World cup final..... Point of view

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World cup final..... Point of view

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Congratulations to Italy.

I watched the whole game and this is what I have to say about it :

At halftime, I thought the Italians deserved to win the Final because they were the more dangerous team on the pitch, going forward and playing to score. they outplayed the French. No doubt about that. And the penalty was very Generous.

However, the entire second half and overtime (includind the 20mn they had with an extra man) Italy stayed back and did not try and attack. The team was just a reminisce of what we saw in the first half. Not because the French played better, but you could sense that the Italians were waiting for the Penalties.

Overall, I'd say France played better (only cause they attacked, or tried to for the whole time). but we all know by now that it is not necessarily the best team that wins in the end.

Regarding the Zidane Incident, I can say I am not surprised. Yes the man is a pure genius, unequalled on the pitch, but his bad temper and short fuse is nothing new... he was already sent off in 1998, and many times with Real Madrid. I think that the Italian knew that and insulted him profusely to get a reaction from Zidane (which he got).
I am not blaming the Italian, Zidane, at 34 should have known better... Tough luck. It doesn't change anything about what he has achieved.

Penalty kicks are Penalty Kicks, in 1998, France beat the Italians, and yesterday, Italy prevailed.

I am pround of what my countrymen have achieved, going to the Final was not easy and they showed heart to advance in the competition.

I am happy for Italy, the players gave their all on the Pitch and also gave their hearts out in this Tournament.


Congratulations to Italy.

(I am french btw)
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This world cup didn't give anything for audience, that's only mine opinion. :idea: Too much money on the fields these days. I hope that some day people understand the reason why the soccer WAS maybe the most interesting game. When I was a junior, I played because it was fun.

Today here in Finland was good article about team of EU. Idea was that there can play one player from each country. Only young talents, no old "stars" at all. Of course Germany, England, Italy and so on should have their own teams. But I think that Now Europe have a chance to show for the world that football can be something else than money, big sponsors etc...

But anyway good for Italy that they got the championship because they have a problems with serie A and I understand how important football are for them. :bow:
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The concept of nationality regulations at club level was raised a couple of years ago within FIFA. The survey concluded that it would be damaging to the sport if any such measure was introduced.

Under European ruling it is not possible to selct nationality. Every member can work anywhere in the EU without restriction. The opening up of the EU to Eastern Bloc countries would make the changes less realistic.

The positive effect was that the top clubs in Europe that can afford the likes of Eto'o, Shevchenko, Ronaldinio, Carlos, Renaldo and Essien would be restricted.

The negative effect is that players from those countries could no longer play at the level that they deserve and salaries would be lowered for the third world players.

It will be interesting to see the move to enforce the UK to have only one national team rather than four. This could pave the way for a Benelux or Scandinavian team for certain copmpetitions. This is already done in Rugby for the British Lions.

I am not sure how Finland could benefit as I could not see much support for a link with Russia or Sweden.
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Guess wrote:It will be interesting to see the move to enforce the UK to have only one national team rather than four. This is already done in Rugby for the British Lions.
No Guess, The Lions is purely a touring side that plays in a single series of matches every four years. Each of the four 'home' unions is independent and represented by its 'national' team. Indeed there is pressure from some quarters to abandon the Lions because it is considered an anacronism in an era of professional rugby that has its own World Cup. The only reason The Lions still exist is because of the amount of revenue the tour generates for the nations that host The Lions (once each every twelve years!) - i.e. Aus, NZ, SA.

Unless, of course, you are talking about those other 'Lions' up north - that is an artificial union contrived in order to enlarge the playing base for the England, sorry, GB losers and turn them into GB winners. Needless to say, it didn't work.
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Guess wrote:It will be interesting to see the move to enforce the UK to have only one national team rather than four.
This has of course been bandied around for years. As per the GB roogbee leeeg team, it will have absolutely no impact on the fortunes of the England team masquerading as a UK team that it would produce but it would be interesting to see the political and social impact it would have in terms of the removal of what are important national institutions at a stroke. I think such a proposal will always be strongly resisted in Wales and especially Scotland for this reason alone, probably almost as much in England but maybe it would be welcomed in Northern Ireland?
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Just shows what I know about Rugby. I thought that there had been a team comprising of nations from the British Isles.

Sorry Jankou, looks like I have been talking bollocks again.

Funny how one thing leads to another. Back to bad jokes for me for the rest of the day.
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Mai pen rai :thumb:

It's quite normal that conversation goes up and down, sometimes even from football to rugby. :D :shock: :D
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Jankou wrote:But anyway good for Italy that they got the championship because they have a problems with serie A and I understand how important football are for them. :bow:
Problems of their own making I rather think. No need for us to feel sympathy for them, it's not the first time that cheating has been an issue in Italian football.
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Guess wrote:The concept of nationality regulations at club level was raised a couple of years ago within FIFA. The survey concluded that it would be damaging to the sport if any such measure was introduced.
No, it would be illegal under the current employment laws of the EU. :D Just imagine if a UK company said it'd only employ white Englishmen & women. There would be an almighty uproar, not unsurprisingly. It would be a daft rule, imo.
Guess wrote:It will be interesting to see the move to enforce the UK to have only one national team rather than four.
Has such a proposal been made then? Who would do the enforcing & on what legal basis? It won't happen cos of vested interests, the Welsh & Scottish FA's would be the big losers. Anyway, I can't imagine the Scots. & English sharing a common footie team, not with the history between the two countries.
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Maybe somebody should suggest to the Scottish FA that they could substantially improve their team if they merged with the Faroe Islands. After all, if Faroe Islands were able to draw with Scotland, that would suggest they are equally as bad as Scotland.

Or do 2 bads not make a good?

Maybe Scotland could strengthen their Rugby team the same way?
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