Hua Hin's most dangerous pedestrian crossing

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Re: Hua Hin's most dangerous pedestrian crossing

Post by Big Boy » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:02 pm

I disagree, Thailand needs a police force capable of enforcing the law, and handing out penalties that won't just buy a bottle of whisky, but deter re-offenders.
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Re: Hua Hin's most dangerous pedestrian crossing

Post by hhinner » Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:28 pm

^^ Agree. Thailand should establish a police force. Maybe more than one, but one would be a start.

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Re: Hua Hin's most dangerous pedestrian crossing

Post by HHTel » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:04 pm

Didn't I read a while back that they were going to 'outsource' some of the police powers to the local authority, such as traffic violations.

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Re: Hua Hin's most dangerous pedestrian crossing

Post by caller » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:56 pm

I might try and find out from my other half who works for The Mall group, although not at Bluport, but I believe that the lights and those at Bangkok Hospital have been provided by the companies themselves and as such it's possible they are not even formally recognised by the Police here. Seems crazy, but this is Thailand.
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Re: Hua Hin's most dangerous pedestrian crossing

Post by Big Boy » Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:08 pm

Surely a traffic light is a traffic light. If it's not recognised there should be notices warning that to use this facility could result in death.

Sorry caller, but even though probably correct, that has to be a ludicrous suggestion. Private traffic lights - maybe I'll erect one outside my house. :? What's the point if they're not recognised.
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Re: Hua Hin's most dangerous pedestrian crossing

Post by HHTel » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:22 pm

Yes they were paid for by the Mall Group but doesn't make them any less legal. The altered road system on the south side of the flyover was paid for by the Vana Nava owners but the roads are legal. Most of the elevated U-turns in BKK were paid for by private companies.
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Re: Hua Hin's most dangerous pedestrian crossing

Post by 404cameljockey » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:17 pm

I worry equally about the guys guiding pedestrians across the road at those points, even asking the traffic to stop. If someone dies because they make a bad call, where is the liability? They're not government appointed I guess? Yes TIT so asking about legal liability is often like 'making water into the wind', but....

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Re: Hua Hin's most dangerous pedestrian crossing

Post by HHTel » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:16 am

I make a point of taking no notice of them at all and obey the lights.

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Re: Hua Hin's most dangerous pedestrian crossing

Post by StevePIraq » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:33 pm

Big Boy wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:02 pm
I disagree, Thailand needs a police force capable of enforcing the law, and handing out penalties that won't just buy a bottle of whisky, but deter re-offenders.
No country can have a police officer at every crossing, so it cannot come down to police enforcement.
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Re: Hua Hin's most dangerous pedestrian crossing

Post by Dannie Boy » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:46 pm

StevePIraq wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:33 pm
Big Boy wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:02 pm
I disagree, Thailand needs a police force capable of enforcing the law, and handing out penalties that won't just buy a bottle of whisky, but deter re-offenders.
No country can have a police officer at every crossing, so it cannot come down to police enforcement.
Clearly it’s not possible to have police on every corner, but if the police (of which there are plenty in Thailand) a) did their job properly and b) it was backed by effective deterrents (proper fines, penalty points, loss of license etc), the message would soon get through.

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Re: Hua Hin's most dangerous pedestrian crossing

Post by StevePIraq » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:04 pm

So that means the UK police are also crap and ineffective as there have been numerous hit and runs including on pedestrian crossing in the UK recently. Don't always blame the police, the population have something to do with it.
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Re: Hua Hin's most dangerous pedestrian crossing

Post by Big Boy » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:15 pm

:roll: Really?

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Re: Hua Hin's most dangerous pedestrian crossing

Post by Dannie Boy » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:25 pm

StevePIraq wrote:So that means the UK police are also crap and ineffective as there have been numerous hit and runs including on pedestrian crossing in the UK recently. Don't always blame the police, the population have something to do with it.
I doubt there are any statistics available to compare driving infringements in the UK and Thailand, but it’s a safe bet that if the UK didn’t have effective deterrents in place, the incidence of infringement would be significantly higher than it is - as I type this I’m watching the UK Channel 5 “Traffic Cops” which shows the guys who break the rules, heaven knows what it would be like if there wasn’t effective counter measures in place - police in high powered cars, helicopters, ANPC cameras.


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Re: Hua Hin's most dangerous pedestrian crossing

Post by StevePIraq » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:32 pm

All of these threads about road safety have one major thing in common, Thai and numerous foreigners who see no need to comply with the law. This not only applies to roads but most things in life in Thailand, people feel they can do anything they want.
Yes there needs to be a competent police force, adequate penalties etc. but more so it needs education of the population so they become law abiding citizens.
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Re: Hua Hin's most dangerous pedestrian crossing

Post by STEVE G » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:41 pm

It's a bit of an extreme solution but when I lived in Jakarta about twenty years ago they forced people to use pedestrian bridges on some major roads by putting fences down the central reservations. There were some places where the quickest way of crossing a road was to get a taxi to the next U turn and back!

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