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IF you judge them or spit on them...
Good point
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I think most Thai's also have a negative view of Jewish people
There are at least two synagogues in Bangkok so unless you are a member of the JAT I think you should talk to one of the Rabbis there before condemning a nation to anti-semitism. See the first quote.
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Frank u obviously have too much time on your hands if you need to multi quote my response and take my words out of context to make others jump to the conclusion I am CONDEMNING a nation to anti-semitism.
I was just sharing my own observations in the past from my own life experiences. Only 2 synagogues and only 100+ mosques so What exactly is your point?
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Re: The Bangkok 'Hitler chic' fashion

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Sorry if I upset you, didn't mean to it, just looked you were contradicting yourself about judging people and then making broad statements about Thai views of Jewish people, maybe condemning was too strong a word.

As for the two synagogues, there are only a few hundred Jewish people permanently in Thailand so two is actually quite a lot, they also have a Jewish Cemetery in Bangkok.

There are over 1 million Muslims in Thailand so you'd expect there to be a few more mosques than synagogues.

Hope that information helps clarify my post a little.
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I was just sharing my own observations in the past from my own life experiences.
Obviously a 13 year old that has swallowed a dictionary, didn't we all have an opinion about everything and how to put the world straight at that age?
Why do we allow him to fame every thread? He has no experience of living in Thailand and by self admission is only a holiday maker, here for the local girls? Why would a 13 year old.........????.
Suggest MODS remove his account, after all he is BANNED and still continues to post obnoxious remarks and self opinionated comments.
HE spoils the whole HHAD experience for me and probably many other members.
Please don't tell me to ignore him, he is on most threads and his tone and subject matter is offensive!!!!
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Relax, Chas - the "Banned" means he has been banned since that last post! :wink:

(I think he was on a mission to see how long it would take...)
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Johnnywastaken wrote: The Nazis took the symbol and tilted it.... that's how you tell the difference....

The Buddhist symbol sits straight..... and the Nazi symbol sits tilted.... it's painfully obvious...
It's equally obvious that the Nazi swastika is reversed.
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Johnnywastaken wrote:
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.... The Nazis took the symbol and tilted it.... that's how you tell the difference....

The Buddhist symbol sits straight..... and the Nazi symbol sits tilted.... it's painfully obvious...
Sorry Johnny but it's also painfully obvious that the little arms at the ends of the sticks of the swastikas do in fact point in the opposite direction. So when is a swastika not a swastika? When it's a nazi interpretation of a buddhist symbol.
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AmnatAndaman wrote:In fact I saw some crazy farang with a Hitler-esque mustache driving his scooter around Hua Hin with a swastika tattoo on his arm and I tried to get my camera out in time to get a snap shot of him but I guess me old hands just dont work as they once did long ago, anyone seen this nutcase? He's about 200 pounds solid and wears a black helmet and he had a beautiful white skinned thai girl with him at the time on his garbage moblie. I think most Thai's also have a negative view of Jewish people and some guesthouses in the past actually put up signs where they said "NO JEWS ALLOWED" and remember in history which side Thailand was fighting for. But- I also agree as said above, HISTORY TEACHERS are not doing an effective job of teaching students about the awful genocide that Hitler once committed. SO when you see someone wearing a nazi shirt or showing off there nazi tattoos just be polite and ask them if they know what it means? If they dont understand Nazi's, teach them about the history (preferably with a Thai translator-your wife or GF) and if they agree of disagree, let them decide if its right or wrong what Hitler did. IF you judge them or spit on them as I've seen some Europeans do while in Phuket for wearing a Swastika t-shirt, you will certainly only worsen the animosity and tension between westerners and Thai's.....
Exactly which side was Thailand fighting for in history please AA? And despite the poor teaching of history in Thailand - why should Thais learn about genocide? (It didn't affect them at all in WW2)
And yet again - what to us is a swastika is to the Thais a completely different symbol which has nothing to do with anti-semitism.
As for the Thai people having a negative view of Jewish people - bulls..t. Most of them wouldn't even recognise a Jew if they fell over them in the NightMarket. And that is how it should be. The only race I have ever seen Thais be disrespectful to is Arabs. Not quite the same thing - nor for the same reasons.
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....Semantics....That may very well be.... I only commented on the obvious tilt...that is an instant giveaway... but I'm frantically going through my photos.... and I'm pretty sure that I have a shot of a tomb stone from a cemetery just outside My Lai Vietnam.... where it wasn't reversed... and the same as a nazi insignia but not tilted....
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Johnnywastaken wrote:....Semantics....That may very well be.... I only commented on the obvious tilt...that is an instant giveaway... but I'm frantically going through my photos.... and I'm pretty sure that I have a shot of a tomb stone from a cemetery just outside My Lai Vietnam.... where it wasn't reversed... and the same as a nazi insignia but not tilted....
Keep looking Johnny - it would be interesting. But remember that many headstones in many countries are dedicated to people who were foreigners wherever. There are Christian cemeteries in Thailand bearing crosses which are certainly not Bhuddhist. A grave stone anywhere in the world is personal to the person buried beneath it and doesn't have to reflect the religion of the country.
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dtaai-maai wrote:Relax, Chas - the "Banned" means he has been banned since that last post! :wink:

(I think he was on a mission to see how long it would take...)
Well he's managed it two times already, right?

I wonder what username RoboAndamanQueef will be using next...?
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margaretcarnes wrote:
Johnnywastaken wrote:....Semantics....That may very well be.... I only commented on the obvious tilt...that is an instant giveaway... but I'm frantically going through my photos.... and I'm pretty sure that I have a shot of a tomb stone from a cemetery just outside My Lai Vietnam.... where it wasn't reversed... and the same as a nazi insignia but not tilted....
Keep looking Johnny - it would be interesting. But remember that many headstones in many countries are dedicated to people who were foreigners wherever. There are Christian cemeteries in Thailand bearing crosses which are certainly not Bhuddhist. A grave stone anywhere in the world is personal to the person buried beneath it and doesn't have to reflect the religion of the country.
I'm sorry....I cannot locate the said photo...it may be on a baked computer... I give you the benefit of the doubt.... It's is backwards as well... although I'm positive that the only reason I took the photo was because it wasn't backwards.... your explanation may just justify the reasons... :)

I remember many years ago.... a Walmart store in the US received a shipment of Kinder surprise candy....(Before they were banned in the US)..... anyway... people and officials were in arms of the manufacturer because the inside prize was a small key chain doll.... depicting what looked like Hitler...complete with stache and the omnipresent Buddhist swastika.... it was like a lynch mob was forming... it was so bad... But when the smoke subsided.... and the manufacturer stated that those prizes were made in a Japanese factory and in fact were depictions of Emperor Hirohito... the average US consumer still boycotted them because it had a Nazi swastika painted on it.... :wink:
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Only in the States eh? It's quite scary that Walmart owns Asda.....
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margaretcarnes wrote:Only in the States eh? It's quite scary that Walmart owns Asda.....
I don't get that Mags - whats the problem?
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Top Thai University Apologizes for Hitler Banner
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Thailand’s premier university has apologized for displaying a billboard that showed Adolf Hitler alongside Superman and other superheroes, saying Monday it was painted by ignorant students who didn’t realize Hitler’s image would offend anyone.

The huge billboard was placed outside the art faculty of Chulalongkorn University as part of a tribute to this year’s graduating class.

It said “Congratulations” in bold white letters and showed Hitler with his arm raised in a Nazi salute next to Batman, Captain America, the Incredible Hulk and Iron Man.

“[We] would like to formally express our sincere apology for our students’ ‘Superhero’ mural,” art school dean Suppakorn Disatapundhu said in a statement issued Monday. “I can assure you we are taking this matter very seriously.”

The billboard was up for two days before being removed Saturday in response to criticism. Online photographs showed graduating students in their robes, mimicking Hitler’s raised arm salute.

Suppakorn said that freshman art students had painted the banner as part of a traditional send-off from incoming students to the graduating class, and it was one of dozens of banners and billboards across the campus during the university’s commencement period.

The artistic vision behind the picture was to show that good and bad people co-exist in the world, Suppakorn said after summoning the students for an explanation.

“They told me the concept was to paint a picture of superheroes who protect the world,” the dean said in a telephone interview.

“Hitler was supposed to serve as a conceptual paradox to the superheroes,” he said, noting that the superheroes were painted in vivid colors, while Hitler’s image was in grey scale. “This kind of thoughtless display will not happen again.”

The Simon Wiesenthal Center, an international Jewish human rights group, had criticized the banner prior to its removal.

“Hitler as a superhero? Is he an appropriate role model for Thailand’s younger generation—a genocidal hate monger who mass murdered Jews and Gypsies and who considered people of color as racially inferior,” Rabbi Abraham Cooper, associate dean at the center, said in a statement Friday. “The Simon Wiesenthal Center is outraged and disgusted by this public display at Thailand’s leading school of higher education.”

The study of history in the Thai school system revolves primarily around the history of Thailand and its long line of kings. World history is glossed over, with little or no mention of the Holocaust.

Source: Irrawaddy
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