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It was rumoured that there would be an electric PCX available in Thailand this year. If so I certainly would be interested, perhaps linking it to solar panels on the car port.
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NOKYAI wrote: Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:42 pm It was rumoured that there would be an electric PCX available in Thailand this year. If so I certainly would be interested, perhaps linking it to solar panels on the car port.
Yes, I asked about them at Honda a couple of months ago and they said that it was still happening but they didn't have a release date at that time.
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NOKYAI wrote: Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:42 pm It was rumoured that there would be an electric PCX available in Thailand this year. If so I certainly would be interested, perhaps linking it to solar panels on the car port.
Cheaper to charge direct rather than by solar unless you already have solar (photo voltaic) installed. Electricity is so cheap in Thailand.
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StevePIraq wrote: Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:57 pm
NOKYAI wrote: Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:42 pm It was rumoured that there would be an electric PCX available in Thailand this year. If so I certainly would be interested, perhaps linking it to solar panels on the car port.
Cheaper to charge direct rather than by solar unless you already have solar (photo voltaic) installed. Electricity is so cheap in Thailand.
Many people I speak to complain that the price of electricity in Thailand has increased quite a bit of late, so not “cheap” as such, but no doubt still cheaper to run a battery PCX or car on electric power than fossil fuel.
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I have a neighbour who complains constantly about his high electricity bills. Not once, but several times I have been at his house--the patio doors are wide open and the A/C going full blast.
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Dannie Boy wrote: Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:01 pm
StevePIraq wrote: Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:57 pm
NOKYAI wrote: Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:42 pm It was rumoured that there would be an electric PCX available in Thailand this year. If so I certainly would be interested, perhaps linking it to solar panels on the car port.
Cheaper to charge direct rather than by solar unless you already have solar (photo voltaic) installed. Electricity is so cheap in Thailand.
Many people I speak to complain that the price of electricity in Thailand has increased quite a bit of late, so not “cheap” as such, but no doubt still cheaper to run a battery PCX or car on electric power than fossil fuel.
My point being you should calculate the cost of a soal power installation then devide it by your monthly electricty bill to determine how many months required to pay back, remembering that new batteries and panels may be be required during the recovery period, that way you will see the it is not viable in Thailand at this time. Naturaly if a system is installed just for bike charging it will be much smaller, but you still need a pay back period.
I do not check the cost per unit of electricity here but my bill remains around the same as it was 5 years ago with no real change in our consumption.
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I know the infrastructure is not yet developed to sell your electricity back to the providers, but it could offset pool pumps, bike charging, fridge/freezers which are all during daylight hours. In my case the pool and fridge are probably the biggest consumers as we use very little air conditioning.
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The following links gives a good indication of charging costs in the UK, I have no idea if you can find similar for Thailand

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-tech/e ... es-and-top

https://pod-point.com/landing-pages/cos ... ectric-car

As for selling power back to the utility it all depends what rate they will pay. A friend in Australia has solar and last month his bill was +/- AU$300, he was paid 350 for what he sent back into the grid. So he is on a winner in the good months. That may have been a quarterly not monthly bill.
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:offtopic: Can we please keep this to Electric Cars. There are other threads already in existence if you wish to discuss solar power or the cost of electricity.
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BMW mulls electric motorcycles

https://www.bangkokpost.com/auto/news/1 ... otorcycles

BMW Group Thailand, a local arm of the German carmaker, is conducting a local feasibility study of electric motorcycles.

Newly appointed president Christian Wiedmann said BMW will test the C evolution maxi-scooter on Thai roads.

But he said the group has yet to make any decisions on the C evolution being imported or assembled in the country, though the local plant in Rayong province is one of three strategic plants for the group's motorcycle business.

The C evolution uses the battery modules of the latest BMW i3 100% electric vehicle (EV). One charge ranges up to 160km at a maximum speed of 130kph.

The bike will be sold commercially around July in the US market with a retail price of UScopy3,750 (440,949 baht).
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Nereus wrote: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:53 pm BMW mulls electric motorcycles

https://www.bangkokpost.com/auto/news/1 ... otorcycles

BMW Group Thailand, a local arm of the German carmaker, is conducting a local feasibility study of electric motorcycles.

Newly appointed president Christian Wiedmann said BMW will test the C evolution maxi-scooter on Thai roads.

But he said the group has yet to make any decisions on the C evolution being imported or assembled in the country, though the local plant in Rayong province is one of three strategic plants for the group's motorcycle business.

The C evolution uses the battery modules of the latest BMW i3 100% electric vehicle (EV). One charge ranges up to 160km at a maximum speed of 130kph.

The bike will be sold commercially around July in the US market with a retail price of UScopy3,750 (440,949 baht).

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Looks good although not dissimilar to a Honda PCX....... other than the price, which is about 5 times a petrol PCX so they would need to make it in Thailand to have any hope of selling many
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STEVE G wrote: Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:55 pm
NOKYAI wrote: Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:42 pm It was rumoured that there would be an electric PCX available in Thailand this year. If so I certainly would be interested, perhaps linking it to solar panels on the car port.
Yes, I asked about them at Honda a couple of months ago and they said that it was still happening but they didn't have a release date at that time.
I touched a pure electric Honda PCX at the iEVTech electric vehicle conference in Bangkok last week. The lady at the booth said it will go on sale before the end of 2018 but she wouldn't tell me what the price was.

You can see it, along with the swappable battery pack and city car in my video here:
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That Honda city car in the video above is similar to the Renault Twizy which has been around in Europe for a few years now. You see quite a few of them around where I am in Luxembourg city, I think mainly because you can find places to park them on the small old streets in the centre of town. I know of one restaurant where the owner literally parks one inside his restaurant at closing time.
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Short Circuit: The High Cost of Electric Vehicle Subsidies.
Using a recent forecast prepared by the U.S. Energy Information Administration, the analysis in the new report, "Short Circuit: The High Cost of Electric Vehicle Subsidies," shows that, over the period 2018 – 2050, the electric generating plants that will charge new EVs will emit more air pollution than the same number of new internal combustion engines, even accounting for air pollution from oil refineries that manufacture gasoline. As for the greenhouse gas reductions promised by EV advocates, Lesser’s analysis finds that the reduction will be less than one percent of all energy-related U.S. emissions over that same time period, and will have no impact on climate whatsoever.
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