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Re: Voranai another good article

Postby prcscct » Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:52 am

I can open it use my True connection, but not TOT. Pete
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Postby Dannie Boy » Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:06 am

It wouldn't open for me either, not the first one or the 2nd one just posted by BG

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Postby Nereus » Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:14 am

Bamboo Grove wrote:What a great article. I hope all of you read that as it gives an insight to the Thai culture written by someone who also understands western culture. Thanks for the link, JD.

Yes, it is a great article. However, although I agree with him that it is in-bred over centuries, it also displays what I see as pure hypocrisy, perfectly displayed where he comments on the applause he received for speaking his mind!

Bambo Grove: what does the following mean please?
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Postby buksida » Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:53 am

It is inaccessible on TOT - need to use a proxy.

Very good read.
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Postby prcscct » Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:28 pm

It's thought provoking. One that stands out for me is that unless the poo yai lose that "off with their heads" demeanor there will never be a change in behavior by those beneath them who feel inferior. Hell will freeze over a million times before that happens and they relinquish their so called power, and that's why this place will stay stuck in the mud probably forever. Pete
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Postby dtaai-maai » Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:52 pm

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Bamboo Grove wrote:Bambo Grove: what does the following mean please?
Thanks for the spursial insight, DM.


Good question - I was about to look it up myself until I remembered I am a Spurs fan!
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Re: Voranai another good article

Postby Bamboo Grove » Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:33 pm

Yes, it is a great article. However, although I agree with him that it is in-bred over centuries, it also displays what I see as pure hypocrisy, perfectly displayed where he comments on the applause he received for speaking his mind!


I'm sure you all know that what is now Thailand is made of at least three older kingdoms: Lanna of the north, Laos of the northeast and Siam covering the rest. There are also smaller parts of other kingdoms, mainly Khmer and Mon that have had great influence in the area and in the ways people of this country think even nowadays. Thus the political partitions are so huge. The article stands for the Siamese view of looking at things. Unfortunately, not that many know about the history of the area.

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Good question - I was about to look it up myself until I remembered I am a Spurs fan!


I was wrong, I thought, you had read the article. :oops:

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Postby Vital Spark » Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:33 pm

Superb article reflecting what we experience on a daily basis at work.

Couldn't read it on the Internet as we have a ToT connection, so had to read it on the mobile. Seriously thinking about ditching ToT, as they've also blocked our favourite download site for TV programmes. :cuss: I don't appreciate anyone deciding what I can access on the Internet.

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Postby LolaBeltran » Sun Nov 29, 2015 5:30 pm

Excellent article! Insightful and very entertaining especially his personal stories. I wish he were still with the Bangkok Post.

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Postby STEVE G » Sun Nov 29, 2015 5:37 pm

One point that isn't covered in that article is why some of these traditions are still around. For instance, the example of an older waiter having to crawl to serve refreshments doesn't mention the fact that prostrating was banned in Thailand by Royal decree in 1873 as at that time it was deemed to be a primitive and oppressive custom.

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Postby hhinner » Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:41 pm

^^ Then along came Sarit Thanarat, military dictator.

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Postby oakdale160 » Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:01 pm

I know a coupleof Thai guys whohave spent considerable time in the UK, Us or Aus. they are all very uncomfortable with things here, but do feel that the new generation is more flexible.
Interesting how few Thais have anything good to say about Singapore--they hate the orderliness and consistency of the place.

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Postby buksida » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:03 am

Not Voranai I know, stating the obvious I know ...

It's a mess, and it's going to get messier
The military regime claimed that it had no choice but to seize power in the May 22, 2014 coup because of growing violence following the many years of political conflict.

Among its many promises were reform and reunification. It's true we have not experienced daily bombings, street protests or blockades of state offices. But can anybody, except hard-core fans of Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha who clap their hands in delight if he scolds a reporter, say with certainty that the political divide has diminished?

For the lack of a better word, the situation has become messy. For nearly two years, the military regime has replaced the political volatility with general disarray. Nothing seems to go as planned. The first draft charter was rejected by the military regime itself. The second is awash in criticism and may be voted down in a referendum. On the religious front, the senior monk tipped to become the next supreme patriarch is embroiled in a tax evasion case concerning his vintage Mercedes-Benz as his saffron-robed supporters clashed with military men. A monk owning a collectible Mercedes? What has happened to non-attachment and the pursuit of spiritual enlightenment?

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Re: Voranai another good article

Postby oakdale160 » Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:41 pm

I think any of us farang who have been here for some time realize that things will NOT change any time soon. My own feeling that the old theory that America used for its VN experience/catastrophe, the Domino Theory, that China wold pick up countries in SE Asia one by one, may actually happen. Not colonise but so dominate ina neo-colonial way that they become vassal states--Laos will be the first, the HI-speed train the first move!

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Re: Voranai another good article

Postby Pleng » Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:15 pm

buksida wrote:Nothing seems to go as planned. The first draft charter was rejected by the military regime itself. The second is awash in criticism and may be voted down in a referendum.


Call me a cynic if you will, but it sounds to me as though that is going *exactly* according to plan.


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