Junta charges Thai rap group with computer crimes

[Felipesed1]

I am not at all a fan of rap, but can be the start of a revolution.

A revolution against who, by whom?

Stupid question ? A revolution by people, think at French revolution, Russian revolution, Nepal revolution, and and....
Against whom ? The dictators, an oppressive regime.......
You recently read that the new army chief said that another coup is possible.......Against whom ? Maybe against the actual Junta.
Do not forget that in world history a junta has been very often overthrown by another coup. Thai army is not united. Think at militars green outside and red inside. WATERMELONS.

Please inform us in what way you feel you have been "oppressed" since the coup? How has your life here as an "long-stay tourist" changed?

If you think you are being oppressed, why are you still here, as presumably you have another country you could go back to in the European Empire, and be ruled by a self-selecting clique of bureaucrats and failed politicians.

Do you think that violent, bloody revolutions are a "good thing", a la the French & Russian revolutions that you previously cited?

OK, the police sometimes close the bars earlier than before, and immigration rules have been tightened up a bit, but otherwise there is no change for law-abiding expats.

Apart from that, rap is crap, and not music at all. Other Thai bands have expressed similar sentiments, but in a much more musically competent way.

[nil]

It’s a good powerful track and much better than the usual Thai music I hear. But the last thing I want to see is another revolution which this has the possibility to create, especially if the government try and arrest the group. As for freedoms, yes you can’t criticise the rulers and corruption is endemic (as it was under democracy) but the Thais have far more freedom in their daily life than other country’s. That’s why I like living here.

[caller]

Please inform us in what way you feel you have been "oppressed" since the coup?

I rather suspect he was referring to Thais being oppressed.

[europtimiste]

Please inform us in what way you feel you have been "oppressed" since the coup?

I rather suspect he was referring to Thais being oppressed.

Correct.

[europtimiste]

A revolution against who, by whom?

Stupid question ? A revolution by people, think at French revolution, Russian revolution, Nepal revolution, and and....
Against whom ? The dictators, an oppressive regime.......
You recently read that the new army chief said that another coup is possible.......Against whom ? Maybe against the actual Junta.
Do not forget that in world history a junta has been very often overthrown by another coup. Thai army is not united. Think at militars green outside and red inside. WATERMELONS.

Please inform us in what way you feel you have been "oppressed" since the coup? How has your life here as an "long-stay tourist" changed?

If you think you are being oppressed, why are you still here, as presumably you have another country you could go back to in the European Empire, and be ruled by a self-selecting clique of bureaucrats and failed politicians.

Do you think that violent, bloody revolutions are a "good thing", a la the French & Russian revolutions that you previously cited?

OK, the police sometimes close the bars earlier than before, and immigration rules have been tightened up a bit, but otherwise there is no change for law-abiding expats.

Apart from that, rap is crap, and not music at all. Other Thai bands have expressed similar sentiments, but in a much more musically competent way.

FYI :Somebody who has a year visa is not a long stay tourist.
Before we had to be careful with the lese majeste law. Now we have the computer act, must be careful with comments and even with the "like" sign. Don't you consider this oppression ?
What about all Thais who lost their jobs due to their stupid reorganisation of food stalls ?
About revolution, there must be collateral damages, but we are not anymore in 1789 or 1917.
Yes rap is crap, but in this case I love the strong words, forget the lyric.

[laphanphon]

FYI :Somebody who has a year visa is not a long stay tourist......

......Unless you are a resident, and can't be deported, then you are simply a 'guest', whether called tourist, immigrant, non immigrant.....you're still a guest, whether 30 days or for 365

Before we had to be careful with the lese majeste law. Now we have the computer act, must be careful with comments and even with the "like" sign. Don't you consider this oppression ?......

.......Staying here is voluntary, so obviously you accept their laws.
You don't get a voice or a vote......"adapt or pack"

What about all Thais who lost their jobs due to their stupid reorganisation of food stalls ?.....

.......Thais simply enforcing all laws / ordinances already on the books, because the locals want them enforced. Walking down sukhomvit is a joy now, wished they'd enforce it on Silom rd

About revolution, there must be collateral damages, but we are not anymore in 1789 or 1917.
Yes rap is crap, but in this case I love the strong words, forget the lyric.......

........The lyrics are excellent, and sadly apply worldwide to most countries. Take out reference to 'army, watch, panther', and you wouldn't know which country it refers to. Not a fan of rap either, just mute it, and read

[Felipesed1]

FYI A Non-O visa, which is what I presume you have, is basically a long term tourist visa.
The key is in the letters " Non O" - Non Immigrant.
PR & Citizenship are the only types of visa giving any concept of permanent right of residence.

I do not consider restrictions on childish and ill-informed comments on social media, and their likes, a form of serious oppression. If you do then the UK and most European countries are also "oppressed".

The proliferation of food stalls over the pavements and roads needed cleaning up. It made the pavements impossible to negotiate for pedestrians, particularly if they were a bit disabled. They stalls flowed out into the roads, and made them very difficult for traffic. "bricks & mortar" shops have to pay taxes to operate, the stalls, and the saleng, do not; and the latter are an especial nuisance.

What is your suggested limit on "collateral damage"? 1000, dead, 10,000, 100,000?

[buksida]

ANTI-JUNTA BATTLE ON SOCIAL MEDIA FAR FROM OVER
The battle between pro- and anti-junta elements has increasingly shifted onto the internet and social media in particular.

Two weeks ago, junta leader Gen. Prayuth Chan-ocha opened his Facebook and Twitter accounts to directly reach out to netizens.

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The song, a collaboration by 10 rappers – four of whom chose to cover their faces – was the latest online attack against the junta, which has been in power since the May 2014 military coup.

It took three days for the military regime to react, with deputy police chief Pol. Gen. Srivara Ransibrahmanakul saying Friday that there’s a “50 percent chance” the song is a criminal offense violating an unspecified junta order.

As of press time, his men had suggested the 5-minute rap – which mocks the hypocrisy of junta’s rule – could violate the Computer Crimes Act for containing false information. Such violation carries five years in prison and/or a fine of up to 100,000 baht. Those who shared the music video have also been warned about being prosecuted.

If you think the junta is so fickle and repressive, please consider the fact that on Wednesday – a day after the rap was released and two days before police said they would summon the rappers – Foreign Minister Don Pramudwinai returned from an official trip to Europe boasting to reporters that other countries were amazed this administration is “a coup government but gives [citizens] full freedom.”


http://www.khaosodenglish.com/opinion/2 ... from-over/

[HHTel]

I wish people would stop using the words 'Guest in this country'. We are not guests by any stretch of the imagination.

[laphanphon]

What would you like to be called ?

OK ........ non residents or 'Non-Immigrant Visa Type “O” visitor'

The Thais are the host........the rest are 'guests'.....so simple.

[buksida]

I wish people would stop using the words 'Guest in this country'. We are not guests by any stretch of the imagination.

Tend to agree ... but maybe material for another thread.

[Big Boy]

If you guys need to discuss a name for foreign residents of Thailand, start a new thread. Such discussion on this thread has been deleted - buksida asked nicely.

[europtimiste]

What is your suggested limit on "collateral damage"? 1000, dead, 10,000, 100,000?

Freedom and independence request martyrs.
Actually (without being sure of numbers) Venezuela has more than 130, Nicaragua more than 170.
There is no limit. Depends how fast people can get rid of their oppressors.

[Felipesed1]

Are you volunteering?

[europtimiste]

Are you volunteering?

Stupid and inappropriate question from somebody who have nothing else to say.
I am not Thai, but I support those who fight against oppression.