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I was speaking to a lady last night who told me that there are officials in Hua Hin this weekend who have come to perform a survey on adding the second line of track to the SRT line between BKK and the South.

Now my Thai isn't brilliant, but from what I understand, the current idea is to build it on the stretch that currently houses all the restaurants and bars that go alongside the railway line (Kim's Kitchen, Bia Bar, that nice Indian at the end of Soi 80 etc).

That doesn't really make much sense to me. Firstly because they'd have to pay off an awful lot of restaurant owners (providing that they are there legitimately in the first place) to make it happen - when there's a perfectly good virtually unused stretch available on the other side of the tracks, and secondly they'd surely have to demolish the current train station to move it forward (unless they're planning on having the station in the middle of the two lines?) - and I can't see that being allowed given its historic significance?

Anyway, does anybody have any more information on this story?
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I always thought that was railway land anyway, and people using it were only paying nominal rent anyway. Mind you, my belief is based on what I've been told by Thais, and they believe in ghosts :shock:
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Yes, I think a lot of the land may well belong to SRT so it's up to them.
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^^ I agree. I've also been told some of the restaurants and shops on the east side of that road are already making plans to accommodate this. i.e. second storey rooms and expansion out back
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When I hear people talk about adding stories onto existing building here it makes me shake in fear. A lot of Asia is a digest of disasters when this has been done, and Thailand is no exception. I hope the inspectors are out in force if add-on's are really the plan, and don't take backhanders. Pete
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Pleng wrote:I was speaking to a lady last night who told me that there are officials in Hua Hin this weekend who have come to perform a survey on adding the second line of track to the SRT line between BKK and the South.

Now my Thai isn't brilliant, but from what I understand, the current idea is to build it on the stretch that currently houses all the restaurants and bars that go alongside the railway line (Kim's Kitchen, Bia Bar, that nice Indian at the end of Soi 80 etc).

That doesn't really make much sense to me. Firstly because they'd have to pay off an awful lot of restaurant owners (providing that they are there legitimately in the first place) to make it happen - when there's a perfectly good virtually unused stretch available on the other side of the tracks, and secondly they'd surely have to demolish the current train station to move it forward (unless they're planning on having the station in the middle of the two lines?) - and I can't see that being allowed given its historic significance?

Anyway, does anybody have any more information on this story?
I agree that it doesn't make much sense. It is railway land but it doesn't line up with the land they've already graded along the line south of soi 88. It would also upset the municipality's traffic planning I would think.

Besides, the dual tracking reports mention Bangkok to Hua Hin, and Prachuab southwards for the first stage. The Hua Hin to Prachuab link will come later. Does leave a bottleneck though.
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Pleng wrote:I was speaking to a lady last night who told me that there are officials in Hua Hin this weekend who have come to perform a survey on adding the second line of track to the SRT line between BKK and the South.

Now my Thai isn't brilliant, but from what I understand, the current idea is to build it on the stretch that currently houses all the restaurants and bars that go alongside the railway line (Kim's Kitchen, Bia Bar, that nice Indian at the end of Soi 80 etc).

That doesn't really make much sense to me. Firstly because they'd have to pay off an awful lot of restaurant owners (providing that they are there legitimately in the first place) to make it happen - when there's a perfectly good virtually unused stretch available on the other side of the tracks, and secondly they'd surely have to demolish the current train station to move it forward (unless they're planning on having the station in the middle of the two lines?) - and I can't see that being allowed given its historic significance?

Anyway, does anybody have any more information on this story?
I agree that it doesn't make much sense. It is railway land but it doesn't line up with the land they've already graded along the line south of soi 88. It would also upset the municipality's traffic planning I would think.

Besides, the dual tracking reports mention Bangkok to Hua Hin, and Prachuab southwards for the first stage. The Hua Hin to Prachuab link will come later. Does leave a bottleneck though.
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If the plan is, as described, to make space for dual track south of the station - (which wouldn't surprise me at all btw) - how are they going to deal with the situation north of the station? There's a reservoir one side of the track. To use the other side of the track and therefore keep in a straight line would surely affect the Night Market? And would also - as Pleng suggests - mean having to either re-locate the station buildings or to have one track either side of them. The Fire Station might also have to be moved.
But when you think about it there hasn't been much permanent development at all from just north of the Chomsin crossing down to at least Soi 80.
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I always thought it was the opposite side of the road that was going to be cleared. was talked about 8 years ago first time i visited HH. Not sure how it would work though.
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It will be interesting as to what will be the final decision , as this is Thailand.
I guess it will be something else for me to view, in a few years. As for those bars and restaurants right against the track, when I ate there, I always said a prayer that the trains did not derail, whilst
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The original plans that were given to us by the SRT about 3 yrs ago now had the ROAD shaving the front off each property down the Rd South of the station..so imagine dropping the 2nd/new line in east of the present one, then in turn shifting the road over out of its way.
The convenience store that opened just up from Kim's catered for this & was set-back slightly.
Most venues along this road on the east side were told by SRT to expect to lose 3m off their plots.
(& yes it is indeed SRT land all the way down & each property pays 'land tax' on a daily basis to them)
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Pleng wrote:I was speaking to a lady last night who told me that there are officials in Hua Hin this weekend who have come to perform a survey on adding the second line of track to the SRT line between BKK and the South.

Now my Thai isn't brilliant, but from what I understand, the current idea is to build it on the stretch that currently houses all the restaurants and bars that go alongside the railway line (Kim's Kitchen, Bia Bar, that nice Indian at the end of Soi 80 etc).

That doesn't really make much sense to me. Firstly because they'd have to pay off an awful lot of restaurant owners (providing that they are there legitimately in the first place) to make it happen - when there's a perfectly good virtually unused stretch available on the other side of the tracks, and secondly they'd surely have to demolish the current train station to move it forward (unless they're planning on having the station in the middle of the two lines?) - and I can't see that being allowed given its historic significance?


Anyway, does anybody have any more information on this story?
Pleng If they can build a police station in the middle of a motorway, then surrounding a building of historical significance with rail tracks, is right up their street, or should I say, tracks.

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Recent news about the plans for dual track - mainly up north - don't seem to indicate that anything will move quickly at all. No surprise there then. But the proposed northern dual tracks aren't even going to cater for full speed high speed trains anyway.
If the long term plan is to dual track in prep for HSTs it all seems pretty much doomed to me!
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I thought the dual track idea here was instead of the HST.
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