Property in Hua Hin

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Why are you unable to just accept that some people prefer buying to renting without all the immature comments about intelligence levels, 'crappy villages' with 'gossiping'... do you believe there are no sub-standard properties outside developments... do you really believe Thais do not gossip and spread rumours
It's only an opinion but my wording was wrong.... I knew the term 'stupid' would kick be in the butt after I made ther post (and my edit facilty had expired :cry: )

But going back to the farang housing estate thing. I just HATE it. Why would you travel half way round the world into a beautiful country with beautiful people then go and hole yourself up into a farang community rather then integrate with the Thais. Something similiar happens with the immigrants of the Uk and that has just worked a treat... no it reeeaally has :? .

As you mentioned SJ you probably offer many places outside of the 'farang only' places so I'm not having a dig at you but rather the buyers for doing this. You know as well as I (actually you know more than I) that 90% of the foreigners that stay in those places literally don't even try to give the Thai way a go, don't try / never learn the language because they never hear it and never get to grips with the Thai way of life as bar a few restaurants hardly venture out anywhere.

Sorry but this is a sour point for me.... people that come here and couldn't care less if they had any Thai friends or could speak the lingo etc. Yes they are bringing the mighty buck with them to put into someones pocket but that doesn't excuse them from having to try to adjust to THEIR way of life.' No, scrap understanding 'them' I'll just moan about 'them''

We scream and shout about those same kind of people in the Uk but when we do it ourselves in someone elses country it doesn't seem to matter. :wink:
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Interesting read, think there are valid points on both sides of the argument. I think if there is one rule that holds true in any country when buying property it is "Location, location, location", if you want to buy and you would like to think that the value of your property will rise then bear this in mind. Also look for a location that is not fully exploited yet and yet is popular with the Bangkok Thais, they rarely get their investment wrong.
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Hi GlCQuantum.

I just wondered if you are in a full time relationship, because most of what you say seems to be thinking about your-self. I would like you to think about couples Married or not, where the husband still works in their home country or abroad, he need to know his wife or partner has some form of security, Farang villages (as you put it) offer one form or another of security for ladies living alone.

Do you or have you ever Lived in a resort type estate in Thailand? Many different nationalities, including all Thai families, not Just English guys who have joined some sort of W.I as you seem to suggest in around about way, and spend there days sitting around gossiping about what is or isn’t happening 3 doors down.

And sat at your computer Moaning about the so- called farang type estates is
In actual fact some what the same, doing what you’re accusing others who live in these places of doing.
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because most of what you say seems to be thinking about your-self
Don't really get what you mean here. The way I read it is most of what I am saying is thinking about the Thai people.
Farang villages (as you put it) offer one form or another of security for ladies living alone.
Possibly the worst place you could stick a woman living alone IMHO for various reason which should be obvious.
Do you or have you ever Lived in a resort type estate in Thailand? Many different nationalities, including all Thai families, not Just English guys who have joined some sort of W.I as you seem to suggest in around about way, and spend there days sitting around gossiping about what is or isn’t happening 3 doors down.
As I said it is only an opinion based on my experiences. 7 years isn't really enough to get to know how ALL the different estates are. My opinions are based on the ones I have been to and the people I have met.
And sat at your computer Moaning about the so- called farang type estates is
In actual fact some what the same, doing what you’re accusing others who live in these places of doing.
It isn't though is it. I am merely illustrating the point that guys that go to live in these places more often than not stay living and thinking like they did in the country they came from which IN MY OPINION (just to emphasize those last three words there :wink: ) is criminal when you become a guest in someone elses country.

If some of the things ring true to you no need to get worked up about it. Its all just words on a forum.
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I would tend to agree with a lot of what is being said.

I like the idea of a house on a 'farang style estate' because its looked after when we arent there, it has some form of security, a communal pool, club house and maybe a shop.

However, I am not someone to stay in the estate all day. I want to mix with Thais, learn the culture, the language, integrate into their society. These are some of the reasons why we like it there. Otherwise we might as well stay in the UK.

We already have Thai friends in the HH area and hope to gain more friends, Thai and European, as we spend more time there.

Neither of us plan to work in Thailand so we will both have to travel to and fro between Thailand and the UK, to satisfy our professional obligations and at times one or the other of us may well be alone in the Thai house, so its important that we are able to function as individuals and feel secure in the knowledge that we know what we are doing, have friends over there, able to speak the language, etc.

Im going to shut up now cos I feel a 'ramble' coming on. :)))
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GlCQuantum.

Sorry if you think my wording was a little strong, this was not my intention, I’m not worked up about your post.
However Your opinion that 90% of Farangs living in a crappy little farang village estate with all the rumor spreading, moaning and everything else that happens in the farang estates, don’t care less if they have Thai friend, speak Thai seems high, also I don’t think these problems are unique to any area of a community. As far as Thai ladies living in these estates I think you really need to ask a few that live there, sure you will find that the quite enjoy it.
I would like think the only thing that rings true, that I’m guilty of living on an estate, maybe you should take a trip out someday meet a few people and have a beer. :cheers:
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In France I knew lots of Brits who had been there 10 years and had not progressed beyond "bonjour". Nothing new about these kinds of expats all over the world.
As for "integrating" into Thai society, dream on.
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GLCQuantum wrote:
Ken. P wrote:because most of what you say seems to be thinking about your-self
Don't really get what you mean here. The way I read it is most of what I am saying is thinking about the Thai people.
Of course it's about you, this minor hang up you have with a certain type of 'farang-village' dweller has got you making all kinds of incorrect (imo) generalizations about the type of people that live there and nonsense about not being able to integrate with Thais as a result. Sure many of them don't want to 'integrate' bar a chit-chat with their favourite waitress at the local restaurant, but I see zero to get bothered about with these types, they are no trouble to anyone and are of benefit to Thais with their spending, to me this is far better than trying to integrate, hitting that wall and spending the rest of your days on message boards whining about how the nasty Thais won't change their ways to suit you. You get younger non-family farangs on these estates, those with Thai/farang families, older retirees with farang wife and they're probably doing more integrating 'neighborhood-wise' when one of the wives has them over for dinner than you or me will living outside an estate. I never talk to the neighbours bar a 'hello', the Thais I do 'integrate' with when at home are wife's family/friends that come over. And no doubt this would be no different if I was on a village, or at least not aware that any of them have any prejudices against gates and sleeping security guards :D

My guess is your 'thing' is with the 4x4 driving, obnoxious & up-emselves crowd you've had to deal with at work, and there we'd be on the same wavelength, I've seen them all at Yam-saard the maniacs :D Most live on these estates as they feel comfortable and safe with familiar surroundings, plus that is where maybe 90% of the 'Western standard' houses are located, that could play a role!! And re: "living and thinking like they did in the country they came from which is criminal when you become a guest in someone elses country" ... so if living outside one makes us feel more a part of the Thai community then why on earth would we want to join a British-style pool league hanging out in farang bars and over karaoke the minute we arrive here?... personally speaking it was the familiar surroundings of my fellow countrymen plus the cheese & pickle sandwiches. You?


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Ken. P wrote:Farang villages (as you put it) offer one form or another of security for ladies living alone.
Possibly the worst place you could stick a woman living alone IMHO for various reason which should be obvious.
As with integrating it's nothing to do with location but attitude imho, if the wife still has the flash car, the same expensive electrical contents (laptops, phones, camera, rabbits etc) in the house and same gold around her neck then she'd still be targetted, and more chance of getting noticed by the local thieves. Thai thieves aren't prejudiced either, it's not some fad that came in 8 years ago with farang estates. This thing about how 'I've gone all native and get down with the locals' maybe be cool and all that but when someone's saying it in a farang bar with a face full of bintaburger it's just code for 'yeah I'd like me own house but I didn't stay working long enough for one at home'. Those that are actually happy and content renting as that's what best suits their lifestyle, plans etc don't feel the need to rant, their quite content.



I totally agree with you though that many of the estates are too cramped, with too many houses, using cack materials like blue roof tiles (so buy a larger property on a luxury estate then), but I think you'd be struggling to explain how a typical Thai house is any less crap :? I'd also agree that a staggering disproportianate number of farangs here have quite worrying personality disorders that must border class A retardation, but surely that's more the personality than the property!? I don't know whether random generalizations are an early symptom of the above or not, but if you do home-tutoring for a 4 year old under 400B/hr, please pm me.

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Well said SJ.....couldn't have put it better myself.

Here in Khon Kaen there are a couple of "anti farang estate" moaners on our own Forum. I know one of them and it doesn't take a rocket scientist or Sigmund Freud to understand the "real" reason....ie...jealousy,resentment and self loathing of his own predicament.

i don't know GLC Q so I hesitate to put him that bracket but it does border on "pure tosh" and poor judgement. :cuss:
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"Rabbits?" :shock: :?
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hhfarang wrote:"Rabbits?" :shock: :?
Yeah they're rampant round our way.

:cheers:
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Never to old to learn! :oops: :oops: :oops: :shock:
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GLCQuantum wrote:
Ken. P wrote:
because most of what you say seems to be thinking about your-self
Don't really get what you mean here. The way I read it is most of what I am saying is thinking about the Thai people.
Of course it's about you, this minor hang up you have with a certain type of 'farang-village' dweller has got you making all kinds of incorrect (imo) generalizations about the type of people that live there and nonsense about not being able to integrate with Thais as a result. Sure many of them don't want to 'integrate' bar a chit-chat with their favourite waitress at the local restaurant, but I see zero to get bothered about with these types, they are no trouble to anyone and are of benefit to Thais with their spending, to me this is far better than trying to integrate, hitting that wall and spending the rest of your days on message boards whining about how the nasty Thais won't change their ways to suit you. You get younger non-family farangs on these estates, those with Thai/farang families, older retirees with farang wife and they're probably doing more integrating 'neighborhood-wise' when one of the wives has them over for dinner than you or me will living outside an estate. I never talk to the neighbours bar a 'hello', the Thais I do 'integrate' with when at home are wife's family/friends that come over. And no doubt this would be no different if I was on a village, or at least not aware that any of them have any prejudices against gates and sleeping security guards

My guess is your 'thing' is with the 4x4 driving, obnoxious & up-emselves crowd you've had to deal with at work, and there we'd be on the same wavelength, I've seen them all at Yam-saard the maniacs Most live on these estates as they feel comfortable and safe with familiar surroundings, plus that is where maybe 90% of the 'Western standard' houses are located, that could play a role!! And re: "living and thinking like they did in the country they came from which is criminal when you become a guest in someone elses country" ... so if living outside one makes us feel more a part of the Thai community then why on earth would we want to join a British-style pool league hanging out in farang bars and over karaoke the minute we arrive here?... personally speaking it was the familiar surroundings of my fellow countrymen plus the cheese & pickle sandwiches. You?
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Ken. P wrote:
Farang villages (as you put it) offer one form or another of security for ladies living alone.
Possibly the worst place you could stick a woman living alone IMHO for various reason which should be obvious.
As with integrating it's nothing to do with location but attitude imho, if the wife still has the flash car, the same expensive electrical contents (laptops, phones, camera, rabbits etc) in the house and same gold around her neck then she'd still be targetted, and more chance of getting noticed by the local thieves. Thai thieves aren't prejudiced either, it's not some fad that came in 8 years ago with farang estates. This thing about how 'I've gone all native and get down with the locals' maybe be cool and all that but when someone's saying it in a farang bar with a face full of bintaburger it's just code for 'yeah I'd like me own house but I didn't stay working long enough for one at home'. Those that are actually happy and content renting as that's what best suits their lifestyle, plans etc don't feel the need to rant, their quite content.

I totally agree with you though that many of the estates are too cramped, with too many houses, using cack materials like blue roof tiles (so buy a larger property on a luxury estate then), but I think you'd be struggling to explain how a typical Thai house is any less crap I'd also agree that a staggering disproportianate number of farangs here have quite worrying personality disorders that must border class A retardation, but surely that's more the personality than the property!? I don't know whether random generalizations are an early symptom of the above or not, but if you do home-tutoring for a 4 year old under 400B/hr, please pm me.
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I've really got to learn to keep myself out of topics which I, to be honest, know diddly squat about and can't reply with anything as good as the above. As I keep saying - The basis of my argument is just from what I've seen and if you take into account the expat population and how many of those you can associate with in the space of a few years my experiences are with a very minor percentage of the group.

As I have been living in Bangkok for the last three years and things change a lot, it just gives an even bigger reason to know when to shut up :wink:

Regarding the next part though which some nugget called sateeb wrote....
Well said SJ.....couldn't have put it better myself.

Here in Khon Kaen there are a couple of "anti farang estate" moaners on our own Forum. I know one of them and it doesn't take a rocket scientist or Sigmund Freud to understand the "real" reason....ie...jealousy,resentment and self loathing of his own predicament.

i don't know GLC Q so I hesitate to put him that bracket but it does border on "pure tosh" and poor judgement.
Fortunately those things don't come into the equation too much when you're 28 :wink: I'll let you know how I feel when I've grown up a little. :D
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Never been called a "nugget" before...Is that "cockerney" rhyming slang?????????
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Prefer my little standalone myself but that is a personal choice. Got 3 dogs running around freely but no rabbits which would probably be banned by some self imposed officious, self elected (because nobody else could be bothered to do it) residents association jobsworth on account of they could spread miximotosis or were offensive to Eskimos. :roll:

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