've read even that doesn't work most of the time? I know that there's supposed to the equivalent for this crazy rule but have you done it?

I used to try and give lots of advice on this form about Thai visa matters but that was always from a personal practical point of view rather than being to the letter of the law which is extremely flexible to say the least. I always used to advise to be prepared but never volunteer anything that isn't asked for. I always followed my own advice and went with masses of documents at annual extension time but 90% of those papers stayed in the file.

I feel the same way about this reporting business. Maybe it'll eventually cost me some money in fines. If that's the case then I'll post on here.

[Henry 14th]

A couple of minutes effort after a trip away isn't going to hurt anybody. There is even an online version for those who want their lives to be even easier. If you live n Hua Hin, I honestly don't understand the objection, but each to his own.

My thoughts exactly. As immigration officers seem to take joy out of making visa extensions as unpleasant for the Alien as possible, why give them additional rope when a visit to the office is all it takes to comply.

It’s a pain in the ass, but so is living back in the UK. I reason that 3 hours each year in the Immigration office to remain complainant is a fair trade off for being able to live here on a permanent basis.

As you said BB, each to their own.


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[Big Boy]

What next in HH? Will some people start reporting after 24 hours out of this province?

That is exactly what I'm talking about in my questions.

And this online reporting? Are you mixing that up with the 90 day report, BB

I have never tried it myself yet, but it is advice being given on this thread. In fact, now that you've reminded me, I'll see if I can get Mrs BB registered now.

[T.O.M.]

lomuamart wrote:
"OK, I'm a criminal now and might be fined. If I am then so be it. But I will make my point at Imm as I pass the money over and it does not help that an increasing number of us expats turn up at local offices, cap in hand, and get the officers thinking "hey there's a way to make a bit of money". Quote

Exactly my point....And the more people, who believe BB's scaremongering....No TM30 = No extension and show up at the local immigration to report their whereabouts to earn the 'immigration gold star', the bigger the risk, that HH will eventually start to enforce the law.
I hope that all the 'good and law abiding expats' are carrying their original passport with them 24/7/365....because that is the law...not a copy or a picture but the real original passport...
@ lomuamart....Excellent post above....!!