Point-deduction system will hit bad drivers

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HHTel wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:30 pm There is always a way to give enough space for an ambulance to pass. This is one time when the lane markings can be overruled.
I'd agree, and always find a way, but is there a similar penalty for abusers?

A few weeks ago, I was travelling North through the centre of Hua Hin when I pulled over to give way to an ambulance. I continued following the ambulance with his lights flashing and sirens wailing. As he approached a petrol station, he switched everything off and pulled in for fuel. If it wasn't so sad/funny, the thought of an ambulance running out of fuel, I'd have been very P'd.
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Big Boy wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:06 pm
HHTel wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:30 pm There is always a way to give enough space for an ambulance to pass. This is one time when the lane markings can be overruled.
I'd agree, and always find a way, but is there a similar penalty for abusers?

A few weeks ago, I was travelling North through the centre of Hua Hin when I pulled over to give way to an ambulance. I continued following the ambulance with his lights flashing and sirens wailing. As he approached a petrol station, he switched everything off and pulled in for fuel. If it wasn't so sad/funny, the thought of an ambulance running out of fuel, I'd have been very P'd.
Last week i driving north on Petkhasem, around 5:30PM, traffic was at a standstill on both sides of the road. An ambulance, with flashing lights, was stuck, going south, with no lane to go in.
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I agree when at a standstill, there's not much you can do. Even moving very slowly, you can force the traffic to your left. I've done it several times and the car will edge left also or be hit by me.
One of the problems is the 'safety zone' (hard shoulder) is used by Thais when the other lanes are full. It's an offence but I've never heard of anyone being 'ticketed' for it.
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A few thoughts:

Give way to the ambulance that drive around all day with their emergency lights on.....LOL (I do give way, but understand how many don't)

In the past, and present, had a 3 moving violations, and license revoked (past).

Don't pay ticket / violations, vehicle reg. / license not renewed (present). Along with confiscation of vehicles until compliant.

Neither of which ever enforced and computers integrated or used properly to enforce. Past and present system didn't / isn't working or enforced, so a new one will accomplish what ?

Of the few tickets / receipts (many) that we've been issued, only one had a Dr. Lic # on it, to actually stipulate who actually received the ticket. Seems the tickets are just an accounting receipt. More for keeping the collecting BIB honest, instead of protecting. Granted, repeated fines may motivate some, the poor, to wear helmets, but that's about it.

More camera tickets are ignored, trashed than paid, because recipients know, there is no repercussion. Along with being null and void after a while, since have a statue of limitation.
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I came though HH this morning heading north and having just passed the 1st set of traffic lights I heard a siren and looking in my rear view mirror saw an ambulance coming directly behind me. At this staff the traffic was all but stationary so I indicated to move left and surprisingly so did all the other vehicles, so in less than a minute the ambulance was on its way and made it all the way to the 2nd set of lights and onwards - just goes to show that at least some drivers (most of them I could see were Thai) are becoming more considerate.


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Govt to adopt 'tough' points-based driving penalties

Thailand's new traffic laws will be based on the more stringent Japanese model, according to the Ministry of Transport.

The ministry has been working with Japanese Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism (MLIT), according to Chirute Visalachitra, the ministry's deputy permanent secretary.

MLIT has shared knowledge about its success in using a licence point-deduction system to improve discipline among Japanese drivers, said Mr Chirute.

The system will be incorporated into the new land transport bill, which merges the 1979 Automobile Act with the 1979 Land Transport Act, and is currently entering the final stages of drafting, he said.

Mr Chirute did not spell out when the system will come into force as it requires the databases of a number of related agencies to be linked.

"The Japanese traffic point-deducting system comes with very tough penalties and is focused mainly on protecting the safety of pedestrians," said an official source familiar with the drafting of this law.

In the draft bill, failing to stop at traffic lights would mean two points being deducted and a fine of between 1,800 baht and 3,200 baht.

Failure to stop or slow down to allow pedestrians to use to a crossing point will be fined up to 4,000 baht.

Licences will be suspended for up to 180 days if more than six points are deducted in any three-year period.

Drink-driving carries a potential 35-point penalty, a maximum jail term of five years and/or a fine of up to 300,000 baht, as well as a five-year driving licence suspension.

Passengers and owners (if not the driver) cars involved in cases of drink-driving charge will also bear legal responsibility.


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This is their third attempt at a points system and has the potential success of the first two!!

Points isn't going to do it. Try enforcement and heavy fines before getting into a system that nobody can understand.
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buksida wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 8:01 am Govt to adopt 'tough' points-based driving penalties

Failure to stop or slow down to allow pedestrians to use to a crossing point will be fined up to 4,000 baht.
That will see quite a few pedestrians mowed down by motorcyclists then.
buksida wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 8:01 am Govt to adopt 'tough' points-based driving penalties

Passengers and owners (if not the driver) cars involved in cases of drink-driving charge will also bear legal responsibility.
FFS, that basically negates the use of public transport in this country. I was at a football match back in April. Sat in front of me were the drivers of both the supporters bus and the team bus. Both drivers drank 5 (24 fl oz) pints during the game. I've no idea what they drank before the match.

Thankfully, I was not travelling on either bus that day. Will passengers be given the option of breathalysing drivers before deciding to travel?
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