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Snakes in the house and garden

Post by hhfarang » Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:55 am

As we have a large plot of land we see the occasional snake (about once a month), but lately there have been many more. The dogs have killed four in the last month including a 2 meter one in the driveway yesterday afternoon, a 1 meter one on the lawn earlier this morning and the missus just saw a 2 meter+ cobra traversing the back yard (gone before I could get out there).

What's the deal. Do they travel around looking for water during the dry season?

I watched the two dogs flush the smaller one out of a hedge row this morning with really good teamwork (one dog on each side of the bushes) and then dispatch him expertly without getting bitten even though he was trying hard. These soi dogs are amazing!

Here's a photo of the big one yesterday next to a standard meter and a half long mop handle. This was only part of the snake as I found six or seven smaller parts scattered around the driveway including the head (2nd photo) that would have made him about 2 meters total. The dogs really did a number on him.
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Re: Snake season?

Post by Nereus » Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:37 am

Snakes as a species hibernate during winter, or the colder part of the year. I do not know how this affects Thai snakes, but "cold" is relative I suppose.
It is possible that as the weather starts to warm up they are on the move looking for both food and water.

I had one in Soi 6 last week. After I dispatched it I believe that it was a harmless "snail" snake. However, it was on my turf uninvited, and suffered the consequences.

You sure seem to get more than your fair share of them,hhf. :cheers:
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Re: Snake season?

Post by hhfarang » Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:01 pm

You sure seem to get more than your fair share of them,hhf.
I think they enjoy our garden...
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...until they run into the dogs... :twisted:
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Re: Snake season?

Post by Piesat42 » Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:45 pm

Love that garden!
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Re: Snake season?

Post by HAPPYGOLFER » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:08 pm

Really nice garden and I,m impressed of your dogs,

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Snakes in the garden

Post by StevePIraq » Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:27 pm

Anyone have any advice for keeping snakes out of garden, I know it will be pretty difficult especially with all the rain of late and with the frog population booming.

We don't have dogs which I understand would help,

We have had four snakes in the last few days.
1. Common green tree snake, no photo
2. Long brown one seen in Papaya tree wife said over one meter long jumped from tree over wall when she was getting papaya.
3. Brown one about one meter see photo 3
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4. Black one around one meter just killed frog and when I walked close it pulled its head up and neck went wide see photo 2
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I have been using this web site to try to identify the snakes but not much luck.
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Post by Big Boy » Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:34 pm

Snake threads come up on here from time to time. Put snake into the search engine, and you'll find plenty of information amongst the irrelevant stuff.
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Re: Snakes in the garden

Post by Dannie Boy » Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:01 pm

StevePIraq wrote:Anyone have any advice for keeping snakes out of garden, I know it will be pretty difficult especially with all the rain of late and with the frog population booming.

We don't have dogs which I understand would help,

We have had four snakes in the last few days.
1. Common green tree snake, no photo
2. Long brown one seen in Papaya tree wife said over one meter long jumped from tree over wall when she was getting papaya.
3. Brown one about one meter see photo 3
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4. Black one around one meter just killed frog and when I walked close it pulled its head up and neck went wide see photo 2
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I have been using this web site to try to identify the snakes but not much luck.
http://www.siam-info.de/english/snakes_poisonous.html
If you send an email to this person, he will almost certainly be able to get back to you with the identity of the snake - info@thailandsnakes.com

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Re: Snakes in the garden

Post by StevePIraq » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:37 pm

Just had a reply from the experts and it seems the following:

Brown snake in photo 3 is a Kukri snake which is relatively harmless.

Black snake in photo 2 is either a Monocled or spitting Cobra both extremely dangerous. Spitting Cobra can spit venom accurately up to 3m.
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Re: Snakes in the garden

Post by sandman67 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:10 pm

I dont think dogs or cats are much use for keeping cobras at bay.

I dont know if there is a species of them here in Thailand, but when I backpacked around Sri Lanka a common "pet" kept in the south of the island was a mongoose. I actually had the luck to see a pair of them at one guesthouse take on a bloody big cobra that was sunning itself on a nearby roof and have it for lunch.

Despite living near the canal in 5 and a bit years Ive only had one smallish snake in the back garden. A dose of cold water from the hosepipe was enough to see it off.

Best advice with ALL snakes is stay back and douse em with cold water from a hose so they shag off. Don't forget that even constrictor snakes can deliver a very painful nip bite that will almost certainly, thanks to the orrible enzymes in their mucus and saw like teeth, turn infected as hell very quickly.

If you have a persistent visitor or inhabitant theres a local organization that comes round and gets them for you.... the number used to be in the free paper AWOL and on the HHAD info site.

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Re: Snakes in the garden

Post by Terry » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:59 pm

We have a variant of the mongoose at the Lodge and I've seen them go for the snakes that we used to get in the early days.

We had a member of staff who used to snare and eat them (The mongoose). When I found out about it, he was sent packing.

I disagree about the dogs Sandman - some will go for snakes

We have 9 dogs at the lodge and one of them in particular has been an excellent snake wrangler for years. She did in fact kill a cobra several years ago.

Fortunately with the dogs, the mongoose and a lot more activity, snakes are very rare nowadays at the Lodge.

I agree about the cold water though - it does work.

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Re: Snakes in the garden

Post by migrant » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:19 pm

StevePIraq wrote: Black snake in photo 2 is either a Monocled or spitting Cobra both extremely dangerous. Spitting Cobra can spit venom accurately up to 3m.
I remember HHF posting about a spitting cobra getting some poison in his dogs eyes, and missing his due to his glasses.

Dogs turned out OK but be careful!
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Re: Snakes in the garden

Post by Takiap » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:16 am

We've had several snakes come and visit, mostly Malaysian pit vipers, but also a few cobras. Our rottweiler is really an excellent snake detector. I'm not sure if she smells them or sees them, but even on the darkest of nights, she finds them and then kicks up a fuss. We had one cobra that reared up higher than her head and struck repeatedly, but thankfully our dog was quick enough to avoid being bitten.


The snake on that occasion was politely escorted off the property, but visiting vipers have not been so lucky, and neither have a few of the cobras. As much as I don't like killing snakes, I can't just let them be since we have three young kids. If it was just me here, I wouldn't care how many snakes there were because I find them quite fascinating, and besides, they keep toads and rats a bay.



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Re: Snakes in the garden

Post by PeteC » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:00 am

Egg laying/nesting season is fast approaching. The worst time for us over here is always November to January because of that. Pete :cheers:
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