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Re: 'Thais-only' policy is racism, pure and simple

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:56 pm
by buksida

Re: 'Thais-only' policy is racism, pure and simple

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:28 pm
by Big Boy
The reason given for making the Midnight Marathon in Bangkok is the biggest load of tosh I've seen yet.
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A step to ensure people with travel history do not mix with the ones who did not travel.
Excuse me Thailand, how many foreigners have been allowed to enter Thailand since Covid restrictions? How many Thais have been repatriated since Covid restrictions? Only today there were another 15 Thais repatriated who have tested positive for Covid. On the face of it, the reason sounds good, but analyse what they say -pure racism.

If travel is such an issue, will Thais have their passports checked?

Re: 'Thais-only' policy is racism, pure and simple

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:30 pm
by Lost
Stepping back to the racist Thai policies for a minute.

If today's definition of the term 'racist' can be taken seriously, then Thais are inherently racist in every form. We all know that.

But I think there's a blurred line between nationalism and racism that's formed. A country has the right to keep their culture theirs and theirs alone. And take specific measures to keep such protocol.

Thais aren't racist. They don't go about their day to day hating foreigners. They are nationalistic though. Oh boy are they! And they will keep Thailand, its lands and its culture their own.

I kinda wish we had such pride of our country in the UK. WelI, I suppose we'll always have the far right to keep our flag flying high? Ooof.

Re: 'Thais-only' policy is racism, pure and simple

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:39 pm
by Bamboo Grove
Lost wrote:
A country has the right to keep their culture theirs and theirs alone.
How do you define any given country's culture?

Re: 'Thais-only' policy is racism, pure and simple

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:03 pm
by Lost
Bamboo Grove wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:39 pm Lost wrote:
A country has the right to keep their culture theirs and theirs alone.
How do you define any given country's culture?
I really couldn't say. Just a culture that has been ongoing for hundreds of years in Thailand's case.

Were Thailand to let up the borders and land buying like the UK - - it'd be Spain 2.0 in a week.

Re: 'Thais-only' policy is racism, pure and simple

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:09 pm
by Bamboo Grove
I really couldn't say. Just a culture that has been ongoing for hundreds of years in Thailand's case.
As with any other country in the world, Thailand is a mix of different cultures. It has absorbed things from Khmer, Burmese, Indian, Chinese and other cultures. Not to mention that Laotian, Lanna, Mon and other cultures have also strongly influenced what is now Thailand and how its people behave and what they consider as Thai culture. IMHO, there is no such thing as culture that belongs to only to defined borders of any given country.

Re: 'Thais-only' policy is racism, pure and simple

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:14 pm
by Lost
Bamboo Grove wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:09 pm
I really couldn't say. Just a culture that has been ongoing for hundreds of years in Thailand's case.
As with any other country in the world, Thailand is a mix of different cultures. It has absorbed things from Khmer, Burmese, Indian, Chinese and other cultures. Not to mention that Laotian, Lanna, Mon and other cultures have also strongly influenced what is now Thailand and how its people behave and what they consider as Thai culture. IMHO, there is no such thing as culture that belongs to only to defined borders of any given country.
Blah blah blah got bored pretty quick. We're talking about real world stuff. The present.

Were talking about positive change.

Re: 'Thais-only' policy is racism, pure and simple

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:22 pm
by Bamboo Grove
We're talking about real world stuff. The present.
Sorry, I lost you there (pun intended). If you don't know history, you can't understand present.

Re: 'Thais-only' policy is racism, pure and simple

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:08 pm
by dtaai-maai
Lost wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:14 pm
Bamboo Grove wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:09 pm
I really couldn't say. Just a culture that has been ongoing for hundreds of years in Thailand's case.
As with any other country in the world, Thailand is a mix of different cultures. It has absorbed things from Khmer, Burmese, Indian, Chinese and other cultures. Not to mention that Laotian, Lanna, Mon and other cultures have also strongly influenced what is now Thailand and how its people behave and what they consider as Thai culture. IMHO, there is no such thing as culture that belongs to only to defined borders of any given country.
Blah blah blah got bored pretty quick. We're talking about real world stuff. The present.

Were talking about positive change.
Not much point in giving an intelligent, considered response to a Lost post apparently, as he "gets bored pretty quick"... :roll:

Re: 'Thais-only' policy is racism, pure and simple

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:37 am
by buksida
Here is the article on it: https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/expats/ ... foreigners

Pure racism plain and simple and anyone trying to justify it on cultural grounds has head squarely up rectum. WTF has a marathon got to do with culture?

Sadly, becuase the junta and its massively misinformed ministers are sanctioning these practices, they're only going to get more numerous. Welcome to Thailand's 'new normal'

As was quoted by the outlet;
Anyone who has lived in Thailand for any length of time should not be surprised by the institutionalised xenophobia. It’s not the fault of the average Thai, just the idiocy from above.

Re: 'Thais-only' policy is racism, pure and simple

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:37 am
by Big Boy
I see they've done a complete 180 degree turn - Farangs can run.

Re: 'Thais-only' policy is racism, pure and simple

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:22 am
by PeteC
A Chiang Mai marathon org has just gone and done the exact same thing! :banghead: https://bangkokherald.com/sports/chiang ... acks-down/

There's more to this IMO than what meets the eye. Foreigners (especially African runners) usually win these things and perhaps a push that just for once, a Thai will win?

Re: 'Thais-only' policy is racism, pure and simple

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:55 pm
by Big Boy
PeteC wrote: Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:22 am A Chiang Mai marathon org has just gone and done the exact same thing! :banghead: https://bangkokherald.com/sports/chiang ... acks-down/

There's more to this IMO than what meets the eye. Foreigners (especially African runners) usually win these things and perhaps a push that just for once, a Thai will win?
This is now being declared as Fake News. The announcement was apparently on the organiser's own web page, so the originator should be easy enough to track down. Or is the Fake News Fake? It is becoming impossible to believe anything at the moment.
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[Edit] I've copied the organiser's web page in case it changes (how does this accidentally say 'No Farangs'?)
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www.chiangmaimarathon.com/

[Edit2] From reading the page, and then copying it a couple of minutes later they've added a line saying applications will be accepted.

Re: 'Thais-only' policy is racism, pure and simple

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:01 pm
by PeteC
^ New article confirming just today. I have no idea what the truth is.

https://bangkokherald.com/sports/chiang ... criticism/

Re: 'Thais-only' policy is racism, pure and simple

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:20 pm
by HHTel
Although he's not in government, like many who are (Health Minister), he's not fit for the job.
Stupidity runs amok in the decision makers here.