Double Pricing @ Hua Hin Golf Courses?
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When in Thailand my wife argues that I'm a BKK resident and she can usually get me in for somewhere between Falang and Thai prices.
Like others I don't like double pricing, but it's the fact.
It does make me aware over here. Disneyland, every year, has a month long sale only for Southern California residents, so we can be just as bad.
Like others I don't like double pricing, but it's the fact.
It does make me aware over here. Disneyland, every year, has a month long sale only for Southern California residents, so we can be just as bad.
Dual pricing exists everywhere .Even the night market
Hide round the corner and let the wife do the deal. Golf courses, renting, vending
Hide round the corner and let the wife do the deal. Golf courses, renting, vending
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That's for locals living in the very community. No problem with that as well.lomuamart wrote:valrhona,
Can I just pick you up an important point - for me at least.
I've played plenty of courses back home in the UK and quite often preferable treatment might be given to locals. Maybe for green fees (but not usually) tee times and general overall service.
I don't have a problem with that, but I've been local here for 11 years. Surely the price shouldn't be determined by the colour of my skin? But unfortunately it does a lot of the time as this thread is bearing out.
I hope you understand what I'm trying to get across.
But not for locals of the same ethnicity. Not every Thai playing golf in Hua Hin is a local ...
Most Thais playing golf may have anyway more money than the average tourist. It's pure racism, nothing else, and has to be boycotted.
I say: double price them as well in Europe and anywhere else. Oh, but then you'd be called a racist ...
This is often the case here, disturbingly, I'm afraid. The reality is though that it extends much further than just 'a round of golf'. I am aware that this also exists the other way round in the west but it is not to be condoned anywhere, however commonly encountered. At least it(racism) is illegal now in most civilised countries.seasides wrote:...It's pure racism, nothing else.......
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I say don't use the courses and spread the word so it hurts them all financially. It's about time organisations STOPPED abusing foreigners!seasides wrote:That's for locals living in the very community. No problem with that as well.lomuamart wrote:valrhona,
Can I just pick you up an important point - for me at least.
I've played plenty of courses back home in the UK and quite often preferable treatment might be given to locals. Maybe for green fees (but not usually) tee times and general overall service.
I don't have a problem with that, but I've been local here for 11 years. Surely the price shouldn't be determined by the colour of my skin? But unfortunately it does a lot of the time as this thread is bearing out.
I hope you understand what I'm trying to get across.
But not for locals of the same ethnicity. Not every Thai playing golf in Hua Hin is a local ...
Most Thais playing golf may have anyway more money than the average tourist. It's pure racism, nothing else, and has to be boycotted.
I say: double price them as well in Europe and anywhere else. Oh, but then you'd be called a racist ...
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It's all about money and it's not only a perception. Just by the fact that foreigners can afford a plane ticket to go to Thailand, it makes them wealthier than most thai. On top of it, if you are a foreigner and you can afford to play golf, that certainly puts you in the reasonably well off category.
As to all thais that play golf being richer than foreigners in Thailand, it's a gross exaggeration as the wealthier thais wouldn't bother too much with local courses and have their own members only club.
The way I see it is that it's a duty for the courses to promote golf amongst thai people and one of the way to do that is to make it a bit more affordable for them just as universities in most countries will ask foreigners for way more money than locals.
They don't discriminate by race, whether you're black, asian or white you pay the higher price as long as you're not thai. It's about the nationality not the race.
It's done all over the world, if you go to many developing nations such as India or Turkey, many attractions will have prices for foreigners and natives.
As I said, the west has built much of its wealth on the backs of developing nations. I see nothing wrong in having to pay a little more. If I owned a course in Thailand, I would absolutely do this..I'd rather piss off a few foreigners and gather goodwill amongst the people that allow me to operateand in the end, if you offer a good and fair product, the tourists will pay the premium as they do in other places.
As to all thais that play golf being richer than foreigners in Thailand, it's a gross exaggeration as the wealthier thais wouldn't bother too much with local courses and have their own members only club.
The way I see it is that it's a duty for the courses to promote golf amongst thai people and one of the way to do that is to make it a bit more affordable for them just as universities in most countries will ask foreigners for way more money than locals.
They don't discriminate by race, whether you're black, asian or white you pay the higher price as long as you're not thai. It's about the nationality not the race.
It's done all over the world, if you go to many developing nations such as India or Turkey, many attractions will have prices for foreigners and natives.
As I said, the west has built much of its wealth on the backs of developing nations. I see nothing wrong in having to pay a little more. If I owned a course in Thailand, I would absolutely do this..I'd rather piss off a few foreigners and gather goodwill amongst the people that allow me to operateand in the end, if you offer a good and fair product, the tourists will pay the premium as they do in other places.
Not really arguing with anyone here but a funny observation would be, can you imagine Buckingham Place being free for English people and Asians pay 20 pounds, rather in the same style as the Grand Palace in Bangkok? 
As said, it extendes a lot further than just golf. If it was an isolated case(golf related) then it could be described away as elitism, but it's not, it's so prolific/ingrained in every section of society, and almost every local tacitly approves of it, "rampant" doesn't really do it justice.
That would last about 2 seconds in the west before the instigators were in court! I don't expect Thailand to be the same, just an interesting comparision. Just because it's happening here and most of us are aware of/accept it, does that make it OK?
Maybe HHF is correct here and that it's 'richism', as he calls it, which probably really translates into financial envy. They think it's OK to over charge you if you appear to be rich but if they were in your shoes/buying something themselves then they would 'blow a fuse' about it, we all know how stingy they can be when they want. That's called hypocracy.
The reason many, not all, people(foreigners) are rich/wealthy/comfortable is exactly because they have saved money/not spent it/don't like spending it and worked very hard to get it, so have every right to be 'bitched' about some thieving 'let's try it on' attitude from someone that just wants to commit what is tantamount to robbery with a smile on their face, regardless of what shape/form/place/situation it happens to manifest itself in.
Hmmmmmmmmm.
That's why I like places like Malls/Tesco etc, everyone pays the same, that's fair.
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As said, it extendes a lot further than just golf. If it was an isolated case(golf related) then it could be described away as elitism, but it's not, it's so prolific/ingrained in every section of society, and almost every local tacitly approves of it, "rampant" doesn't really do it justice.
That would last about 2 seconds in the west before the instigators were in court! I don't expect Thailand to be the same, just an interesting comparision. Just because it's happening here and most of us are aware of/accept it, does that make it OK?
Maybe HHF is correct here and that it's 'richism', as he calls it, which probably really translates into financial envy. They think it's OK to over charge you if you appear to be rich but if they were in your shoes/buying something themselves then they would 'blow a fuse' about it, we all know how stingy they can be when they want. That's called hypocracy.
The reason many, not all, people(foreigners) are rich/wealthy/comfortable is exactly because they have saved money/not spent it/don't like spending it and worked very hard to get it, so have every right to be 'bitched' about some thieving 'let's try it on' attitude from someone that just wants to commit what is tantamount to robbery with a smile on their face, regardless of what shape/form/place/situation it happens to manifest itself in.
Hmmmmmmmmm.
That's why I like places like Malls/Tesco etc, everyone pays the same, that's fair.
Better stop my
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Hear Hear!spitfire wrote:Not really arguing with anyone here but a funny observation would be, can you imagine Buckingham Place being free for English people and Asians pay 20 pounds, rather in the same style as the Grand Palace in Bangkok?
As said, it extendes a lot further than just golf. If it was an isolated case(golf related) then it could be described away as elitism, but it's not, it's so prolific/ingrained in every section of society, and almost every local tacitly approves of it, "rampant" doesn't really do it justice.
That would last about 2 seconds in the west before the instigators were in court! I don't expect Thailand to be the same, just an interesting comparision. Just because it's happening here and most of us are aware of/accept it, does that make it OK?
Maybe HHF is correct here and that it's 'richism', as he calls it, which probably really translates into financial envy. They think it's OK to over charge you if you appear to be rich but if they were in your shoes/buying something themselves then they would 'blow a fuse' about it, we all know how stingy they can be when they want. That's called hypocracy.
The reason many, not all, people(foreigners) are rich/wealthy/comfortable is exactly because they have saved money/not spent it/don't like spending it and worked very hard to get it, so have every right to be 'bitched' about some thieving 'let's try it on' attitude from someone that just wants to commit what is tantamount to robbery with a smile on their face, regardless of what shape/form/place/situation it happens to manifest itself in.
Hmmmmmmmmm.
That's why I like places like Malls/Tesco etc, everyone pays the same, that's fair.
Better stop my
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Well how about universities that charge 2-10 times more for foreign students? That is not done in the UK?
And if you go visit the Topkapi palace or Aya Sofia or the ruins at Ephesus in Turkey, it is exactly as mentioned... It's 20 Liras for foreigners and a fraction of that for Turkish people... Because the average turk can't afford 20 Lira and most foreigners can...
And if you go visit the Topkapi palace or Aya Sofia or the ruins at Ephesus in Turkey, it is exactly as mentioned... It's 20 Liras for foreigners and a fraction of that for Turkish people... Because the average turk can't afford 20 Lira and most foreigners can...
Well, my thought on the subject is that visiting foreigners, as in tourists, usually can pay more as they have budgeted for a nice vacation in most instances. I know when I came here as a tourist, money was no object; I could always pay off the credit cards over the next six months working back home.
The problem is us expats (especially retirees) living here on fixed foreign incomes that shrink daily due to inflation and the exchange rate. If they are going to have dual pricing, I think residents (proved by yellow, blue, books or drivers license) should get the lower tier or at least there should be triple pricing with us residents getting some break and not having to pay the full farang tourist price.
This would only be good business for places like golf courses as it would encourage return business from residents.
The problem is us expats (especially retirees) living here on fixed foreign incomes that shrink daily due to inflation and the exchange rate. If they are going to have dual pricing, I think residents (proved by yellow, blue, books or drivers license) should get the lower tier or at least there should be triple pricing with us residents getting some break and not having to pay the full farang tourist price.
This would only be good business for places like golf courses as it would encourage return business from residents.
At some places in Bangkok I have successfully paid Thai (local) prices by showing my Work Permit.
Has anyone else tried this with any degree of success?
I have to state, that I don't think it is racism, exploitation yes of course, and its not confined to Thailand, it can be found in the UK too, in various forms.
Has anyone else tried this with any degree of success?
I have to state, that I don't think it is racism, exploitation yes of course, and its not confined to Thailand, it can be found in the UK too, in various forms.
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