Thailand Immigration: TM30 24 hour reporting thread

[Big Boy]

No, do it online as hotels do, and you cut out the human factor

[Nereus]

This is probably going to confuse rather help, but when we've had overseas visitors staying, even though Mrs BB has always taken the TM30, Immigration have asked to see our visitors in person as well.

And how is that achieved when doing it online as Immigration are insisting is the best way to do it?

[stretch]

Welcome to Thailand we regard everyone as a criminal.

[Big Boy]

This is probably going to confuse rather help, but when we've had overseas visitors staying, even though Mrs BB has always taken the TM30, Immigration have asked to see our visitors in person as well.

And how is that achieved when doing it online as Immigration are insisting is the best way to do it?

Sorry Nereus, not really sure what the question is

The online thingy is new to us, but we've always reported when visitors stay, which was manual. In future, we will definitely use the online method.

Additionally, I've been getting hung up on the first field departure date (or something similar). I now realise that field is not mandatory.

[Nereus]

This is probably going to confuse rather help, but when we've had overseas visitors staying, even though Mrs BB has always taken the TM30, Immigration have asked to see our visitors in person as well.

And how is that achieved when doing it online as Immigration are insisting is the best way to do it?

Sorry Nereus, not really sure what the question is

The online thingy is new to us, but we've always reported when visitors stay, which was manual. In future, we will definitely use the online method.

Additionally, I've been getting hung up on the first field departure date (or something similar). I now realise that field is not mandatory.

How do you "present" your guests over the Internet when reporting online? If you have to scan and send a copy of their documents, then it could be the documents belong to anybody. It proves nothing, just makes the whole thing more ridiculous. Please correct me if I am wrong, but as I understand it if you go away overnight to a football match, then when you come back your wife has to report that you have returned? Apart from being just plain stupid, it is a bloody INSULT to ask a wife to report where her husband is!

Then we have the do-gooders(not referring to you, but some of the comments posted in the Bangkok Post),saying but, but, but we are guests. BOVINE ORDURE! Every damn one of us here has paid for some type of visa(except Buksi whom snook off),to stay in this county. A lot of us own cars in our own name, plus a drivers licence, SOME of us even have a Yellow Card proving Buddha knows what.

If they put even 10% of the resources being used with this BS towards cleaning up the environment and reducing plastic use, then they may have a case!

[Big Boy]

This is why I have said several times (not sure if its on this thread), the online method bypasses the human factor.

Yes 100% correct about the footie. Agree, its an insult.

I also agree the entire process is bonkers. I comply because it is no hardship to me. I often spend 4 or more hours each way travelling to a footie match. An extra half hour isn't going to kill me - I'm retired, and have plenty of time on my hands. Definitely not doing it to gain a gold star, but I often do such things out of curiosity e.g. I obtained the Yellow Book/Pink ID, not because I felt I had to, but pure curiosity (and the ease somebody else, not living in Hua Hin, obtained theirs).

[lomuamart]

I don't even understand the difference between a TM30 and 28. Or maybe I do a a little bit now?

Either way, it wasn't an issue today at annual extension stage. I have, I think, a TM30 in my passport. It doesn't say what form it is but it's been there for years as I've said on another thread.

I don't know what the solution is. The officer missed it so I'll be done next time? He liked me because I was well prepared (and there were some idiots in there)? Or it just doesn't matter that much to them?

I'd like to think that it's the third but who knows?

[HHTel]

Then we have the do-gooders(not referring to you, but some of the comments posted in the Bangkok Post),saying but, but, but we are guests.

The most ridiculous comment from any visitor. I've said many times here that by no stretch of the imagination are we guests. Guests are invited. We are not. Would you treat your guests in the way we are treated here? Of course not!

We are here under sufferance.

[REEM]

How does one obtain the pink ID card?

[buksida]

How does one obtain the pink ID card?

Comes with the yellow book, full details here: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=32552

It seems that to avoid being reported by hotels, the pink ID card maybe the way to check in. That is until the junta outlaw farangs booking hotels without a passport.

[laphanphon]

Then we have the do-gooders(not referring to you, but some of the comments posted in the Bangkok Post),saying but, but, but we are guests.

The most ridiculous comment from any visitor. I've said many times here that by no stretch of the imagination are we guests. Guests are invited. We are not. Would you treat your guests in the way we are treated here? Of course not!

We are here under sufferance.

I believe most voluntarily came to Thailand, and all the rules / laws were on the books before their arrival.

Would expect guest / visitors to obey the rules of the country, they are visiting, or they chose to live in, as a condition of being allowed to.

I certainly want and expect immigrants / visitors to my home country to follow the laws, as silly as they may be. They are the laws.

Not saying I agree with, or follow all the rules, but I'm certainly not going to tell, or suggest them to change them. Especially as rudely as some do, with total disrespect.

That 'chain of command' thing, and complaints to our totally useless embassy's should be doing the talking for us.

I know when people attempt to force their opinions on me, and tell me what to do, or how I should do things, I tend to do the opposite.......just for spite. Thai surely are no different. That face thing.

I'm sure Thai IO are taking it just the same as we would..........now more and more are and will be enforcing the rules, as has been reported recently. Is it a coincidence that the vocal few, and scammers taking advantage of things lately along with the tightening of everything has been happening lately.....coincidence. I think not.
They got to be tired of the constant criticizing, crying and complaining about how they do things. Som naa na to us .... now, all of us ... unfortunately. Thank you very much.

When you go to IMM, and bring up the TM30, are you questioning and complaining about it, or simply thanking them for not enforcing. Sugar usually works better.

People keep bitchin'.....they'll think of something else to make our stay miserable.

Reference to Pink ID, yes, I use or dr. licence, quite often when asked, along with not having my departure card, as I believe the TM30 if even attempted to be sent to IMM by a hotel, won't be accepted without 'all' the info.

I avoid using my passport, complete info, if submitting any, as I always make reservations in wife's name, and don't offer my ID, unless asked. Most don't want to see it, as plausible deniability on their part. "he didn't check in, must be her guest" .... 555

[HHTel]

My gripe is the use of the word 'guests' which we are certainly not!

[HHTel]

An expat or expatriate is simply defined as a person who lives outside their native country. Similarly, an immigrant is a person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country. Only one distinction is made here – immigrants intend to stay in their new country indefinitely. Whether expats do or do not is unclear.

Expats we are. Visitors we are. Immigrants we are not. Neither are we guests.

[stretch]

If you are not a citizen you are a guest simple.

[buksida]

Lets keep the terminology argument for its own thread and this on the TM30.