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Re: Coronavirus (Covid-19) News

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:11 pm
by HHTel
HHTel wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:35 pm
PeteC wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:05 am ^ That is a huge positive development if accurate.
The above was in response to covid-19 dramatically weakening.

We're all hoping that this really does happen just like SARS did. However, there is one downside. Who was it that said "At some point, the virus is going to just disappear with the warm weather"?

If that happens, we'll never hear the last of it and the November election will be as good as won!!
WHO says coronavirus has not become less potent after Italian doctor claims
Ms Van Kerkhove told reporters: “In terms of transmissibility, that has not changed, in terms of severity, that has not changed.”

Martin Hibberd, a professor of emerging infectious disease at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, said major studies looking at genetic changes in the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which causes Covid-19, did not support the idea that it was weakening in any way.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavi ... li=BBoPWjQ

Re: Coronavirus (Covid-19) News

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:36 pm
by pharvey
A very worrying situation - record spikes and continuing an easing of Lock-down.......

Taken From: - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-52808113


"India is roaring - rather than inching - back to life amid a record spike in Covid-19 infections. The BBC's Aparna Alluri finds out why.

On Saturday, India's government announced plans to end a national lockdown that began on 25 March.

This was expected - the roads, and even the skies, have been busy for the last 10 days since restrictions started to ease for the first time in two months. Many businesses and workplaces are already open, construction has re-started, markets are crowded and parks are filling up. Soon, hotels, restaurants, malls, places of worship, schools and colleges will also reopen.

But the pandemic continues to rage. When India went into lockdown, it had reported 519 confirmed cases and 10 deaths. Now, its case tally has crossed 173,000, with 4,971 deaths. It added nearly 8,000 new cases on Saturday alone - the latest in a slew of record single-day spikes."

Re: Coronavirus (Covid-19) News

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:58 pm
by PeteC
Look at it this way. The elderly are affected the most. The elderly cost governments and companies money in terms of pensions, health care, and worker lost productive time caring for elderly family.

Please don't say people in power don't think that way.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid-19) News

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:24 pm
by HHTel
So you're saying that this could be used as a 'culling' operation. The population pyramid has tilted significantly around the world, some countries more than others. A fertility rate of 2.1 is required to maintain population. Taiwan has a fertility rate of around 1.2. In contrast African nations are in the region of 6. Even Thailand is down to 1.5!
So with the pyramid tilting, that leads to an increasing elder population that have to be supported by a decreasing younger population.

So the long and short of it is that us oldies are a bleed on society so we need to be culled 'for the greater good'!!!

Re: Coronavirus (Covid-19) News

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:12 pm
by pharvey
A grim milestone indeed..... :(

Taken From: - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... gures-show

"The UK reached a grim milestone in its battle with Coronavirus on Tuesday, as the death toll surpassed 50,000 for the first time, according to official figures.

The tally comes 10 weeks after the nation went into lock-down and confirms Britain’s status as one of the world’s worst-hit countries by a pandemic that has claimed about 375,000 lives globally.

The UK death toll is higher than the worst affected countries in Europe: Italy, France and Spain, according to researchers at Johns Hopkins University, and the number of people killed by Coronavirus in the UK since it emerged in China in January is only currently surpassed by America.

The number of deaths registered in England and Wales with confirmed or suspected Covid-19 reached 44,401 by 22 May according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS), but when more recent figures from statistics authorities in Scotland and Northern Ireland and the NHS are added in, the tally hits 50,032."

Re: Coronavirus (Covid-19) News

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:03 am
by Dannie Boy
pharvey wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:12 pm A grim milestone indeed..... :(

Taken From: - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... gures-show

"The UK reached a grim milestone in its battle with Coronavirus on Tuesday, as the death toll surpassed 50,000 for the first time, according to official figures.

The tally comes 10 weeks after the nation went into lock-down and confirms Britain’s status as one of the world’s worst-hit countries by a pandemic that has claimed about 375,000 lives globally.

The UK death toll is higher than the worst affected countries in Europe: Italy, France and Spain, according to researchers at Johns Hopkins University, and the number of people killed by Coronavirus in the UK since it emerged in China in January is only currently surpassed by America.

The number of deaths registered in England and Wales with confirmed or suspected Covid-19 reached 44,401 by 22 May according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS), but when more recent figures from statistics authorities in Scotland and Northern Ireland and the NHS are added in, the tally hits 50,032."
pharvey wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:12 pm A grim milestone indeed..... :(

Taken From: - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... gures-show

"The UK reached a grim milestone in its battle with Coronavirus on Tuesday, as the death toll surpassed 50,000 for the first time, according to official figures.

The tally comes 10 weeks after the nation went into lock-down and confirms Britain’s status as one of the world’s worst-hit countries by a pandemic that has claimed about 375,000 lives globally.

The UK death toll is higher than the worst affected countries in Europe: Italy, France and Spain, according to researchers at Johns Hopkins University, and the number of people killed by Coronavirus in the UK since it emerged in China in January is only currently surpassed by America.

The number of deaths registered in England and Wales with confirmed or suspected Covid-19 reached 44,401 by 22 May according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS), but when more recent figures from statistics authorities in Scotland and Northern Ireland and the NHS are added in, the tally hits 50,032."
I remember in the early days of Corona that Italy was recording deaths in the hundreds and the UK was in tens and I thought how come we are so more fortunate - obviously everybody was being lulled into a false sense of security (including the so-called scientific experts) and hence the delay in locking down, the results of which are now so clear to see!!

Re: Coronavirus (Covid-19) News

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:16 am
by Big Boy
I remember even earlier when the UK press was criticising Thailand, basically saying we were all DOOMED!!!

Re: Coronavirus (Covid-19) News

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:21 am
by Dannie Boy
Good to see that the UK public have their priorities right since lockdown has started to be lifted
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-scotla ... estaurants

Re: Coronavirus (Covid-19) News

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:53 am
by Big Boy
Yes, my relatives in Plymouth told me it was the same for KFC in Plymouth when it re-opened.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid-19) News

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:57 am
by sateeb
Big Boy wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:30 am I'm not sure if this is Fake News, but Richard Barrow doesn't normally deal in crap. Open so much yesterday, and close it again today :? It only affects Bangkok at the moment, but others normally follow.

If they are feeding us true information daily about lack of new infections, where is the justification?

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Looks like Barrow was spreading Fake News, no news about this anywhere. Not fit for purpose :duck:

Re: Coronavirus (Covid-19) News

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:42 pm
by Big Boy
Yes, I've come to that conclusion also, and was going to update the post within the hour. I've no need to do it now though.

It just shows what crap people are creating/feeding these days. Richard Barrow is usually a reliable source, and the image was marked as Bangkok Post (I don't think Richard is the problem). However, I don't know if Bangkok Post is becoming an unreliable source, or somebody is putting the Bangkok Post mark on their wind-ups - so easy in the digital age. This is the 3rd bit of BKP Fake News that I've fallen for in a week. Whatever, BKP sources need to be scrutinised carefully in future.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid-19) News

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:45 pm
by HHTel
One new case from quarantine. No deaths.

Net-zero!

Re: Coronavirus (Covid-19) News

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:07 pm
by sateeb
Big Boy wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:42 pm Yes, I've come to that conclusion also, and was going to update the post within the hour. I've no need to do it now though.

It just shows what crap people are creating/feeding these days. Richard Barrow is usually a reliable source, and the image was marked as Bangkok Post (I don't think Richard is the problem). However, I don't know if Bangkok Post is becoming an unreliable source, or somebody is putting the Bangkok Post mark on their wind-ups - so easy in the digital age. This is the 3rd bit of BKP Fake News that I've fallen for in a week. Whatever, BKP sources need to be scrutinised carefully in future.
I have no time at all for these YouTube bloggers/influencers whatever they call 'em. Wannabee fame seekers full of themselves and usually full of kerapp :laugh: :laugh:

Thankfully didn't cause a ripple on here but not sure how the others reacted. :naughty:

Re: Coronavirus (Covid-19) News

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:11 pm
by pharvey
Somewhat frightening.....

This is taken from: - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... hloroquine

"The World Health Organization and a number of national governments have changed their Covid-19 policies and treatments on the basis of flawed data from a little-known US healthcare analytics company, also calling into question the integrity of key studies published in some of the world’s most prestigious medical journals.

A Guardian investigation can reveal the US-based company Surgisphere, whose handful of employees appear to include a science fiction writer and an adult-content model, has provided data for multiple studies on Covid-19 co-authored by its chief executive, but has so far failed to adequately explain its data or methodology.

Data it claims to have legitimately obtained from more than a thousand hospitals worldwide formed the basis of scientific articles that have led to changes in Covid-19 treatment policies in Latin American countries. It was also behind a decision by the WHO and research institutes around the world to halt trials of the controversial drug hydroxychloroquine.

Two of the world’s leading medical journals – the Lancet and the New England Journal of Medicine – published studies based on Surgisphere data. The studies were co-authored by the firm’s chief executive, Sapan Desai.

Late on Tuesday, after being approached by the Guardian, the Lancet released an “expression of concern” about its published study. The New England Journal of Medicine has also issued a similar notice."

Re: Coronavirus (Covid-19) News

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:04 am
by caller
Gotta love China. Doesn't say much about the leadership of the WHO either:

Beijing frustrated World Health Organisation (WHO) officials as they struggled to get critical information at the start of the coronavirus outbreak, leaked internal recordings reveal.

The recordings, obtained by the Associated Press, highlight the United Nations agency’s difficulty in extracting information from China amid concerns that public criticism would make Beijing even more reluctant to open up.
The delayed information included the genome of the coronavirus, which China did not share for more than a week after they had fully decoded it.

The recordings contain officials complaining in meetings during the week beginning January 6 that Beijing was not sharing the data needed to assess the risk that the virus posed to the rest of the world.

China confirmed human-to-human transmission only on January 20 and the agency declared it a global health emergency a day later.

“We’re going on very minimal information,” Maria van Kerkhove, the WHO’s technical lead for coronavirus, told a meeting. “It’s clearly not enough for you to do proper planning.”

In another meeting Gauden Galea, the organisation’s top official in China, complains about receiving information only moments before it is relayed by the state broadcaster.

“We’re currently at the stage where they’re giving it to us 15 minutes before it appears on [the state broadcaster] CCTV,” he says.

The WHO has been criticised for its public praise of China’s handling of the pandemic, with its director-general, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, crediting the country with “setting a new standard for outbreak response”. That praise was instrumental in President Trump’s decision to halt funding to the agency before withdrawing altogether, condemning it as “China-centric”.

The organisation’s officials apparently feared that pressing China too hard could close lines of communication altogether, leaving them even less prepared to fight the virus. Its member states are required to share data about outbreaks but the system relies on trust and is unenforceable.

China flatly denied any delay in pandemic reporting yesterday, while the agency said that “our leadership and staff have worked night and day in compliance with the organisation’s rules and regulations to support and share information with all member states equally, and engage in frank and forthright conversations with governments at all levels.”

Another recording reveals that Michael Ryan, the WHO head of emergencies, voiced fears of a repeat of the Sars outbreak in 2002, which China also sought to conceal early in its development.

“This is exactly the same scenario, endlessly trying to get updates from China about what was going on,” he said. “The WHO barely got out of that one with its neck intact given the issues that arose around transparency in southern China.”

Mr Ryan criticised Beijing for not co-operating and pushed to apply more pressure. “This would not happen in Congo and did not happen in Congo and other places,” he said, apparently referring to the ebola outbreak. “We need to see the data. It’s absolutely important at this point.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news ... -tpwj37zm2