Is this the start of another Coup?

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I think after all the stirring that has gone on the reputation of the country from a political stance is up in smoke ... it was all just a flash in the pan and now the situation has boiled over after a lengthy simmer. I guess Samak is out of the frying pan and into the fire now though but I'm sure he'll be back again to cook up a storm when the whole mess goes back into the blender where too many cooks will spoil the broth and it'll become another recipe for disaster.

Food for thought eh?!

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Buksi sit down my old :sun: thats bordering on a sense of humour :clap: nurture it feed it water it well and grow it then you will start to understand Thai politics :duck: :run: :lach:
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I think the constitutional courts case was half-baked.
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Here is my view
Thailand has 460 MPs and 76 provinces I agree with Mr. Sondhi 460 is too many 3 MPs per province and some extra for the Bangkok metropolis and a max of 299 MPs sounds sensible to me
Each province should at alternate 2 years to Parliament vote for members of a second house
The UK has the House of Lords and the US the congress and the senate most countries have a second chamber to oversee parliament
The second house should have no trough with which to put snouts into but be able to oversee contracts in all areas and to refer them back to parliament if the second chamber does in any way on any issue smell corruption or be able to demand by law total transparency
A simplifying of the rules allowing people to register to vote where they work and live should be enacted very quickly it seems to me absentee voters outnumber the actual voters up north and that slews the political landscape badly
A central computer system to register voters by ID card in all voting areas is desperately needed to stop dual home owners voting in BKK and Cha Am Hua Hin etc which also slews the political landscape badly
The actual details would need to be dealt with by an all party commission and with total transparency to the media and the people at all times
And if the majority after all that is set up still vote for KNOWN crooks as they did with Mr. T so be it IT is the will of the people
(To clarify everybody knew Mr. Ts house lady and chauffer had US bank accounts with 40,000,000$ in before he stood the first time)
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Bad for business
Now that Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej is out of office, the business community would like him to stay there. "The nation will be divided even more and the impact will be even worse than a coup."

A return to office by disqualified prime minister Samak Sundaravej would only prolong the strife that has preoccupied the country for months, according to the Federation of Thai Industries. FTI chairman Santi Vilassakdanont said businesses and the public were clearly suffering from the confusion.

"We want to see the political deadlock end as soon as possible. We don't want Mr Samak to return, as then the impasse will not end," Mr Santi said.

"And no one is taking responsibility for the impact [of the confusion]. It's the business sector and the general public who feel most of the pinch."

The Constitutional Court voted 9-0 yesterday to disqualify Mr Samak for violating conflict-of-interest rules.

But within hours, his People Power Party said it would renominate Mr Samak as prime minister. A parliamentary vote is expected by Friday.

Protesters from the People's Alliance for Democracy, meanwhile, vowed to continue a vigil against the government.

Mr Santi said that ideally, the new prime minister would be someone who could forge a compromise between the factions that have split Thai society.

Tanit Sorat, an FTI vice-chairman, also expressed his preference for a new leader.

"We need someone that everyone will welcome and can be accepted by all sectors. Personally, I do not think Mr Samak should return as prime minister because it will only worsen the political deadlock," he said.

"Someone has to sacrifice his rights for the good of the country. If the impasse is prolonged, it is very worrying, as the nation will be divided even more and the impact will be even worse than a coup."

Vallop Vitanakorn, an FTI deputy secretary-general, called on PPP members to consider the best way out of the current situation.

"If Mr Samak returns, the impasse would not be solved. The business sector does not want politics to remain clouded," he said.

Dusit Nontanakorn, the vice-chairman of the Thai Chamber of Commerce, said the economic damage could reach 100 billion baht if problems were not solved by the end of the year.

"Eventually, the whole country could just collapse," he said."I don't care who becomes the next prime minister. But the political impasse has to end."

Strikes by PAD sympathisers have stranded tens of thousands of train commuters and paralysed Bangkok Port. Protests at airports in Phuket, Hat Yai and Krabi have inconvenienced thousands of travellers and raised fears of mass cancellations in the months before the year-end holidays.

Pornsil Patchrintanakul, a deputy secretary-general of the Thai Chamber of Commerce, said Thailand's problems were rooted in poor governance.

"The private sector has been urged for years to consider the importance of transparency and good governance. But politicians have never understood this," he said. "I have never seen any resignations by any politicians to show responsibility for political conflicts."

But Dhanin Chearavanont, the chairman of the Charoen Pokphand Group, said he was optimistic that the current troubles would be settled peacefully.

"I'm confident that the current political conflict will be over quite soon. We are Thai. And I believe that it will come to the point of compromise, somehow," he said.

Mr Dhanin, speaking at the launch of TrueVisions' TNN 24 news station, said he believed the economic impact of the political troubles would be minor.

Thailand has significant long-term growth potential, particularly from agriculture, and authorities should give priority to improving irrigation systems and developing biotechnology, he said.

But he added that deflation, not inflation, was the real danger.

"I am concerned that Thailand will experience deflation, rather than inflation. Price hikes will lead to lower consumer spending. The government should pursue the 'two-high' theory, where both salaries and product prices rise together," he said.

Source: http://www.bangkokpost.com/topstories/t ... ?id=130542

Thought: I agree with most of that. All the majority want is and end to all of the political problems. It would also be nice to have a government that looks after all Thai citizens and economic growth and not just pander to those in Issan. I fear its just a pipe dream though.
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Buksida, in the short term, what impact will this unrest have on the Falang visitor. In your opinion?
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raphoedon wrote:Buksida, in the short term, what impact will this unrest have on the Falang visitor. In your opinion?
You might have to drink Archa Beer instead of Chang. :shock:
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Added to the credit crunch the farang visitor (singular) is gonna be really lonely :shock: :shock: :roll: :roll:
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I know this is a little awry topic wise but i have been chortling away to myself for a few days now so i will let you in on it
In the USA we have the Fanny & Freddie scandal Banks/Gambling

In England in the 50s we had the Fanny & Johny (Craddock) scandal cooking
When bottling jam or something Fanny asked her husband to pass her the Rubber Johny
It hit every headline and was a huge scandal
I am just wondering if Samack was using the vegatable the Thais call fuck :shock: :shock: :D :D
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raphoedon wrote:Buksida, in the short term, what impact will this unrest have on the Falang visitor. In your opinion?
I don't think it'll have any impact on farang visitors, Thailand will always be hungry for tourist dollars.

Farang's permanently living and working here on the other hand have been struggling against increasing restrictions for years and I don't see that trend changing. There is an interesting take on it on www.huahinreport.com
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Samak has just accepted his party's nomination to be next PM.
Could be voted in as PM tomorrow.

Here we go again .............

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So whats he cooking up now then :D :D :D :mrgreen:
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whatever it is it probably won't be for the protestors in his front garden.

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Most voters want new election: surveyhttp://nationmultimedia.com/breakingnew ... d=30083196
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Please help me understand, His Majesty the King, the richest "royal" in the world, had a meeting a week ago with the then premier. He has been ousted a week later and he might get back in?//

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