Electric Vehicles (EV) Thread

[pharvey]

I am guilty of being rude about battery cars, but not forum members who like them. If I am wrong, then I apologise.

No apologies needed - I'm sure I've been rude over a damn sight more! [EDIT] over a damn sight less....

[STEVE G]

Well, this news seems to have passed this forum by?

Sales of EV cars fell in Thailand in February and March 2024 challenging the kingdom’s vision as a green hub

https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news- ... arch-2024/

"Sales of EV vehicles in Thailand surprisingly fell in February and March this year. The trend is coinciding with plunging sales of internal combustion engine vehicles as well as falling production."

So the headline should have actually been, "Sales of cars fell."

[pharvey]

Well, this news seems to have passed this forum by?

Sales of EV cars fell in Thailand in February and March 2024 challenging the kingdom’s vision as a green hub

https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news- ... arch-2024/

"Sales of EV vehicles in Thailand surprisingly fell in February and March this year. The trend is coinciding with plunging sales of internal combustion engine vehicles as well as falling production."

So the headline should have actually been, "Sales of cars fell."

Agreed, and as far as I'm concerned - great!! HOWEVER:-

I don't change my car every 3-5 years (neither does my wife), they (cars) are looked after, serviced regularly and will run for years to come. WHY therefore are more and more cars required?

[STEVE G]

I don't change my car every 3-5 years (neither does my wife), they (cars) are looked after, serviced regularly and will run for years to come. WHY therefore are more and more cars required?

Maybe all those Asians with a whole family on a scooter would like a car as well.

[Big Boy]

You'd need more roads.

[pharvey]

Maybe all those Asians with a whole family on a scooter would like a car as well.

Well yes, but that's neither the question or the argument... Who exactly are "those Asians" btw?

You'd need more roads.

And likely another thread...

[Khundon1975]

I definitely believe that governments across the World are rushing the EV or nothing rules to fast and should possibly move back the no new ICE cars to purchase to 2040.
Having said that and despite being a dyed in the wool petrol head (owning several V 12 E Types and a diesel), EV ownership suits us just fine, especially as the range in our 2 new EV’s suit us just fine for the journeys we do because we have the ability to charge at home on cheap electric.
Millions who don’t have the ability to charge at home and are forced to pay huge costs per kWh on DC chargers are going to find owning an EV to be expensive, especially as most EV’s are expensive to purchase new.
The Chinese mean business and will flood the market until governments decide enough is enough and load their vehicle exports up with large tariffs to stem the flow.

[Khundon1975]

Electric pick-ups? These vehicles will be off the road more than on. They’ll be unreliable, prone to fires, needing constant charging, and the supplier will probably go bankrupt leaving the buyer with a worthless asset.
You’re welcome.

If I replied, it would be deleted

So would mine.

Come along now boys and girls (or otherwise), play nice.... Let's also try and respect other's views.

I'm still reeling from the "Icehole" bit - despite the fact I don't park in "Charging Spots", I'm apparently in a new "Anti-Group" due to the fact that I can't afford to change my (ICE) car(s).... Oh dear.

But, what's the feeling of Musk visiting China for negotiations regarding "Driver-Assisted" software? The whole "Driverless" issue continues,

Shared Technology? The likes of BYD will continue to have Chinese Government support - the Chinese will always steal technology, what the feck is Musk doing?

I am guilty of being rude about battery cars, but not forum members who like them. If I am wrong, then I apologise.

I may not agree with your views on EV ownership @2/cb
but I of course support your right to post your views.

[KhunLA]

I may not agree with your views on EV ownership @2/cb
but I of course support your right to post your views.

I don't, as his opinions are misleading and based on nothing but his bias of all things BEV.

If someone was to recommend Toyota, most would state they have a solid reputation and you can't go wrong. But since an BEV ... it will be total junk, supplier bankrupt ... bla bla bla

And yet, owns a Toyota and speaks highly of. But now BEV production of their very popular, Hilux, best selling truck in TH, (they already do BEV SUV) will send them into bankruptcy

No contradictions there ...
... These vehicles will be off the road more than on
... They’ll be unreliable prone to fires
.., needing constant charging
... and the supplier will probably go bankrupt

I think the only accurate thing he has stated in this thread is ...
... "Yes I am a wind-up merchant."

[pharvey]

^ Oh dear....

[STEVE G]

"Yes I am a wind-up merchant."

If you want to do that on here, it's much easier being pro-EV than anti, you can just post news items!

[STEVE G]

NIO ET7 tops over 1,000 km range, on one charge, in real-world tests

https://electricdrives.tv/nio-et7-tops- ... rld-tests/

"The company tried out three different routes between Chinese cities, with the ET7 managing to crack the 1,000km barrier on all three."

[GroveHillWanderer]

Pattaya launches electric baht-buses to tackle long-term pollution

https://www.pattayamail.com/news/pattay ... ion-459186

"PATTAYA, Thailand – In a bid to revolutionize public transportation and combat pollution, Pattaya City took a significant step forward on April 25 with the official handover of electric pickup trucks, Hilux Revo-e, for trial service as Baht-Buses, locally known as the Song Taew."

Electric pick-ups? These vehicles will be off the road more than on. They’ll be unreliable, prone to fires, needing constant charging, and the supplier will probably go bankrupt leaving the buyer with a worthless asset.
You’re welcome.

Most of what you say there is wrong. Different surveys give different figures but in at least some of them, EV's are only a little less reliable than ICE vehicles (and most of the problems are software-related rather than mechanical).

According to data published in Top Gear magazine, EV's are about 20 times less likely to catch fire than petrol and diesel cars.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/mythbu ... ching-fire

These Toyota EV pick ups don't have the longest range in the world, but with a range of around 220 km, they certainly won't need "constant charging."

And I don't think the supplier is all that likely to go bankrupt any time soon, since they're being supplied directly by Toyota as part of pre-production testing for this new model.

https://japannews.yomiuri.co.jp/busines ... 29-183078/

Toyota Tests Hilux Electric Pickup Trucks for Bus Services in Thai City

[2/cb]

Time will tell.

[KhunLA]

Time will tell.

While you're waiting, I'll be laughing all the way to the bank