My sense is that his greed/corruption exceeded even the hugely generous capacity for tolerance the Thais have.
I also tend to think that General Prem and others saw that Mr. Tee posed a very real threat to take over the Thai state and its institutions for personal gain. Similar to what has been happening in another large democracy where a fascist cabal has subverted institutions of freedom.
I do believe HM would not have condoned the coup without strong reason to believe the country was at risk of being undermined.
Thai coup leader admits little proof of Thaksin corruption
Nice and diversed tread touching many issues, showing that politics and democracy ain't a peace of cake.
I hope a few thais are lurking in here, not nessecerally the point of views, but more the free discussion of polital issues - thats one of political influences ex-pat have on the community - small but...... oups - from another tread
In Europe we get limited information on the topic, but most people do believe the alligations made - proven or not
It's said here that MrT and the general have contact over phone.
I hope a few thais are lurking in here, not nessecerally the point of views, but more the free discussion of polital issues - thats one of political influences ex-pat have on the community - small but...... oups - from another tread
In Europe we get limited information on the topic, but most people do believe the alligations made - proven or not
It's said here that MrT and the general have contact over phone.
The charm of asia is more than the girlies !
thai coup leader admits little proof of thaksin corruption
I dont know where to start
No norseman i have not spoken to any isaan farmers who got 200/400 baht because i dont need to go there read my lips, both i say again both partys were doling out cash right here in hua hin. But some posters only want to talk trt, balanced well thought out fair evenhanded i dont think so
Thai wife 22 years 37.22% of my life penis size my business
The visa clampdown was under direct pressure from the good ole U.S of effing A. As i have said i dont want to see one good person suffer at all but i suspect some collaterall damage and if there is, blame bush and in particular a certain mr Armitage who brought the msge stick from the white house
Dawn try a dependancy visa i am sure hua hin imm will be most helpfull.
No i dont get any inside info but when falangs tell me they are in contact directly with the primeministers office i look for a straight jacket
Yes i do listen to my thai friends and the accusations are thai accusations not falang, falangs are just regurgitating them.BTW i asked my thai friends this morning about the voters booths none of them had heard of it I am not saying it did not happen somewhere but the way you depict it it was a law passed, if it was it did not happen here
Buksida correct the operative word is not always.AND THAT IS MY BEEF.
as for thai indifference to politics i dont see that around me. They have strong views but keep their powder dry which to me shows a lot more inteligence than falangs. (give them credit for)
Wanderlust it wasnt you that pulled my chain but you are correct the shenanigens of BOTH parties was pointed out as you now correctly say
I will also defend anyones right to hold any opinion as long as any criminal accusations are provable
If you have the proof take it to the correct authorities if not wait until they have finished and you never know you might find me right in front of you
At this stage greed and corruption are under investigation full stop.but his ego is their for all to see and fair comment
I will make it crystal clear i was falsely accused and went through 3/6 months of hell until exonerated completely but there are still arseholes who say no smoke without fire
which in simple language means the lying 2 faced arsehole that falsely accused me got away with a win and it is wrong wrong wrong wrong
The coup leader made his reasons abundantly clear in his speach right after the coup. It had to be that night as rallies by both TRT and opposition were lining up for a clash the next day. He stated corruption and croneism by TRT
The same man who now as per this thread says little corruption found
Last question how much is little (to me there is or there isnt) but unlike the regurgitators i will wait and see
No norseman i have not spoken to any isaan farmers who got 200/400 baht because i dont need to go there read my lips, both i say again both partys were doling out cash right here in hua hin. But some posters only want to talk trt, balanced well thought out fair evenhanded i dont think so
Thai wife 22 years 37.22% of my life penis size my business
The visa clampdown was under direct pressure from the good ole U.S of effing A. As i have said i dont want to see one good person suffer at all but i suspect some collaterall damage and if there is, blame bush and in particular a certain mr Armitage who brought the msge stick from the white house
Dawn try a dependancy visa i am sure hua hin imm will be most helpfull.
No i dont get any inside info but when falangs tell me they are in contact directly with the primeministers office i look for a straight jacket
Yes i do listen to my thai friends and the accusations are thai accusations not falang, falangs are just regurgitating them.BTW i asked my thai friends this morning about the voters booths none of them had heard of it I am not saying it did not happen somewhere but the way you depict it it was a law passed, if it was it did not happen here
Buksida correct the operative word is not always.AND THAT IS MY BEEF.
as for thai indifference to politics i dont see that around me. They have strong views but keep their powder dry which to me shows a lot more inteligence than falangs. (give them credit for)
Wanderlust it wasnt you that pulled my chain but you are correct the shenanigens of BOTH parties was pointed out as you now correctly say
I will also defend anyones right to hold any opinion as long as any criminal accusations are provable
If you have the proof take it to the correct authorities if not wait until they have finished and you never know you might find me right in front of you
At this stage greed and corruption are under investigation full stop.but his ego is their for all to see and fair comment
I will make it crystal clear i was falsely accused and went through 3/6 months of hell until exonerated completely but there are still arseholes who say no smoke without fire
which in simple language means the lying 2 faced arsehole that falsely accused me got away with a win and it is wrong wrong wrong wrong
The coup leader made his reasons abundantly clear in his speach right after the coup. It had to be that night as rallies by both TRT and opposition were lining up for a clash the next day. He stated corruption and croneism by TRT
The same man who now as per this thread says little corruption found
Last question how much is little (to me there is or there isnt) but unlike the regurgitators i will wait and see
A Greatfull Guest of Thailand
Maybe you should run for the position of PM then seeing as you obviously know everything and are just as arrogant as the last wanker.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thailand_l ... April_2006
It doesnt matter whether both parties are corrupt, only one is being investigated and only one man and his family have made billions from this country.
I have no idea what your reference to dry powder means, you must be surrounded by students, and as for questioning the intelligence of farangs try looking in the mirror, you are one of them.
Since this thread was started over a news article heres another:
Thaksin-era corruption cost state Bt400 bn
Your Thai friends should learn how to use the internet for research (bottom of the page):BTW i asked my thai friends this morning about the voters booths none of them had heard of it I am not saying it did not happen somewhere but the way you depict it it was a law passed, if it was it did not happen here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thailand_l ... April_2006
It doesnt matter whether both parties are corrupt, only one is being investigated and only one man and his family have made billions from this country.
I have no idea what your reference to dry powder means, you must be surrounded by students, and as for questioning the intelligence of farangs try looking in the mirror, you are one of them.
Your personal problems are of no concern of this forum, nobody gives a rats arse.I will make it crystal clear i was falsely accused and went through 3/6 months of hell until exonerated completely
Since this thread was started over a news article heres another:
Thaksin-era corruption cost state Bt400 bn
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Who is the happier man, he who has braved the storm of life and lived or he who has stayed securely on shore and merely existed? - Hunter S Thompson
thai coup leader admits little proof of thaksin corruption
Let me explain i parted compant with mr t when i realised he was so far up George Bushes backside when he asked john Howard to part his butt cheeks he could see all the way to the soles of Tony blairs boots.
That parting became a yawning chasm when he sent troops to Iraq with such arrogance and a totally crass disregard for the consequences in the south because his ego and ambition to play Dartagnan to Athos Porthos and Aramis and thus write his name in history were more important.
Many lives here in this beutiful country are lost forever. And that is enough for me.The corruption accusations pale into insignificance against that and after 22 years it is just business as usual.
And yet i still wont lump blame wrongly at his door The visa clampdown is down to the U.S.A. The coy law clampdown or whatever is happening,I hardly think he did it it would have been tantamount to putting his own dick in the mincer and turning the handle himself (although i accept it was his dealings that brought it into focus)
Yeeees i have read those articles and yes they are compelling but i will say it again there are no charges laid as of YET not one
On another thread i am told to stand by my bed and i was glad to read it but i will reitterate no charges as of YET have been laid and I AM standing by my bed thats exactely what i have MODERATELY been asking others to do. Only when charges are laid will i shout about it.
Lastly browbeating and personal insults and attacks are beneath my contempt But i will thankyou for the link very informative
That parting became a yawning chasm when he sent troops to Iraq with such arrogance and a totally crass disregard for the consequences in the south because his ego and ambition to play Dartagnan to Athos Porthos and Aramis and thus write his name in history were more important.
Many lives here in this beutiful country are lost forever. And that is enough for me.The corruption accusations pale into insignificance against that and after 22 years it is just business as usual.
And yet i still wont lump blame wrongly at his door The visa clampdown is down to the U.S.A. The coy law clampdown or whatever is happening,I hardly think he did it it would have been tantamount to putting his own dick in the mincer and turning the handle himself (although i accept it was his dealings that brought it into focus)
Yeeees i have read those articles and yes they are compelling but i will say it again there are no charges laid as of YET not one
On another thread i am told to stand by my bed and i was glad to read it but i will reitterate no charges as of YET have been laid and I AM standing by my bed thats exactely what i have MODERATELY been asking others to do. Only when charges are laid will i shout about it.
Lastly browbeating and personal insults and attacks are beneath my contempt But i will thankyou for the link very informative
A Greatfull Guest of Thailand
No progress in corruption probe
Post Today Editorial _ The Council for National Security (CNS) is under pressure to make good on its pledges given after the Sept 19 coup against Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra. Both civic and anti-Thaksin groups are unhappy about lack of progress in the investigation into alleged corruption and abuse of power under the Thaksin administration.
In addition to the alleged corruption, the CNS accused the Thaksin government of causing deep divisions in Thai society, intervening in the work of independent organisations, and committing actions considered insulting to the royal institution.
Suspicion grew against the CNS when some people seen as close to the Thaksin regime or linked to old power groups were appointed to the interim government and as head of the National Legislative Assembly.
The CNS has set up a new National Counter Corruption Commission (NCCC) and an Assets Investigation Committee (AIC) to look into suspected corruption and irregularities in the Thaksin government. More than a month has passed but there have been no tangible results on these cases.
Moreover, certain CNS members and cabinet ministers have displayed their willingness to compromise with members of the Thaksin government and high-ranking civil servants who had worked under the ousted administration.
The CNS will be blamed if no members of the Thaksin administration and high-ranking civil servants are found guilty of corruption.
Post Today Editorial _ The Council for National Security (CNS) is under pressure to make good on its pledges given after the Sept 19 coup against Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra. Both civic and anti-Thaksin groups are unhappy about lack of progress in the investigation into alleged corruption and abuse of power under the Thaksin administration.
In addition to the alleged corruption, the CNS accused the Thaksin government of causing deep divisions in Thai society, intervening in the work of independent organisations, and committing actions considered insulting to the royal institution.
Suspicion grew against the CNS when some people seen as close to the Thaksin regime or linked to old power groups were appointed to the interim government and as head of the National Legislative Assembly.
The CNS has set up a new National Counter Corruption Commission (NCCC) and an Assets Investigation Committee (AIC) to look into suspected corruption and irregularities in the Thaksin government. More than a month has passed but there have been no tangible results on these cases.
Moreover, certain CNS members and cabinet ministers have displayed their willingness to compromise with members of the Thaksin government and high-ranking civil servants who had worked under the ousted administration.
The CNS will be blamed if no members of the Thaksin administration and high-ranking civil servants are found guilty of corruption.
A The Nation Story.
Please come back Thaksin, we miss you badly!!
I never thought I would be saying this after just about 40 days, but the power vacuum (yes, you heard it right), tormented national soul-searching, the confusion and everything else caused by your absence are becoming unbearable.
And if you divided Thailand while you were in power, at least there were only Thaksin lovers and haters back then.
The free-for-all melee at the moment is heart-breaking, and how I miss that black-and-white landscape.
Come back. Just ignore those warnings and get on a plane. Trust me, the coup-makers are too polite to shoot anyone.
Here are some reasons I can think of to support my plea:
1. I miss the "sense of urgency". If it had been you who staged the coup, the game would have been well and truly over. I mean the corruption probe would have been given a three-week deadline, which would have been strictly enforced.
While I have sympathy for the coup leaders - who now have to uncover within only five weeks the whole truth of what happened over the past five years - they should learn to be ruthless, swift and market their action shrewdly.
2. There was a time when only a mention of your name made people stop fighting and join hands. Now it's vice versa.
You must be pleased to know that the likes of Kaewsan Atibodhi, Khunying Jaruvan Maintaka, Pridiyathorn Devakula and Nam Yimyaem have been engaged in daily brawls. The media community is also on the verge of breaking apart over whether it should have representatives in the coup-installed National Legislative Assembly.
3. Yes, the power vacuum. Your return may shape up the interim leadership, which critics say is looking like a rabbit caught in a headlight.
Those poor coup-makers are now caught between various social forces. Some want them to wield their power like a sword, while others demand respect for human rights and the Rule of Law. Best of all, there are those who interpret their every step as part of secret bargaining with you.
For your information, a well-known political activist who had campaigned against you has told us:
"They [the coup-makers] are incredible. They listen to everything we say. If we had even demanded a Cabinet position, we would have got it."
4. Which made me worried that while the coup-makers appear naive and amateurish, they can also be spoiled.
All roads are leading to them now, and they may be tempted to do a Thaksin by spreading gifts, offers and invitations all over the place - just to make new allies and pacify their critics.
The rifts among journalists following their peers' appointment to the NLA provides an ominous sense of deja vu and your return hopefully will remind everyone of the peril of conflicts of interest.
5. This may sound a rather selfish reason, but your non-presence seems to lighten the magnitude of your political sins. For example, now people are demanding to see "legal evidence" so as to be convinced that your wife's purchase of a government-auctioned plot of land was wrong.
You've got to feel sorry for the coup-makers who would never in this lifetime find anything legally wrong with, say, the telecom excise tax decree that boosted your business fortunes big time.
Come back and strike that old fear back into the heart of our civil society.
6. Thais' flawed conscience has to be further exposed. Come back and finish the job.
One of the reasons for the investigation into your and your previous government's scandals is the fact that virtually everyone got at least a little something from you during your reign.
Conflicts of interest were not only deep-rooted, but also very widespread. The probe must have hit a lot of stumbling blocks. Without your presence, some people will still be able to hide their guilt - which is most unfair to you.
7. Your era made people talk about principles and values, but your absence is threatening to highlight the nation's bad traits: short memory, fickleness, selfishness. You name it. Come back and return us to the black-and-white world.
I miss the surreal, romantic and ideological campaign against you and your government. I miss the days when we talked uncompromising conscience sincerely and in one voice. And I miss the days of unity (among your haters, that is) and the time when we all shared just one moral standard.
The "grey" world can be very painful, you know. Although all is not forgiven, please come back.
Tulsathit Taptim
Please come back Thaksin, we miss you badly!!
I never thought I would be saying this after just about 40 days, but the power vacuum (yes, you heard it right), tormented national soul-searching, the confusion and everything else caused by your absence are becoming unbearable.
And if you divided Thailand while you were in power, at least there were only Thaksin lovers and haters back then.
The free-for-all melee at the moment is heart-breaking, and how I miss that black-and-white landscape.
Come back. Just ignore those warnings and get on a plane. Trust me, the coup-makers are too polite to shoot anyone.
Here are some reasons I can think of to support my plea:
1. I miss the "sense of urgency". If it had been you who staged the coup, the game would have been well and truly over. I mean the corruption probe would have been given a three-week deadline, which would have been strictly enforced.
While I have sympathy for the coup leaders - who now have to uncover within only five weeks the whole truth of what happened over the past five years - they should learn to be ruthless, swift and market their action shrewdly.
2. There was a time when only a mention of your name made people stop fighting and join hands. Now it's vice versa.
You must be pleased to know that the likes of Kaewsan Atibodhi, Khunying Jaruvan Maintaka, Pridiyathorn Devakula and Nam Yimyaem have been engaged in daily brawls. The media community is also on the verge of breaking apart over whether it should have representatives in the coup-installed National Legislative Assembly.
3. Yes, the power vacuum. Your return may shape up the interim leadership, which critics say is looking like a rabbit caught in a headlight.
Those poor coup-makers are now caught between various social forces. Some want them to wield their power like a sword, while others demand respect for human rights and the Rule of Law. Best of all, there are those who interpret their every step as part of secret bargaining with you.
For your information, a well-known political activist who had campaigned against you has told us:
"They [the coup-makers] are incredible. They listen to everything we say. If we had even demanded a Cabinet position, we would have got it."
4. Which made me worried that while the coup-makers appear naive and amateurish, they can also be spoiled.
All roads are leading to them now, and they may be tempted to do a Thaksin by spreading gifts, offers and invitations all over the place - just to make new allies and pacify their critics.
The rifts among journalists following their peers' appointment to the NLA provides an ominous sense of deja vu and your return hopefully will remind everyone of the peril of conflicts of interest.
5. This may sound a rather selfish reason, but your non-presence seems to lighten the magnitude of your political sins. For example, now people are demanding to see "legal evidence" so as to be convinced that your wife's purchase of a government-auctioned plot of land was wrong.
You've got to feel sorry for the coup-makers who would never in this lifetime find anything legally wrong with, say, the telecom excise tax decree that boosted your business fortunes big time.
Come back and strike that old fear back into the heart of our civil society.
6. Thais' flawed conscience has to be further exposed. Come back and finish the job.
One of the reasons for the investigation into your and your previous government's scandals is the fact that virtually everyone got at least a little something from you during your reign.
Conflicts of interest were not only deep-rooted, but also very widespread. The probe must have hit a lot of stumbling blocks. Without your presence, some people will still be able to hide their guilt - which is most unfair to you.
7. Your era made people talk about principles and values, but your absence is threatening to highlight the nation's bad traits: short memory, fickleness, selfishness. You name it. Come back and return us to the black-and-white world.
I miss the surreal, romantic and ideological campaign against you and your government. I miss the days when we talked uncompromising conscience sincerely and in one voice. And I miss the days of unity (among your haters, that is) and the time when we all shared just one moral standard.
The "grey" world can be very painful, you know. Although all is not forgiven, please come back.
Tulsathit Taptim
I intend to live forever - so far so good.
coup leader admits little proof of thaksin corruption
Thanks for that post richard although i am confused after your previous post.
My position hasnt changed one iota and all my previous posts are saying exactely the same based on my personal experience.
I would like to put all the people that make unproven accusations go through what i went through and they would toot sweet change their attitudes.
As for freedom of speech i have to quote ( a man i despise) bill orielly because he is dead right bang on when he states freedom of speech comes with responsibility.(I just wish he would practice what he preaches)
I would like to know if i can knock you of the nobody gives a rats arse list
I am a totally independant thinker and no bloody sheep I am prepared to listen i am prepared to study and when wrong i am fully ready to say so which browbeaters rarely are. ( spleen vented)
Steve g s post very illuminating and worrying makes me wonder what the title of this thread was all about a warning not to fabricate evidence perchance or as some other post said a come on ploy (stand by my bed )
Norsemans post had me chuckling with my lately bestowed know it all status i will bet the writer had a good meal of nam pik tongue in cheek with a side dish of gangsom sarcasm
My position hasnt changed one iota and all my previous posts are saying exactely the same based on my personal experience.
I would like to put all the people that make unproven accusations go through what i went through and they would toot sweet change their attitudes.
As for freedom of speech i have to quote ( a man i despise) bill orielly because he is dead right bang on when he states freedom of speech comes with responsibility.(I just wish he would practice what he preaches)
I would like to know if i can knock you of the nobody gives a rats arse list
I am a totally independant thinker and no bloody sheep I am prepared to listen i am prepared to study and when wrong i am fully ready to say so which browbeaters rarely are. ( spleen vented)
Steve g s post very illuminating and worrying makes me wonder what the title of this thread was all about a warning not to fabricate evidence perchance or as some other post said a come on ploy (stand by my bed )
Norsemans post had me chuckling with my lately bestowed know it all status i will bet the writer had a good meal of nam pik tongue in cheek with a side dish of gangsom sarcasm
A Greatfull Guest of Thailand
Re: coup leader admits little proof of thaksin corruption
Absolutely spot on.sargeant wrote: As for freedom of speech i have to quote ( a man i despise) bill orielly because he is dead right bang on when he states freedom of speech comes with responsibility
If only this was praticed more widely
Winkie
Semper in excretia sumus solim profundum variat
sarge, I admit my response may have been a little harsh however I do echo the thoughts of many forum members and many inhabitants of this country.
Simply because you have been wronged does not give you the right to disparage and insult others for having an opinion on Thai politics.
As you say freedom of speech comes with responsibility, this goes for both sides and since we have all been arguing over media reports there is no clear evidence of anything supporting or denying accusations so it really should be considered null and void.
However, you will never change people’s opinions of a man who has ruined so many lives regardless of whether the "officials" find him guilty or not.
Simply because you have been wronged does not give you the right to disparage and insult others for having an opinion on Thai politics.
As you say freedom of speech comes with responsibility, this goes for both sides and since we have all been arguing over media reports there is no clear evidence of anything supporting or denying accusations so it really should be considered null and void.
However, you will never change people’s opinions of a man who has ruined so many lives regardless of whether the "officials" find him guilty or not.
Who is the happier man, he who has braved the storm of life and lived or he who has stayed securely on shore and merely existed? - Hunter S Thompson
BANGKOK (Reuters) - Deposed Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, now in Beijing, will return home after martial law is lifted and may re-enter politics under a planned new constitution, his lawyer said on Thursday.
Noppadon Patama said the ousted billionaire telecoms tycoon had flown to China from London, where he has been since the September 19 coup, to "rest and meet friends" and had no immediate plans to return to his homeland.
"He will return to Thailand when it is the right time, when martial law is lifted," Noppadon, a British-educated lawyer, told reporters. "He will consider returning to politics when the constitution is written up."
Earlier on Thursday, coup leader and army chief Sonthi Boonyaratglin, who has made clear Thaksin would not be welcome in Thailand any time soon, said the issue of his return would be in the hands of the interim, army-appointed government.
"If he wants to come back to Thailand he has to contact the government, not the Council for National Security," Sonthi said.
Thailand remains under martial law, although there are few signs of the Council for National Security -- the body formed by the coup leaders who retain the power to fire the government -- enforcing bans on political gatherings and critical reporting.
The government has said many times it will lift martial law "as soon as possible".
Thai media said this week that Thaksin planned to meet his successor, Surayud Chulanont, at a Southeast Asian leaders meeting in China, although Surayud and Chinese officials denied the reports.
Since booting out Thaksin in Thailand's 18th coup in 74 years of on-off democracy, Sonthi has admitted that the generals are struggling to come up with solid evidence to back up their claims of "rampant corruption" under his administration.
Noppadon Patama said the ousted billionaire telecoms tycoon had flown to China from London, where he has been since the September 19 coup, to "rest and meet friends" and had no immediate plans to return to his homeland.
"He will return to Thailand when it is the right time, when martial law is lifted," Noppadon, a British-educated lawyer, told reporters. "He will consider returning to politics when the constitution is written up."
Earlier on Thursday, coup leader and army chief Sonthi Boonyaratglin, who has made clear Thaksin would not be welcome in Thailand any time soon, said the issue of his return would be in the hands of the interim, army-appointed government.
"If he wants to come back to Thailand he has to contact the government, not the Council for National Security," Sonthi said.
Thailand remains under martial law, although there are few signs of the Council for National Security -- the body formed by the coup leaders who retain the power to fire the government -- enforcing bans on political gatherings and critical reporting.
The government has said many times it will lift martial law "as soon as possible".
Thai media said this week that Thaksin planned to meet his successor, Surayud Chulanont, at a Southeast Asian leaders meeting in China, although Surayud and Chinese officials denied the reports.
Since booting out Thaksin in Thailand's 18th coup in 74 years of on-off democracy, Sonthi has admitted that the generals are struggling to come up with solid evidence to back up their claims of "rampant corruption" under his administration.
coup leader admits little proof of thaksin corruption
Apology accepted
I have not disparaged nor insulted anyone i try very hard to be moderate in all my posts i used my experience to explain why i am not prepared to accuse until i have proof and asked others to refrain from doing so.
I see it as a sort of responsibility when something happens to me to try and help others if i see it happening elswhere no matter where it happens and even if the person may well deserve it, Presumtion of innocence and all that what.
so if it happens to you (and i really hope it doesnt) pm me ill be camped right behind you (that dont read right but i hope you understand where i am sat i will back you up right up to when they take you of to khlong tooey) you know what i mean
but in my 22 years in thailand and in your time involved as well you should know graft corruption allegations are more common than mosquito bites but they never result in anything worth talking about proven or unproven. I dont need to explain to you the footpath over main roads going nowhere now do i and buggerall happened in that case and that was proven in spades
It is as you say media reports and there is no clear evidence but as i am entitled to opine a lot of circumstantial evidence methinks watson i.e guesses post on another thread and others.But still no charges.
I have never tried to change their opinions in any way i am asking them to temper their language and to quote guess stand by their beds thats all
I do not read the nation or the bangkok post my info comes from the 2 thai language newspapers that were delivered to my house which as per another thread we now have to collect each day.
Can i go and stand by my bed now
Winkie thanks for that and dont i ever agree but even i can err occasionally so pull me if i do go off the rails
I have not disparaged nor insulted anyone i try very hard to be moderate in all my posts i used my experience to explain why i am not prepared to accuse until i have proof and asked others to refrain from doing so.
I see it as a sort of responsibility when something happens to me to try and help others if i see it happening elswhere no matter where it happens and even if the person may well deserve it, Presumtion of innocence and all that what.
so if it happens to you (and i really hope it doesnt) pm me ill be camped right behind you (that dont read right but i hope you understand where i am sat i will back you up right up to when they take you of to khlong tooey) you know what i mean
but in my 22 years in thailand and in your time involved as well you should know graft corruption allegations are more common than mosquito bites but they never result in anything worth talking about proven or unproven. I dont need to explain to you the footpath over main roads going nowhere now do i and buggerall happened in that case and that was proven in spades
It is as you say media reports and there is no clear evidence but as i am entitled to opine a lot of circumstantial evidence methinks watson i.e guesses post on another thread and others.But still no charges.
I have never tried to change their opinions in any way i am asking them to temper their language and to quote guess stand by their beds thats all
I do not read the nation or the bangkok post my info comes from the 2 thai language newspapers that were delivered to my house which as per another thread we now have to collect each day.
Can i go and stand by my bed now
Winkie thanks for that and dont i ever agree but even i can err occasionally so pull me if i do go off the rails
A Greatfull Guest of Thailand
coup leader admits little proof of thaksin corruption
Steve g next stop athos the pretzel choker ?????
A Greatfull Guest of Thailand