Hua Hin's back roads

[centermid7]

Update

The new road from Soi 94 over to 102 is now completed and open. It's a super highway compared to the dirt tracks that we have had to use. I'm surprised that they got it done so quickly.

True to form it's a mostly high centered road with the drains in the middle of the road! I will be very interested to see how it will affect the drainage on down to Soi 102 whenever we get some very heavy rains like we got last November that flooded 102 for about 4 weekends in a row.

Civil Engineering test question: In which direction does water normally run?

There is one section of the new road that has a field next to it that is about 1 meter above the road and guess where that water is going to go? There was no provision for a ditch there at all and it might just turn that super highway into a super canal as well.

Cheers

[Dannie Boy]

Update

The new road from Soi 94 over to 102 is now completed and open. It's a super highway compared to the dirt tracks that we have had to use. I'm surprised that they got it done so quickly.

True to form it's a mostly high centered road with the drains in the middle of the road! I will be very interested to see how it will affect the drainage on down to Soi 102 whenever we get some very heavy rains like we got last November that flooded 102 for about 4 weekends in a row.

Civil Engineering test question: In which direction does water normally run?

There is one section of the new road that has a field next to it that is about 1 meter above the road and guess where that water is going to go? There was no provision for a ditch there at all and it might just turn that super highway into a super canal as well.

Cheers

Normally down hill, unless you've got a pump on the end of it

[Frank La Rue]

Talking about backroads, one thing which spoils the value of many developments around Hua Hin area are the poorly developed and/or maintained access roads.

Searidge, The Falls, Phu Montra, The View, Panorma, the list goes on and on - beautifully developed villas 10 minutes from Hua Hin but the final leg to these developments is offputing.

It is unclear to me who owns these local access roads, whether it is the local county or private land owners etc, but for a developer to get the access roads fixed up as part of putting up the development would not necessarily cost a fortune when you spread the cost pre meter plot sold.

There seem to be no collaboration on this, whereas in a western concept the access to a nice development is part of the concept making it attractive to prospective buyers. I guess its TIT

[hhfarang]

^ In a lot of cases its a government road that was sealed but the development/developers themselves tore it up during development or after with no drainage around their walls except down the road. That's what happened to the beautiful neighborhood where we built our first house when we came here.

[Frank La Rue]

^ In a lot of cases its a government road that was sealed but the development/developers themselves tore it up during development or after with no drainage around their walls except down the road. That's what happened to the beautiful neighborhood where we built our first house when we came here.

Do not the developers have to work with local authorities to connect the development to the public water - infratructure? Usually these follow the road structures under neath - you have to dig up the road anyway and could make an effort to do do it up nicely afterwords, Still something here I do not understand.

[hhfarang]

^ LOL, dream on... TIT

[Frank La Rue]

^ LOL, dream on... TIT

So, how do developments cater for water supply - or dont they'

[hhfarang]

Depending on the location, they do connect to the city mains (and no, many of them don't care how badly they damage the road while doing this), or if no mains available they either dig a well or do nothing and the buyer has to figure out their own water supply. The problem is (like Takiap mentioned) also depending on location, even if you are connected to the mains that doesn't mean you will get water because it can get used up before it gets to your location.

The first two questions I've asked when purchasing, building on, or renting pieces of property in Thailand are "where does the water come from and is it reliable" and "does it have electrical access and is that reliable".

Unfortunately there are no guarantees about any part of infrastructure. Even if utility supplies are sufficient now that doesn't mean they'll be upgraded to handle the volume of future development, and even if you buy on a nice sealed road, you may find it a mudslide in a couple of years with the city not caring to do anything about it.

[hhinner]

A friend bought a house in a rather expensive development up the hill from Bo Fai. He says water is currently shipped in by tankers to the developments main tank. The plan is that town water will eventually be piped in. But as far as he knows there is no timescale for that yet.

[Frank La Rue]

hhfarang, hhinner,

thanks both. Having viewed a few developments in person, read on the net and followed discussions I am aware that one thing to ask is the volume of the water thank going with a particular house, it sounds like the thing to do always, is to check with people who allready live in the partcular development what their experience is with water supply and electricity.

On a side note - I have noticed that developments which look quite nice are spoiled by the rather dominant and uggly electricity poles cross and queer all over the place. Some developments, I read, do arrange for el. supply sub-terrain to hide it for this reason how dominant and ugly they are in your view.

[hhfarang]

Anyone have an update on the condition of the construction on west 94 (past 88 extension and beside Oy restaurant). I tried to go that way last week and it looked like motorbikes only.

It appears that this section is completed now. I came out a side road at the north end of the construction area today going the other way (west), but looking back down the section that goes by Oy's it looked finished and there were ladies sweeping the final dirt, dust, and rubble off of it.

[Henry 14th]

Yep confirmed, finished and pothole less for the time being!

The thinner section towards the bottom is not yet fully complete but it is drive able .


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[oakdale160]

The police had a blockset up on a back road this week, they were doing something that I had never seen before. Stopping Thai m'bikes and waving farang through. They were seriously searching the thais------ drugs????

[Pleng]

The police had a blockset up on a back road this week, they were doing something that I had never seen before. Stopping Thai m'bikes and waving farang through. They were seriously searching the thais------ drugs????

I got stopped at a police checkpoint on the new stretch between 94 and 102; it was a standard licence check at the time. I've often seen Thais stopped at these sort of checkpoints and been waved through myself, I think it's just down to timing; once they've stopped somebody they will then wave on the vehicles following - I'm sure there's just as big a percentage of unlicensed Thais as there are farrang.

My guess is that this was a routine stop and the driver was searched because he was acting suspiciously. The police block may have been for the sole purpose of drugs but my gut feeling is that when a new bit of road is put in place unlicensed drivers then to head for it, and regular drug dealers try and find a new route away from it.

[Homer]

I got stopped at a police checkpoint on the new stretch between 94 and 102; it was a standard licence check at the time.

Good to know about another checkpoint. Thanks.

A caution. Going south on this road, about 100m before 102 is a 90 degree left hand turn. One landmark is the barb wire fence on the left side of the road. Every time I've been through that corner since the road was paved, the corner had a non-trivial covering of tiny gravel and soil. It was enough that on a motorbike at slightly over walking speed I felt the front tire slip a bit. At that speed it wasn't dangerous.