Ear Wax Removal

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huahin4ever wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:43 am Unfortunately many of the private hospitals in Thailand have become sloppy and thinking only of how they can invoice as much as possible. It is a shame if you ask me, but I guess a part of the problem is the insurance business. They are the ones driving the prices up.
That's what hospitals do make money. Take off your western welfare state mentality it doesn't work here.
As you know the wealthy in the UK have private insurance and don't queue up for procedures. It's the same here.
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Bubba1 wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:17 am
huahin4ever wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:43 am Unfortunately many of the private hospitals in Thailand have become sloppy and thinking only of how they can invoice as much as possible. It is a shame if you ask me, but I guess a part of the problem is the insurance business. They are the ones driving the prices up.
That's what hospitals do make money. Take off your western welfare state mentality it doesn't work here.
As you know the wealthy in the UK have private insurance and don't queue up for procedures. It's the same here.
Well, my mother has used the facilities here on two occasions. One was laser treatment on her eyes, and the other was for a complete set of new dentures. She has also spent time in two hospitals, the last one in Petcharat with DVT. The two procedures she had done here because she was fed up of waiting in the UK. Dentistry is not free back home but just trying to get an appointment was near impossible. In Thailand there was no waiting, and the dentistry was cheaper than back home!
She comments that the health care here, although you have to pay for it, knocks spots off the NHS. Although the NHS is free, the costs here (unless something very serious) is little money.
She always uses HH Hospital if needed when she's here.
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Bubba, yes, you've got me I'm only a poor British pensioner. However, I accept that some people have a lot more money than me. So long as they gained that money legally, I am always pleased to hear that some people have done well in life and have accumulated wealth, so well done. However, I don't understand why that should make me British.

Now, this isn't meant as offensive, but there is the saying, 'A fool and his money..........................'

HHTel has hinted at horror stories about misdiagnosis. The fact is that some hospitals will not admit they don't have the correct skill set, and rather than admit their shortcomings, they will attempt to treat a condition beyond their ability. My wife's life was also put at risk. She has a condition that requires specialised medication. In this instance, they put her on a medication that made her seriously ill. I rushed her to Petcharat Hospital for a second opinion. They admitted that they weren't qualified to treat the condition, but we were lucky because the only person South of Bangkok who was, had a clinic in Petchaburi. They arranged a motorbike taxi for me to follow, and we went straight to the clinic. He told us that if we had continued with the treatment, my wife would only have got worse. He stopped that medication immediately, and put her on the correct medication. He confirmed that he was, at that time, the only person South of Bangkok who could prescribe the correct medication (from his clinic, which was the grubbiest clinic I've ever been to). After a couple of years with the Petchaburi clinic, Hua Hin Hospital are now able to care for my wife's condition.

However, I'm off topic again :oops: we are talking about minor procedures that can be undertaken by all 'classes' of medical institute. An example of inefficiency, even with minor procedures. I had a leg wound, which when treated, the doctor applied antibiotic cream. My treatment was to continue at home with my wife applying the cream. I always check any medication given to me before self-use. The doctor had given me vaginal cream. I went straight back to see the doctor to query his prescription, and there on his desk was my prescription. He'd given me the wrong cream i.e. 2 similar looking containers on his desk.

Now I could write a book on mistakes made in my first 2 years here by the better private hospitals, which if I hadn't had a relative working at the hospital overseeing what they were doing to me, I would have had a limb amputated, and would have spent a week in a Bangkok decompression chamber. None of which was necessary.

If you want to throw your money at the more expensive medical facilities for minor treatments, that is obviously your choice. For anything more serious, I urge you to get a second opinion before moving forward with their treatment.

Yes, I'm a poor Brit, surviving on a pension, but I did put my health first. I had been brainwashed (by this forum) and always went to the best (yes, I had a relative working there, and received preferential pricing), but in 2 years, they made so many bad calls I am now with a government facility, and actually very impressed (if I want a coffee on a soft seat, I can walk to the coffee shop and, invest an extra 40 Baht, and that gives me real coffee instead of instant).

The fact is, ear wax removal costs 500 Baht - probably a lot less away from Hua Hin's inflated prices. Some places may charge a little extra, but a 350% mark up should not be encouraged.
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Read all about it! :shock:
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My wife and I both had our ears vacuumed yesterday at the ENT clinic on Petchkasem opposite Soi 51 (Dr Piyanuch, I think the name was, a young woman). The cost was 880 baht -- 200 baht an ear, plus 80 baht for drops to treat my wife's ear infection. No free coffee, I'm afraid, but top-end health care. No need to pay more.
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Whoa ... People pay to have their ears cleaned, and doesn't appear to be inexpensive.

Ears are one of the easiest parts of you body to maintain. They do sell ear buds (Q-tip), and easy enough, especially just out of the shower with the residual water that seeped it, which you should try to get out anyway. That's just too easy, and the cost of good ear buds.

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laphanphon wrote: Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:01 pm Whoa ... People pay to have their ears cleaned, and doesn't appear to be inexpensive.

Ears are one of the easiest parts of you body to maintain. They do sell ear buds (Q-tip), and easy enough, especially just out of the shower with the residual water that seeped it, which you should try to get out anyway. That's just too easy, and the cost of good ear buds.

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Got to agree with you there. Unless you have an irregular ear canal (misshapen - not entirely uncommon) there's no need for anything other than normal personal hygiene. I refrain from any water out of taps in Thailand going into my ear, mind. Used to get regular ear infections letting that swamp water in. For my ears I use bottled water with Q-tip or ear drops. 2 minutes of my time a day.
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Your body already has a way to deal with earwax it no longer needs. Chewing, other jaw movements, and skin growing inside your ear will push old earwax out naturally. Using cotton swabs, however, can push the wax deeper into your ear canal. You might also seriously damage sensitive ear canal skin or your eardrum.
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Our water down here / PKK is pretty good, a good aroma of chlorine, sometimes very strong, obviously worked on a pipe somewhere.

If you neglect your daily / weekly maintenance, and feel the wax is built up a bit more, and need some assistance loosening, a drop or 2 of mineral oil, and wait a day of so, and all will loosen up. That's all the ear doc gives you if you let it go that far.

For those listening to the money generating, doom and gloom of 'don't put anything larger than your elbow in your ear', from the professional, who first thing they do, is stick something in your ear. Fear not, as just past that opening to your inner ear, is a rather large cavity, much larger then than Q-tip. Unless doing something fast and aggressive, you're not going to hurt yourself.

All you're doing is swabbing the sides and edge of the hole, where wax accumulates, and no need to go deeper. Actually you don't want to, as the wax is there for protection. Although, if riding a scooter, the sound and dirt, will promote a bit more than needed, and it will build up.

At worst, you may get close to your eardrum, which you'll know immediately, but won't damage. It's in much further than you need to go. Besides, must of us ol' farts have plenty of hair in there to cushion the eardrum, we'll probably never actually touch it.

Now if wanting to play doctor, and swimming in suspect water, to avoid swimmer's ear, then a drop of 2 of peroxide (food grade 3 %), will do the trick. Let that sit a second, then rinse out, thoroughly. Don't Q-tip for couple days, or after a couple showers till well flush out. Made that mistake once.....damn annoying .... LOL

Forgot to rinse once, and rubbed the peroxide in the sensitive skin, and took a bit of water flush to cool down .... LOL

If you hear a bunch of noise, when applying the peroxide, that massive bubbly, it will seem like, means there was already some bacteria in there, and it's doing it's job, killing it off.

Same as if putting on a scrape or cut to cleanse, the the bubbly seems really loud, since next to your eardrum.

Or......continue at the doc / hosp, for maintenance every 6 months or yearly intervals, and pay for them to do basically the same.

I've had years of experience with ear problems, and after paying attention to the docs, just simply followed their lead, though much more frequent, weekly, and never had the need for their services again.
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laphanphon wrote: Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:06 pm For those listening to the money generating, doom and gloom of 'don't put anything larger than your elbow in your ear',
Would be a difficult task for most, I'd have thought. :shock:
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Check that, having a brain fart day........should be 'smaller than your elbow'... :oops:

Should make more sense ..... :banghead:
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H2o2 will cause the wax to spray around the inside of the ear, it's better to mix H2o2 w/alcohol, 50/50. That will cut the wax and you can easily remove it with a cue tip. Info via the person who fit my hearing aids.
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HHTel wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:54 am I had my ears done recently at a clinic on the 'soi with no name' running from soi 94 to the food market. About half way down on the right. Several doctors with different specialities. The latest equipment and for earwax removal they used a machine that sucked out the wax while doing a 'jet wash' at the same time. All went into a machine the size of a small washing machine. I was very impressed. 500 baht!
Do you happen to remember (or know) the opening hours for this clinic? I tried to look for them online but I couldn't find any online presence.
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I'll find out for you. As far as I recall, it's only open in the evening. Should you have to wait, there's an excellent bar/restaurant directly opposite.
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