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Hmmmm..... I've just Googled the image, and that's my theory out of the wsindow. Crazy thing is, I've probably passed that clock dozens if times, and never noticed :oops: :laugh:

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Nereus wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:58 am It is British Railway Time.
You’re either very knowledgeable or like me, looked it up!!

The clock is situated on the Corn Exchange Building in Bristol - more here,
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/cor ... time-clock
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Dannie Boy wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:55 am
Nereus wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:58 am It is British Railway Time.
You’re either very knowledgeable or like me, looked it up!!

The clock is situated on the Corn Exchange Building in Bristol - more here,
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/cor ... time-clock
No reason to look it up! Strange as it may seem to some, I had to study time when I did navigation! :neener:
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Nereus wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:58 am It is British Railway Time.
dtaai-maai wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:46 am Well I'm guessing here, but is this before Greenwich Mean Time, when the time was slightly different from one part of the country to another? So perhaps, local time in bold pink, with London time in pale?
Well that challenge didn't last long then!! :roll: :D

I was watching a truly interesting documentary last night "10 Ways The Victorians Changed Britain" and this was one of the topics covered (obviously part and parcel of the effect of the "Railway Revolution" in Britain).

"Until the latter part of the 18th century, time was normally determined in each town by a local sundial. Solar time is calculated with reference to the relative position of the sun. This provided only an approximation as to time due to variations in orbits and had become unsuitable for day-to-day purposes. It was replaced by local mean time, which eliminated the variation due to seasonal differences and anomalies. It also took account of the longitude of a location and enabled a precise time to be applied.

Such new-found precision did not overcome a different problem: the differences between the local times of neighbouring towns. In Britain, local time differed by up to 20 minutes from that of London. For example, Oxford Time was 5 minutes behind Greenwich Time, Leeds Time 6 minutes behind, Carnforth 11 minutes behind, and Barrow almost 13 minutes behind.[6] In India and North America, these differences could be 60 minutes or more. Almanacs containing tables were published and instructions attached to sundials to enable the differences between local times to be computed.[7]

Before the arrival of the railways, journeys between the larger cities and towns could take many hours or days, and these differences could be dealt with by adjusting the hands of a watch periodically en route. In Britain, the coaching companies published schedules providing details of the corrections required. However, this variation in local times was large enough to present problems for the railway schedules. For instance, Leeds time was six minutes behind London, whilst Bristol was ten minutes behind; sunrise for towns to the east, such as Norwich, occurred several minutes ahead of London. It soon became apparent that even such small discrepancies in times caused confusion, disruption, or even accidents."


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Nereus wrote:
Dannie Boy wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:55 am
Nereus wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:58 am It is British Railway Time.
You’re either very knowledgeable or like me, looked it up!!

The clock is situated on the Corn Exchange Building in Bristol - more here,
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/cor ... time-clock
No reason to look it up! Strange as it may seem to some, I had to study time when I did navigation! :neener:
But it ended back in 1852 - I didn’t realise you were that old Image


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Dannie Boy wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:00 pm
Nereus wrote:
Dannie Boy wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:55 am

You’re either very knowledgeable or like me, looked it up!!

The clock is situated on the Corn Exchange Building in Bristol - more here,
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/cor ... time-clock
No reason to look it up! Strange as it may seem to some, I had to study time when I did navigation! :neener:
But it ended back in 1852 - I didn’t realise you were that old Image


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Dannie Boy wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:00 pm But it ended back in 1852 - I didn’t realise you were that old Image
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And in furture a bit more respect, thank you:
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The Battle of Hastings in 1066 was the start of the Norman Conquest, but there was another Conquest a little over 200 years later, involving a king who was a big lad by all accounts.

Can you tell me which country was conquered and who conquered it?
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I have just been reading about the old kings of England, so at the risk of being accused of looking it up:

Edward 111, the conquest being Scootland in 1296.
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Nereus, In1296 Old Longshanks was just King Edward but at 1.88 M tall would have made a great goalie. Pity about his son Edward 11.
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It was indeed Edward I, aka Longshanks, but it had nothing to do with Scotland. It was a little earlier than 1296.
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Jimbob wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 5:16 pm Nereus, In1296 Old Longshanks was just King Edward but at 1.88 M tall would have made a great goalie. Pity about his son Edward 11.
Most of them seem to have been a sorry bunch of tyrants!
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Well I'm pretty sure my old mucker pharvey knows the answer to this one, but he's probably lying low and plotting revenge... :laugh:
It was Wales! :duck:
The conquest of Wales by Edward I took place between 1277 and 1283. It is sometimes referred to as the Edwardian Conquest of Wales, to distinguish it from the earlier (but partial) Norman conquest of Wales. In two campaigns, in 1277 and 1282–83, respectively, Edward I of England first greatly reduced the territory of Llywelyn ap Gruffudd ("Llywelyn the Last"), and then completely overran it, as well as the other remaining Welsh principalities.
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It's ironic! I rarely watch movies on cable tv, but just happened to check tonight and Braveheart was being screened! However, it may have been fake, because there was no sign of the Falkirk wheel! :shock:
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