Nereus wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:09 am
I would like to know if some of the poster's on this thread can have a look into their crystal ball and PM me the next lottery draw numbers?
FFS, until any approved changes are published by the Immigration it is STILL all speculation!
Written in Thai is not of much use to those it mostly affects.
The MFA Website will not open(surprise, surprise), but the Director General shows on the listing as: "On 16 January 2019, Mrs. Kanchana Patarachoke, Director-General........"
The Immigration Act, BE 2522 is administered by the appointed Government minister, and in the past any changes have to be published in the Government Gazette before they become law.
So, my question is: is Mr. "Big Joke" now the Government Minister, or is he, as reported in the press, just the head of the Immigration Police?
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The Immigration Act, BE 2522 is administered by the appointed Government minister, and in the past any changes have to be published in the Government Gazette before they become law.
This is a police order, not a law. It doesn't require to endorsement by HRH. Also, new laws don't HAVE to appear in the GG but they generally they are.
Immigration Commission shall have power and duty to make decision such as giving or revoking permission to stay.
So, my question is: is Mr. "Big Joke" now the Government Minister, or is he, as reported in the press, just the head of the Immigration Police?
He has been appointed as the Immigration Commissioner back in October and therefore sits on the immigration commission along with the Under Secretary of the Interior as chairman, the Under Secretary of the MFA and others.
oakdale160 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:40 am
You can be sure of one thing---any changes will NOT make things easier or less complicated for retirees.
Spot on.
The new rules already confirmed by a Police Order effective from 1/3-2019, means you have to keep 800k in your account 2 months (that is new) prior to your extension and 3 months AFTER your extension. In the remaining 7 months the account balance is not allowed to drop below 400k.
That will probably mean 4 bank letters per year...and you will have to prove your financial status with every 90 days report between extensions. And since the the new rules involves proof of your economic status, I doubt Bluport will be allowed to do the 90 days reports for people on retirement visa. So 4 visits to the bank and 4 visits to the new immigration office in the sticks each year just to keep your visa alive.
Makes the marriage visa option (where there clearly are no changes (?) ..) look much more attractive.
Officially the changes are done to get rid of the visa agents....who are you kidding...this is going to increase their business opportunities, 4 false bank deposits are now needed yearly in contrast to 1 before. All facilitated by corrupt immigration officers...strangely enough not mentioned in Big Joke's media show.
prove your financial status with every 90 days report between extensions.
And how would you do that if using online reporting.
The 800K has become effectively 'dead money'. 800K for 6 months of the year and not allowed to drop below 400K during the other 6 months. I thought that it was supposed to be used for living expenses and topped up again 3 months before your next extension!
oakdale160 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:40 am
You can be sure of one thing---any changes will NOT make things easier or less complicated for retirees.
Spot on.
The new rules already confirmed by a Police Order effective from 1/3-2019, means you have to keep 800k in your account 2 months (that is new) prior to your extension and 3 months AFTER your extension. In the remaining 7 months the account balance is not allowed to drop below 400k.
That will probably mean 4 bank letters per year...and you will have to prove your financial status with every 90 days report between extensions. And since the the new rules involves proof of your economic status, I doubt Bluport will be allowed to do the 90 days reports for people on retirement visa. So 4 visits to the bank and 4 visits to the new immigration office in the sticks each year just to keep your visa alive.
Makes the marriage visa option (where there clearly are no changes (?) ..) look much more attractive.
Officially the changes are done to get rid of the visa agents....who are you kidding...this is going to increase their business opportunities, 4 false bank deposits are now needed yearly in contrast to 1 before. All facilitated by corrupt immigration officers...strangely enough not mentioned in Big Joke's media show.
Why 4 visits to the bank each year? The new rules only effect the application to stay for 12 months. 90 day reporting remains unchanged.
malcolminthemiddle wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:41 pm
Why 4 visits to the bank each year? The new rules only effect the application to stay for 12 months. 90 day reporting remains unchanged.
I think peope are speculating on how they will check the new criteria is being met? If they do an annual check only, then someone could stay for a year without meeting any of the critera. I appreciate that has consequences, but....
It does seem they have taken a sledgehammer to crack a nut. The new checks seem to penalise the legitimate, not the illegitimate.
I've never had a bad experience at Thai Immigration, but with crap like this ambiguous heap of sh*te, is there any wonder anti-Thai sentiment often runs high?
malcolminthemiddle wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:41 pm
Why 4 visits to the bank each year? The new rules only effect the application to stay for 12 months. 90 day reporting remains unchanged.
I think peope are speculating on how they will check the new criteria is being met? If they do an annual check only, then someone could stay for a year without meeting any of the critera. I appreciate that has consequences, but....
It does seem they have taken a sledgehammer to crack a nut. The new checks seem to penalise the legitimate, not the illegitimate.
The criteria is retrospective. The bank pass book and/or bank letter will demonstrate whether the criteria has been met. The question is what happens if the criteria has not been met?
malcolminthemiddle wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:41 pm
Why 4 visits to the bank each year? The new rules only effect the application to stay for 12 months. 90 day reporting remains unchanged.
I think peope are speculating on how they will check the new criteria is being met? If they do an annual check only, then someone could stay for a year without meeting any of the critera. I appreciate that has consequences, but....
It does seem they have taken a sledgehammer to crack a nut. The new checks seem to penalise the legitimate, not the illegitimate.
The criteria is retrospective. The bank pass book and/or bank letter will demonstrate whether the criteria has been met. The question is what happens if the criteria has not been met?
The pass book doesn't prove anything (you can empty your account using ATM and the pass book will show show the original amount), that is why I am guessing, that we will need a new bank letter for each of our 90 days reports...(?) If the criteria is not met...your friendly immigration officer will give you 7 days to leave the country.
I think peope are speculating on how they will check the new criteria is being met? If they do an annual check only, then someone could stay for a year without meeting any of the critera. I appreciate that has consequences, but....
It does seem they have taken a sledgehammer to crack a nut. The new checks seem to penalise the legitimate, not the illegitimate.
The criteria is retrospective. The bank pass book and/or bank letter will demonstrate whether the criteria has been met. The question is what happens if the criteria has not been met?
The pass book doesn't prove anything (you can empty your account using ATM and the pass book will show show the original amount), that is why I am guessing, that we will need a new bank letter for each of our 90 days reports...(?) If the criteria is not met...your friendly immigration officer will give you 7 days to leave the country.
An updated bank pass book at the time of filing proves everything.
If the criteria are not met you will be on immediate overstay once the previous extension expires.
A new bank letter for each of the 90 days reports is unnecessary as you only have to prove the criteria has been met once, at the end of the 12 months period at the time of filing.
Because the criteria are spread over a 12 months period, the new rule only becomes effective 12 months from the date of the expiration of any existing extension after 1st March 2019. For example: for an existing extension expiring on 2nd March 2019 you would have to prove the criteria has been met at the next application for extension due on 2nd March 2020.
This new rule has not been well thought out and I suspect unlikely to become effective.
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malcolminthemiddle wrote:Because the criteria are spread over a 12 months period, the new rule only becomes effective 12 months from the date of the expiration of any existing extension after 1st March 2019. For example: for an existing extension expiring on 2nd March 2019 you would have to prove the criteria has been met at the next application for extension due on 2nd March 2020.
This makes more sense than most of the other BS posted on here!
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