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[Big Boy]

Please expand. What magical actions did they take?

[Nereus]

by J.J.B. » Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:57 pm
Immunology is one of the most mind-bendingly complex of all the fields of medical studies. I still have one of my textbooks from Uni when it was part of my degree course over 25 years ago and I’m fairly sure that most of what’s in it has now been superseded with what we’ve learned from even the past five years, let alone 25.

Some of you expert speculators should take the time to read this.
Thank you, J.J.B.

[europtimiste]

Please expand. What magical actions did they take?

No magic, they used their brain. They sent own facts finding team to Mainland China and bar entry to Chinese nationals.
The result is there.

[Big Boy]

So no different to many other countries then.

[HHTel]

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/04/09/ta ... the-world/

Taiwan's coronavirus response is among the best globally

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/04/asia ... index.html

[HHTel]

Both Italy and Spain with thousands of cases and deaths, see a leveling off and even a downturn in the number of cases reported daily. On the back of that they are aiming to relax restrictions by the end of the month.
In contrast, Thailand still has relatively low infection rates.
Hua Hin for example have 32 in quarantine (probably returnees), 4 active cases, all in hospital and have been there for a while, and one death, and that I believe was from someone getting off a train from BKK.

And here we are in a booze free lockdown, leave your house without a mask at your peril!

If these figures are to be believed, am I the only one that thinks of 'knee jerk' and 'sledghammer'.

Bear in mind, that until cases started appearing around March 18, Thailand had no restrictions and all borders were open. Only after announcing restrictions did the numbers gradually increase, jumping to a high of 188 on March 22nd. Since then numbers have been reducing, apart from a couple of explainable spikes.
Social distancing is a joke with hardly anyone here taking it seriously and most just walk by sanitisers in shop entrances.

I just wonder what the situation would be had they just closed the borders and instigated moderate local restrictions.

[Big Boy]

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/04/09/ta ... the-world/

Taiwan's coronavirus response is among the best globally

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/04/asia ... index.html

Thank you HHTel that makes more sense.

[sateeb]

by J.J.B. » Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:57 pm
Immunology is one of the most mind-bendingly complex of all the fields of medical studies. I still have one of my textbooks from Uni when it was part of my degree course over 25 years ago and I’m fairly sure that most of what’s in it has now been superseded with what we’ve learned from even the past five years, let alone 25.

Some of you expert speculators should take the time to read this.
Thank you, J.J.B.

Since when has opinion been redefined as expert speculation?

[caller]

Thank you HHTel that makes more sense.

Pity it didn't make more sense to the WHO who do their best to pretend that Taiwan doesn't exist, preferring to link it to China for financial gain, in this case, to the cost of everyone.

https://www.thenation.com/article/world ... rus-china/

Various articles of a similar nature out there, including a report on the beeb.

[Spitfire]

There is nothing wrong with people speculating/sharing info on a topic if it is civil, reasonably informed and not wild nonsense as that adds info for debate and contributes to conversation ... which is what forums are for.

[HHTel]

I was speaking with some people in the UK this evening. They all seem totally bemused at the restrictions imposed here in Thailand. They said that it's quite a talking point among people who have been/lived here. It's noted that every time the infection rate reduces, the authorities double down and bring in more restrictions. "What the hell is going on there?" I'm asked.

45 more cases today. Another reduction.
God help us if it gets down to zero - we'll probably all get locked up for breathing!

Of course, that's on the assumption that the figures are correct.

[oakdale160]

Control, control,its not about corona its about control.

[HHTel]

Spain has extended the 'lock down' but they're opening some shops next week as the first of the 'opening up' initiative.
Italy is to follow soon.

Now let's look at Thailand:
The first case outside of China was reported here on January 14th.
Numbers remained tiny until the first death on March 1st. A patient that had been in hospital since the 16th and was being treated for Dengue fever.

The first significant rise in cases was March 15th with 32 cases. That figure stayed in the 30's for the next 4 days (March 18th) when the government closed the bars from the following day.
The first day of the restriction (March 19th) there was an increase of 60.
It peaked on March 22nd (3 days later) to 188 after recording 50 the day before.
It stayed in the bottom half of 100 until April 5th when 102 were recorded.

Since then it's been pretty much on a downward trend. Look at the following: I've adjusted April the 8th to 60 as half of the 111 were Thai workers returning from Korea.

April 6th - 51 cases (a reduction of 50% over the previous day)
April 7th - 38 cases (a reduction of 74.5%)
April 8th - 60 cases (an increase of 36%)
April 9th - 54 cases (a reduction of 10%)
April 10th - 50 cases (a reduction of 7.5%)
April 11th - 45 cases (a reduction of 10%)

In Hua Hin, there are only 4 active cases (all in hospital) and one death from Bangkok. Technically, according to the figures, there is zero covid-19 in Hua Hin.

Nationally there have been 35 deaths and around 1,300 active cases spread around 16 provinces. Despite the evidence, with each positive trend, the authorities double down and expand the 'lock down'.

Considering that nothing was done for the first 2 months after identifying the first case (business as usual, tourist promotions, borders open) Thailand recorded almost nothing. Since then, numbers have remained low despite hand cleaning and social distancing mostly being ignored. (If you have a mask then you are protected).

With a danger of sounding like Trump (god forbid) Thailand have grossly over-reacted to the situation and in doing have destroyed peoples incomes, some who will struggle to recover.

As someone said (said in the UK as well), Thailand have been very lucky or they're blatantly lying!

Someone show me how wrong I am, because I don't get it.
It seems to me that the virus has never been a problem in Thailand.

[buksida]

Thailand have grossly over-reacted to the situation and in doing have destroyed peoples incomes, some who will struggle to recover.

As someone said (said in the UK as well), Thailand have been very lucky or they're blatantly lying!

Absolutely, it seems to be that the people are in agreement ...

Majority not confident in govt's handling of Covid-19: Poll
A majority of people worry about the Covid-19 outbreak and are not confident in the government's handling of the situation, according to an opinion survey carried out by Suan Dusit Rajabhat Univerisity, or Suan Dusit Poll.

The poll was conducted online on April 7-10 on 2,970 people throughout the country.

A huge majority - 89.30% - said they worried about the situation, while 10.70% said otherwise.

Regarding their confidence in government's ability to stem the spread of Covid-19, 58.75% were not confident - 36.09% not quite confident and 22.66% not confident at all. On the other side, 33.07% said they were quite confident and 8.18% very confident.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... id-19-poll

What we must remember is that this is still a military backed dictatorship no matter what they want to label it. Every year they try to ban booze and stop people celebrating songkran, as said above - it is all about control. Empowering their lazy, corrupt and inept police farce to deprive the people of even more money when they need it most is also part of their plan to nurture a system of fear. Wait till the bean counters start hiking taxes again later this year to recover all the money they're giving out to socialites on facebook, the generals still want their kickbacks from Chinese sub deals.

[STEVE G]

I was reading recently that deaths from suicide due to.the unemployment caused by the economic downturn brought about from all these shutdowns could easily eclipse the numbers of deaths from covid 19.