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I used to live in Java, it’s a great place except that parts of it are over-populated and the potential for political violence is far worse than Thailand.lomuamart wrote:Java.
I lived in Surabaya for a while which is in the east and that’s a nice area with the added attraction that you can drive to Bali via a ferry for weekends away.
It has some great old colonial Dutch architecture, I used to go to a hotel that had been converted out of a Masonic lodge and there is another one that is very close to what the old Raffles was like.
There are also some great mountainous volcanoes that you can visit within a days drive.
Also after living in Java you will never complain about Thai driving again; the Thais drive like the Swiss when compared with Indonesians!
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What makes you think it's Gary? Just curious! Anyroad if it is can he pm me please? 

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Exactly the same but in the opposite ordersandman67 wrote:Laos
Cambodia
Vietnam
Malaysia
Indonesia
Phillipines
in that order

Phils has one of the better long stay programs (has a minimum investment requirement though). BKK flies direct to Angeles now btw.
Laos, Cam, Viet, either live in the capital or teach your kids yourself and don't get sick.
SJ