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Re: Bars closed/Now reopening?

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:30 pm
by Big Boy
This is an 'I honestly don't know' question. I know the boundaries for the Blue Zone were strange, but as you live in the dry lands, SHA certificate or not, is your local within the zone?

Does anybody have a Blue Zone boundary map?

[Edit] Does anybody care?:laugh:

Re: Bars closed/Now reopening?

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:39 pm
by HHTel
As the blue zone is Hua Hin, which includes Nongkae, it's limited by the Hua Hin boundary which is flaky to say the least:

Hua Hin District is bordered by:

North: Cha-am District, Phetchaburi Province.
East: Gulf of Thailand
West: Myanmar (Burma)
South: Pran Buri District, Prachuap Khiri Khan Province.

Re: Bars closed/Now reopening?

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:47 pm
by pitsch
If Hua Hin includes Nongkae, why Nongkae is mentioned seperately as Blue Zone?

Re: Bars closed/Now reopening?

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:57 pm
by HHTel
I've no idea why it's mentioned seperately.
Hua Hin : consisting of sub-districts Hua Hin and Nong Kae.

Re: Bars closed/Now reopening?

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:57 pm
by Big Boy
HHTel wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:39 pm As the blue zone is Hua Hin, which includes Nongkae, it's limited by the Hua Hin boundary which is flaky to say the least:

Hua Hin District is bordered by:

North: Cha-am District, Phetchaburi Province.
East: Gulf of Thailand
West: Myanmar (Burma)
South: Pran Buri District, Prachuap Khiri Khan Province.
An early Blue Zone map that I saw seemed to go as far West as about the Elephant Village, and became very narrow going South from the flyover.

As I said, nobody will really take notice of it, but I do like to know these things. I will never deliberately break the law here, not that anywhere sells Guinness in the areas I'm querying :laugh:

Re: Bars closed/Now reopening?

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:11 pm
by HHTel
Now let's be confusing. Just as Prachuab Khirikhan has a town called the same, there exists Hua Hin District which includes the town of Hua Hin and Nongkae. So when they talk of the 'blue' zone being Hua Hin and Nongkae, I guess they're talking of the towns rather than the district.

Hua Hin District goes as far as the Pa-la-u waterfall so I guess it's still HH District up to the Myanmar border.

I've just learned!

Re: Bars closed/Now reopening?

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:25 pm
by Big Boy
Yes, but in the early days of Blue Zone, there was a map.

Re: Bars closed/Now reopening?

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:03 pm
by HHTel
TIT. You didn't expect simple did you.

As it's stated Hua Hin and Nongkae, I'm guessing they mean the sub-districts of HH District, which is what they are. If they hadn't included Nongkae, then Kao Takiab would be outside as would my area Soi 112. Both being part of Nonkae.

PKK is divided into 8 districts. The borders I stated earlier are for the district. South of us is Pranburi District.

It would be interesting to see the 'blue' zone map you refer to. I missed that.

Re: Bars closed/Now reopening?

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:59 pm
by huahinjim
HHTel et al—

This shows boundaries of alcohol sales in restaurants in Hua Hin
https://royalcoastreview.com/2021/12/se ... -for-some/
Hope that works

Re: Bars closed/Now reopening?

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:20 pm
by hhinner
Basically the blue zone is the municipality (meuang) of Hua Hin. This consists of 2 sub-districts (tambons), namely Tambon Hua Hin and Tambon Nong Kae. The blue zone excludes all other tambons in Hua Hin district (ampheu). So, for example, not Thap Tai or Hin Lek Fai.

Re: Bars closed/Now reopening?

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:11 pm
by HHTel
Thanks for the above and yes that map makes sense from what I've learned. Initially I hadn't differentiated between Hua Hin (District) and the subdistrict Hua Hin.

As Manuel would say "I learn Mr. Fawlty. I learn!"

Thailand must be on it's own when they name the biggest city in a county (province) with the same name. The same principle with districts.

Imagine that in the UK. "I come from Yorkshire" - "Is that the city or the county?"
There'd be total confusion.

Re: Bars closed/Now reopening?

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:56 pm
by hhinner
^^ The difference is that in Thai the name will usually be preceded by Tambon/Meuang/Ampheu/Changwat as appropriate. Additionally when the Changwat is already known the main district may be referred to as ampheu meuang.

cf Shire of York, City of York.

Re: Bars closed/Now reopening?

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:29 pm
by HHTel
cf Shire of York, City of York.
Hadn't really thought about that. That does work with some but by no means all:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_town

Re: Bars closed/Now reopening?

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:32 pm
by Big Boy
huahinjim wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:59 pm HHTel et al—

This shows boundaries of alcohol sales in restaurants in Hua Hin
https://royalcoastreview.com/2021/12/se ... -for-some/
Hope that works
Thank you, yes, that's the map I remember. So back to my original question HHTel, living in the dry lands, is your local in or out of the Blue Zone? I'm not trying cast aspersions, purely out of interest. LOL, my son drinks in enough 'illegal' drinking dens.

Re: Bars closed/Now reopening?

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:36 pm
by HHTel
Haha. Yeh I checked the map and my local is in the 'blue' zone. Caller, I'm afraid, isn't. Not that there's any bars in his locale.

But I hope being in the 'blue' zone does not affect my 'dry' status too much. I'm back to turning on the sprinklers again!