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Thirteen Thai airlines blocked from flying abroad

Post by buksida » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:41 pm

Thirteen Thai airlines ordered to halt international flights for failing to meet international regulations will be reevaluated at the end of the month, the interim cabinet announced Tuesday.

Four days after the carriers had to suspend international flights for being out of compliance with the UN’s International Civil Aviation Organization’s requirements for safety and other standards, the cabinet said.

Nine major Thai airlines passed review by the UN body and the Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand, but 13 did not. Domestic flights were unaffected.

The airlines that failed to pass international safety standards include low-cost domestic carriers such as Orient Thai Airlines, Thai VietJet Air and Siam Air Transport. The rest – mostly private charter jet and cargo carriers – are Mjets, K-Mile Air, Jet Asia Airways, AC Aviation, Siam Land Flying, Asia Atlantic Airlines, VIP Jets, H.S. Aviation, Advance Aviation and Skyview Airways.

The specific issues where the airlines fell short are not disclosed until they are given a chance to rectify them.

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Re: Thirteen Thai airlines blocked from flying abroad

Post by Big Boy » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:21 am

S44 grounds 12 airlines for re-certification

Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha late Tuesday signed a Section 44 order to suspend international flights by a dozen small airlines that had not received new operator certificates from the Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand (CAAT), a spokesman said.

The measure affected 12 airlines, although together they account for just 2% of the market, and so will have little impact on the country's tourism-dependent economy.

And there is likely to be confusion. The airlines cited in the Section 44 order can still fly inside Thailand. The order bars them from any international flights

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Re: Thirteen Thai airlines blocked from flying abroad

Post by Nereus » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:34 am

This is just more of what started here:

http://www.huahinforum.com/viewtopic.ph ... es#p422338
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Re: Thirteen Thai airlines blocked from flying abroad

Post by Big Boy » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:44 am

Worrying/confusing that they are still safe to fly within Thailand though.
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Re: Thirteen Thai airlines blocked from flying abroad

Post by Nereus » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:24 am

Big Boy wrote:
Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:44 am
Worrying/confusing that they are still safe to fly within Thailand though.
As posted previously, it has nothing to do with whether or not the aircraft is "safe". It is ALL to do with the certification and compliance process of each operators AOC(Air Operators Certificate).
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Re: Thirteen Thai airlines blocked from flying abroad

Post by oakdale160 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:33 am

to be fair they knew that there were rules--nobody explained to them that the rules were ENFORCED.

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Re: Thirteen Thai airlines blocked from flying abroad

Post by Big Boy » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:52 am

Nereus wrote:
Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:24 am
Big Boy wrote:
Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:44 am
Worrying/confusing that they are still safe to fly within Thailand though.
As posted previously, it has nothing to do with whether or not the aircraft is "safe". It is ALL to do with the certification and compliance process of each operators AOC(Air Operators Certificate).
Sorry, my misunderstanding - I thought there were safety issues. :oops:

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The airlines that failed to pass international safety standards
Fake News I guess :wink:
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Re: Thirteen Thai airlines blocked from flying abroad

Post by RCer » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:05 pm

Big Boy wrote:
Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:52 am
Nereus wrote:
Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:24 am
Big Boy wrote:
Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:44 am
Worrying/confusing that they are still safe to fly within Thailand though.
As posted previously, it has nothing to do with whether or not the aircraft is "safe". It is ALL to do with the certification and compliance process of each operators AOC(Air Operators Certificate).
Sorry, my misunderstanding - I thought there were safety issues. :oops:

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The airlines that failed to pass international safety standards
Fake News I guess :wink:
Which could mean over ocean navigation systems need updates. Or the ability of the crew to speak English clearly.

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Re: Thirteen Thai airlines blocked from flying abroad

Post by StevePIraq » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:47 pm

Actually it is easy to see where Thailand fails. The following clearly shows how crap the Thai airlines are in comparison to other countries. I selected Tajikistan as a comparison where I flew with some of the worst airlines in the world and Tajikistan still surpass Thailand. If you compare with Vietnam then Thailand is even worse.

If not good enough to fly overseas they ain't good enough to fly anywhere.

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Re: Thirteen Thai airlines blocked from flying abroad

Post by Nereus » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:53 pm

For those still confused by what all this means. Note that "Air Navigation" does not refer to finding your way from one place to another! Thailand has had a Red Flag since June of 2015, they have had ample time to sort out the consequences. A big effort has been made, including the restructuring and renaming of the Thai authority.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internati ... ganization

https://www.icao.int/Pages/default.aspx

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... -b-437818/

The last link is dated 02 June 2017 and is what the upcoming inspection is about.
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