2017 F1 News and Prediction Tournament
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The Poison Dwarf and his legacy ..... Money, Money, Money (didn't ABBA do a song)? Actually, Silverstone was always a bitch to get to, but was always a great day out (well, weekend for me) - and one of only two Grand Prix I've been to.
"Brand F1" extract the urine on $ money, and it will hurt to see this circuit go - can fully understand the reasoning though (from Silverstone's side).
British Grand Prix Future Uncertain Beyond 2019 as Silverstone Activates Break Clause
The future of the British Grand Prix has been left uncertain after Silverstone's owner confirmed it has activated a break clause to cease hosting the race after 2019.
Silverstone has been home to the race every year since 1987.
However, the British Racing Drivers' Club (BRDC), which owns the circuit, says it cannot afford to host the race unless a new deal is agreed.
"We have reached the tipping point," said BRDC chairman John Grant.
"We can no longer let our passion for the sport rule our heads. We sustained losses of £2.8m in 2015 and £4.8m in 2016, and we expect to lose a similar amount this year.
"Our hope is that an agreement can still be reached, so that we can ensure a sustainable and financially viable future for the British Grand Prix at Silverstone for many years to come."
Silverstone hosted the first Formula 1 race in 1950. It then shared hosting the British Grand Prix with Brands Hatch and Aintree before becoming its permanent home 30 years ago.
Unlike many other tracks on the F1 calendar, Silverstone receives no government backing. - why?
Full Story: - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/40566434
"Brand F1" extract the urine on $ money, and it will hurt to see this circuit go - can fully understand the reasoning though (from Silverstone's side).
British Grand Prix Future Uncertain Beyond 2019 as Silverstone Activates Break Clause
The future of the British Grand Prix has been left uncertain after Silverstone's owner confirmed it has activated a break clause to cease hosting the race after 2019.
Silverstone has been home to the race every year since 1987.
However, the British Racing Drivers' Club (BRDC), which owns the circuit, says it cannot afford to host the race unless a new deal is agreed.
"We have reached the tipping point," said BRDC chairman John Grant.
"We can no longer let our passion for the sport rule our heads. We sustained losses of £2.8m in 2015 and £4.8m in 2016, and we expect to lose a similar amount this year.
"Our hope is that an agreement can still be reached, so that we can ensure a sustainable and financially viable future for the British Grand Prix at Silverstone for many years to come."
Silverstone hosted the first Formula 1 race in 1950. It then shared hosting the British Grand Prix with Brands Hatch and Aintree before becoming its permanent home 30 years ago.
Unlike many other tracks on the F1 calendar, Silverstone receives no government backing. - why?
Full Story: - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/40566434
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Re: 2017 F1 News and Prediction Tournament
British Grand Prix qualifying:
1. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes - Mercedes 1m 26.600s
2. Kimi Raikkonen FIN Ferrari - Ferrari 1m 27.147s
3. Sebastian Vettel GER Ferrari - Ferrari 1m 27.356s
4. Valtteri Bottas FIN Mercedes - Mercedes 1m 27.376s * (5 places)
5. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull - TAG 1m 28.130s
6. Nico Hulkenberg GER Renault - Renault 1m 28.856s
7. Sergio Perez MEX Force India-Mercedes 1m 28.902s
8. Esteban Ocon FRA Force India-Mercedes 1m 29.074s
9. Stoffel Vandoorne BEL McLaren-Honda 1m 29.418s
10. Romain Grosjean FRA Haas-Ferrari 1m 29.549s
11. Jolyon Palmer GBR Renault - Renault 1m 30.193s
12. Daniil Kvyat RUS Toro Rosso-Renault 1m 30.355s
13. Fernando Alonso ESP McLaren-Honda 1m 30.600s * (30 Places)
14. Carlos Sainz ESP Toro Rosso-Renault 1m 31.368s
15. Felipe Massa BRA Williams - Mercedes 1m 31.482s
16. Lance Stroll CAN Williams - Mercedes 1m 42.573s
17. Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas-Ferrari 1m 42.577s
18. Pascal Wehrlein GER Sauber - Ferrari 1m 42.593s
19. Marcus Ericsson SWE Sauber - Ferrari 1m 42.633s
20. Daniel Ricciardo AUS Red Bull - TAG 1m 42.966s * (5 Places)
* denotes grid penalties to be applied
Read more at http://www.crash.net/f1/results/271160/ ... 35huacL.99
1. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes - Mercedes 1m 26.600s
2. Kimi Raikkonen FIN Ferrari - Ferrari 1m 27.147s
3. Sebastian Vettel GER Ferrari - Ferrari 1m 27.356s
4. Valtteri Bottas FIN Mercedes - Mercedes 1m 27.376s * (5 places)
5. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull - TAG 1m 28.130s
6. Nico Hulkenberg GER Renault - Renault 1m 28.856s
7. Sergio Perez MEX Force India-Mercedes 1m 28.902s
8. Esteban Ocon FRA Force India-Mercedes 1m 29.074s
9. Stoffel Vandoorne BEL McLaren-Honda 1m 29.418s
10. Romain Grosjean FRA Haas-Ferrari 1m 29.549s
11. Jolyon Palmer GBR Renault - Renault 1m 30.193s
12. Daniil Kvyat RUS Toro Rosso-Renault 1m 30.355s
13. Fernando Alonso ESP McLaren-Honda 1m 30.600s * (30 Places)
14. Carlos Sainz ESP Toro Rosso-Renault 1m 31.368s
15. Felipe Massa BRA Williams - Mercedes 1m 31.482s
16. Lance Stroll CAN Williams - Mercedes 1m 42.573s
17. Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas-Ferrari 1m 42.577s
18. Pascal Wehrlein GER Sauber - Ferrari 1m 42.593s
19. Marcus Ericsson SWE Sauber - Ferrari 1m 42.633s
20. Daniel Ricciardo AUS Red Bull - TAG 1m 42.966s * (5 Places)
* denotes grid penalties to be applied
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British results:
1. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes - Mercedes 51 laps (Fastest Lap)
2. Valtteri Bottas FIN Mercedes - Mercedes +14.0
3. Kimi Raikkonen FIN Ferrari - Ferrari +36.5
4. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull - TAG +52.1
5. Daniel Ricciardo AUS Red Bull - TAG +1m 05.9
6. Nico Hulkenberg GER Renault - Renault +1m 08.1s
7. Sebastian Vettel GER Ferrari - Ferrari +1m 33.9s
8. Esteban Ocon FRA Force India-Mercedes +1 lap
9. Sergio Perez MEX Force India-Mercedes +1 lap
10. Felipe Massa BRA Williams - Mercedes +1 lap
11. Stoffel Vandoorne BEL McLaren-Honda +1 lap
12. Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas-Ferrari +1 lap
13. Romain Grosjean FRA Haas-Ferrari +1 lap
14. Marcus Ericsson SWE Sauber - Ferrari +1 lap
15. Daniil Kvyat RUS Toro Rosso-Renault +1 lap
16. Lance Stroll CAN Williams - Mercedes +1 lap
17. Pascal Wehrlein GER Sauber - Ferrari +1 lap
Did not finished
18. Fernando Alonso ESP McLaren-Honda 32 laps completed
19. Carlos Sainz ESP Toro Rosso-Renault 1 lap completed
20. Jolyon Palmer GBR Renault - Renault 0 laps completed
Read more at http://www.crash.net/f1/results/272179/ ... Vi8dVI4.99
1. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes - Mercedes 51 laps (Fastest Lap)
2. Valtteri Bottas FIN Mercedes - Mercedes +14.0
3. Kimi Raikkonen FIN Ferrari - Ferrari +36.5
4. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull - TAG +52.1
5. Daniel Ricciardo AUS Red Bull - TAG +1m 05.9
6. Nico Hulkenberg GER Renault - Renault +1m 08.1s
7. Sebastian Vettel GER Ferrari - Ferrari +1m 33.9s
8. Esteban Ocon FRA Force India-Mercedes +1 lap
9. Sergio Perez MEX Force India-Mercedes +1 lap
10. Felipe Massa BRA Williams - Mercedes +1 lap
11. Stoffel Vandoorne BEL McLaren-Honda +1 lap
12. Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas-Ferrari +1 lap
13. Romain Grosjean FRA Haas-Ferrari +1 lap
14. Marcus Ericsson SWE Sauber - Ferrari +1 lap
15. Daniil Kvyat RUS Toro Rosso-Renault +1 lap
16. Lance Stroll CAN Williams - Mercedes +1 lap
17. Pascal Wehrlein GER Sauber - Ferrari +1 lap
Did not finished
18. Fernando Alonso ESP McLaren-Honda 32 laps completed
19. Carlos Sainz ESP Toro Rosso-Renault 1 lap completed
20. Jolyon Palmer GBR Renault - Renault 0 laps completed
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Re: 2017 F1 News and Prediction Tournament
Hamilton wins another and comes within one point of Vettel for the Championship lead. Some crazy tire problems on the last lap without which a few finishing positions could have been different.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/40624508
Pharvey had the best race in our pool with 15.5 points, and now at the halfway point in the season the top three are Pitsch, Pete and RZR.
Next up in two weeks is Hungary. Good luck to all! Pete
Hungarian Grand Prix
Hungaroring, Budapest
Qualifying
Sat 29 Jul 19:00 (Thai Time)
Race
Sun 30 Jul 19:00 (Thai Time)
http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/40624508
Pharvey had the best race in our pool with 15.5 points, and now at the halfway point in the season the top three are Pitsch, Pete and RZR.
Next up in two weeks is Hungary. Good luck to all! Pete
Hungarian Grand Prix
Hungaroring, Budapest
Qualifying
Sat 29 Jul 19:00 (Thai Time)
Race
Sun 30 Jul 19:00 (Thai Time)
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Re: 2017 F1 News and Prediction Tournament
Now THAT was a car race! Apart from one small bungle, the rest of it was first class racing. It has a lot to do with the circuit, and it would be criminal to exclude Silverstone.
What is it with Kimi Raikkonen? Is he just one cool customer or a bloody robot? He was sitting in the drivers room after the race and appeared to be half asleep!
What is it with Kimi Raikkonen? Is he just one cool customer or a bloody robot? He was sitting in the drivers room after the race and appeared to be half asleep!
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Di Resta to stand in for unwell Massa in Hungary
Paul di Resta will take part in his first Formula One Grand Prix for four years after being drafted in at Williams to replace an unwell Felipe Massa.
The Brazilian had reported feeling dizzy after FP2 on Friday, and was taken to the medical centre and then local hospital for precautionary checks. He was then examined by the FIA medical delegate on Saturday morning, who passed him fit to compete in FP3.
During the session however Massa's symptoms returned, prompting the Brazilian to call an early halt to his running.
Di Resta to stand in for unwell Massa in Hungary
Paul di Resta will take part in his first Formula One Grand Prix for four years after being drafted in at Williams to replace an unwell Felipe Massa.
The Brazilian had reported feeling dizzy after FP2 on Friday, and was taken to the medical centre and then local hospital for precautionary checks. He was then examined by the FIA medical delegate on Saturday morning, who passed him fit to compete in FP3.
During the session however Massa's symptoms returned, prompting the Brazilian to call an early halt to his running.
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Hungarian qualifying results:
1. Sebastian Vettel GER Ferrari - Ferrari 1m 16.276s
2. Kimi Raikkonen FIN Ferrari - Ferrari 1m 16.444s
3. Valtteri Bottas FIN Mercedes - Mercedes 1m 16.530s
4. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes - Mercedes 1m 16.707s
5. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull - TAG 1m 16.797s
6. Daniel Ricciardo AUS Red Bull - TAG 1m 16.818s
7. Nico Hulkenberg GER Renault - Renault 1m 17.468s *
8. Fernando Alonso ESP McLaren-Honda 1m 17.549s
9. Stoffel Vandoorne BEL McLaren-Honda 1m 17.894s
10. Carlos Sainz ESP Toro Rosso-Renault 1m 18.912s
11. Jolyon Palmer GBR Renault - Renault 1m 18.415s
12. Esteban Ocon FRA Force India-Mercedes 1m 18.495s
13. Daniil Kvyat RUS Toro Rosso-Renault 1m 18.538s
14. Sergio Perez MEX Force India-Mercedes 1m 18.639s
15. Romain Grosjean FRA Haas-Ferrari 1m 18.771s
16. Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas-Ferrari 1m 19.095s
17. Lance Stroll CAN Williams - Mercedes 1m 19.102s
18. Pascal Wehrlein GER Sauber - Ferrari 1m 19.839s
19. Paul di Resta GBR Williams - Mercedes 1m 19.868s
20. Marcus Ericsson SWE Sauber - Ferrari 1m 19.972s
* to take a 5 place grid penalty
Read more at http://www.crash.net/f1/results/286390/ ... hGbQIOu.99
1. Sebastian Vettel GER Ferrari - Ferrari 1m 16.276s
2. Kimi Raikkonen FIN Ferrari - Ferrari 1m 16.444s
3. Valtteri Bottas FIN Mercedes - Mercedes 1m 16.530s
4. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes - Mercedes 1m 16.707s
5. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull - TAG 1m 16.797s
6. Daniel Ricciardo AUS Red Bull - TAG 1m 16.818s
7. Nico Hulkenberg GER Renault - Renault 1m 17.468s *
8. Fernando Alonso ESP McLaren-Honda 1m 17.549s
9. Stoffel Vandoorne BEL McLaren-Honda 1m 17.894s
10. Carlos Sainz ESP Toro Rosso-Renault 1m 18.912s
11. Jolyon Palmer GBR Renault - Renault 1m 18.415s
12. Esteban Ocon FRA Force India-Mercedes 1m 18.495s
13. Daniil Kvyat RUS Toro Rosso-Renault 1m 18.538s
14. Sergio Perez MEX Force India-Mercedes 1m 18.639s
15. Romain Grosjean FRA Haas-Ferrari 1m 18.771s
16. Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas-Ferrari 1m 19.095s
17. Lance Stroll CAN Williams - Mercedes 1m 19.102s
18. Pascal Wehrlein GER Sauber - Ferrari 1m 19.839s
19. Paul di Resta GBR Williams - Mercedes 1m 19.868s
20. Marcus Ericsson SWE Sauber - Ferrari 1m 19.972s
* to take a 5 place grid penalty
Read more at http://www.crash.net/f1/results/286390/ ... hGbQIOu.99
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I was expecting the Red Bulls to do better, but they have good race pace on this track
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Certainly seems that the handling of the Ferraris has the advantage over the raw power of the Mercs on this track. Might have paid me to do some research before I made my (early for once) picks!!
Anywho, looking forward to sitting down with a cold beer and watching the race... LHG at work, couldn't be better!!
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Actually I only just noticed both McLarens in the top 10! If either of their cars even finish a race it's a good day for that team.
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Hungarian results:
1. Sebastian Vettel GER Ferrari - Ferrari 70 laps
2. Kimi Raikkonen FIN Ferrari - Ferrari +0.9s
3. Valtteri Bottas FIN Mercedes - Mercedes +12.4s
4. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes - Mercedes +12.8s
5. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull - TAG +13.2s
6. Fernando Alonso ESP McLaren-Honda +1m 11.2s (Fastest Lap)
7. Carlos Sainz ESP Toro Rosso-Renault +1 lap
8. Sergio Perez MEX Force India-Mercedes +1 lap
9. Esteban Ocon FRA Force India-Mercedes +1 lap
10. Stoffel Vandoorne BEL McLaren-Honda +1 lap
11. Daniil Kvyat RUS Toro Rosso-Renault +1 lap
12. Jolyon Palmer GBR Renault - Renault +1 lap
13. Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas-Ferrari +1 lap
14. Lance Stroll CAN Williams - Mercedes +1 lap
15. Pascal Wehrlein GER Sauber - Ferrari +2 laps
16. Marcus Ericsson SWE Sauber - Ferrari +2 laps
Did not finished
17. Nico Hulkenberg GER Renault - Renault 68 laps
18. Paul di Resta GBR Williams - Mercedes 61 laps completed
19. Romain Grosjean FRA Haas-Ferrari 19 laps completed
20. Daniel Ricciardo AUS Red Bull - TAG 0 laps completed
Read more at http://www.crash.net/f1/results/286429/ ... Q9GXorW.99
1. Sebastian Vettel GER Ferrari - Ferrari 70 laps
2. Kimi Raikkonen FIN Ferrari - Ferrari +0.9s
3. Valtteri Bottas FIN Mercedes - Mercedes +12.4s
4. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes - Mercedes +12.8s
5. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull - TAG +13.2s
6. Fernando Alonso ESP McLaren-Honda +1m 11.2s (Fastest Lap)
7. Carlos Sainz ESP Toro Rosso-Renault +1 lap
8. Sergio Perez MEX Force India-Mercedes +1 lap
9. Esteban Ocon FRA Force India-Mercedes +1 lap
10. Stoffel Vandoorne BEL McLaren-Honda +1 lap
11. Daniil Kvyat RUS Toro Rosso-Renault +1 lap
12. Jolyon Palmer GBR Renault - Renault +1 lap
13. Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas-Ferrari +1 lap
14. Lance Stroll CAN Williams - Mercedes +1 lap
15. Pascal Wehrlein GER Sauber - Ferrari +2 laps
16. Marcus Ericsson SWE Sauber - Ferrari +2 laps
Did not finished
17. Nico Hulkenberg GER Renault - Renault 68 laps
18. Paul di Resta GBR Williams - Mercedes 61 laps completed
19. Romain Grosjean FRA Haas-Ferrari 19 laps completed
20. Daniel Ricciardo AUS Red Bull - TAG 0 laps completed
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Vettel wins and widens the gap to 14 points for the Championship.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/40768991
"Sebastian Vettel hung on to win a tense Hungarian Grand Prix despite problems with his Ferrari and a valiant attack by title rival Lewis Hamilton.
In a nail-biting finish, Vettel had his team-mate Kimi Raikkonen behind complaining that he could go faster but being used by the team as a buffer against Hamilton.
The Mercedes driver closed in but was unable to overcome the problems created by losing grip in the wake of another car.
And he let team-mate Valtteri Bottas past into third place, honouring a promise he made earlier in the race when the Finn moved aside to let Hamilton attack the Ferraris."
In our pool Pete had the best race with 13.5 points. The top three are now Pitsch, Pete and JJBones.
Were into the one month break now with Belgium on August 27. Good luck to all! Pete
Belgian Grand Prix
Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps, Spa-Francorchamps
Qualifying
Sat 26 Aug 19:00 (Thai time)
Race
Sun 27 Aug 19:00 (Thai time)
http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/40768991
"Sebastian Vettel hung on to win a tense Hungarian Grand Prix despite problems with his Ferrari and a valiant attack by title rival Lewis Hamilton.
In a nail-biting finish, Vettel had his team-mate Kimi Raikkonen behind complaining that he could go faster but being used by the team as a buffer against Hamilton.
The Mercedes driver closed in but was unable to overcome the problems created by losing grip in the wake of another car.
And he let team-mate Valtteri Bottas past into third place, honouring a promise he made earlier in the race when the Finn moved aside to let Hamilton attack the Ferraris."
In our pool Pete had the best race with 13.5 points. The top three are now Pitsch, Pete and JJBones.
Were into the one month break now with Belgium on August 27. Good luck to all! Pete
Belgian Grand Prix
Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps, Spa-Francorchamps
Qualifying
Sat 26 Aug 19:00 (Thai time)
Race
Sun 27 Aug 19:00 (Thai time)
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